"For all its enormous range of space, climate, and physical appearance, and for all the internal squabbles, contentions, and strivings, Texas has a tight cohesiveness perhaps stronger than any other section of America," famed author John Steinbeck wrote in his 1962 travelogue, "Travels with Charley: In Search of America."

"Rich, poor, Panhandle, Gulf, city, country, Texas is the obsession, the proper study and the passionate possession of all Texans."

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/this-day-history-dec-29-1845-texas-joins-union-28th-state-independence-mexico

Should have stayed independent.

Mistakes were made

We married an abuser..

Should have conquered more land than join.

CDUB98 said:

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Should have stayed independent.

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"This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." -Douglas Adams

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CDUB98 said:

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Should have stayed independent.

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And payed off our debt... ~1.2 million 1846 ($82,257,766.60 today). Drop in the bucket right?

To becoming part of the greatest nation in modern history.

A mixed blessing to be sure.

ShaggySLC said:

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Should have conquered more land than join.

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How did that work out in 1862?

Pour one out for the Repubic.

doubledog said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Should have stayed independent.

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And payed off our debt... ~1.2 million 1846 ($82,257,766.60 today). Drop in the bucket right?

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I didn't say it would have been easy.

CDUB98 said:

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doubledog said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Should have stayed independent.

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And payed off our debt... ~1.2 million 1846 ($82,257,766.60 today). Drop in the bucket right?

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I didn't say it would have been easy.

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It would've been tough, but we would've made it work out. Gotta give Sam Houston his props, but he was an agent of Andrew Jackson to win our independence simply to bring us into the Union.

doubledog said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Should have conquered more land than join.

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How did that work out in 1862?

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Uh, 1862 ???? It was undecided and at the end of that year the Confederacy had the upper hand militarily.

I think you meant 1865. In cases like this details matter.

ABATTBQ87 said:

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"For all its enormous range of space, climate, and physical appearance, and for all the internal squabbles, contentions, and strivings, Texas has a tight cohesiveness perhaps stronger than any other section of America," famed author John Steinbeck wrote in his 1962 travelogue, "Travels with Charley: In Search of America."

"Rich, poor, Panhandle, Gulf, city, country, Texas is the obsession, the proper study and the passionate possession of all Texans."

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/this-day-history-dec-29-1845-texas-joins-union-28th-state-independence-mexico

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The goal from independence was always to get admitted as a state. The debts and financial troubles the state had made it a fiscal necessity as well.

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doubledog said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Should have conquered more land than join.

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How did that work out in 1862?

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Uh, 1862 ???? It was undecided and at the end of that year the Confederacy had the upper hand militarily.

I think you meant 1865. In cases like this details matter.

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The Pulitzer-prize winning history book "Cry Freedom" discusses this heavily. At different points in the war, each side thought victory was imminent or defeat was inevitable. Plus, Davis had to fight tooth-and-nail to hold the South together. Lincoln had to deal with Union traitors who tried to work through Canada to undermine Union war efforts. The war was a seesaw until Grant made his way east from Vicksburg. Even then, things got a bit hairy.

What could have been....

It's been a good decision so far. Like all families, we have some issues we need to sort out.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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It's been a good decision so far. Like all families, we have some issues we need to sort out.

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Our Yankee in-laws are insufferable.

Joes said:

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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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It's been a good decision so far. Like all families, we have some issues we need to sort out.

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Our Yankee in-laws are insufferable.

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As a family member once told me, "Life would be too boring if we all agreed on everything."

aggie93 said:

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What could have been....

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I love to remind people on the western slope in CO that we used to own your mountains. I haven't been back that way in a while, but wow does their inferiority complex make them bristle when you say that.

it may have been better for the United States and for Texas

if Texas remained it's own Republic and never joined the Union.

ttu_85 said:

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doubledog said:

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ShaggySLC said:

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Should have conquered more land than join.

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How did that work out in 1862?

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Uh, 1862 ???? It was undecided and at the end of that year the Confederacy had the upper hand militarily.

I think you meant 1865. In cases like this details matter.

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The New Mexico campaign was a military operation of the trans-Mississippi theater of the American Civil War from February to April 1862 in which Confederate Brigadier General Henry Hopkins Sibley invaded the northern New Mexico Territory in an attempt to gain control of the Southwest,

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That campaign of Texans (CSA) to conquer more land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_campaign

We made a mistake.

80 years will be enough, time for a divorce

TEXIT NOW