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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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Now that's gonna leave a mark.

Yikes. That's a BIG fish.

Mark Meadows was Trump's dumbest hire. This guy could F up a cup of coffee.

Not a good day for Team Trump

Trump sits in court all day listening to Michael Cohen testify that his business empire is a facade, has a reporter tell him about Jenna Ellis’s plea deal as he’s walking out, then gets in his car to learn Mark Meadows testified against him to a grand jury on an immunity deal.

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 24, 2023

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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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Meadows is just making a deal so he doesn't get in trouble...Like everyone else in Georgia. He doesn't really believe what he's admitting to. Doesn't matter bc Trump will claim he's never met him before.

If Trump has more days like today, how long until Iowans, New Hamsters and South Carolinians start to look around at other options?

Is grand jury testimony routinely leaked like this?

Get ready, cause you know it's coming.

"Mark Meadows was a empty-skulled idiot whose political career was dead until he begged on his knees for a job. Called me up crying every night after the election telling me that I won, but now, under pressure from DERANGED TRUMP HATING RACIST Jack Smith, he's claiming he didn't believe the NOW 100% CONFIRMED EVIDENCE OF ELECTION FRAUD that is being proven more and more every day like you wouldn't believe..."

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Mark Meadows was Trump's dumbest hire. This guy could F up a cup of coffee.

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Oof, that's a really high bar to get over. I mean you are talking about a list of some truly epic fail he is competing with for that title.

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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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Loooooool! Every time something bad comes in, it's "tHaT gUy waS a moROn."

I said it before, trump is getting convicted and he very well may spend the rest of his life in prison. You screw other the intelligence community and deep state, you're gonna take it in the ass.

Perhaps the one surrounding himself with "incompetent" people is actually the one who is incompetent.

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Perhaps the one surrounding himself with "incompetent" people is actually the one who is incompetent.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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I have no idea if all these people are competent or not. But, these prosecutors appear to be demanding that they turn on Trump or they will be the ones that are going to be bankrupted and in jail. Really hard to resist the pressure that a State Prosecutor can bring to bear. Especially a politically driven unscrupulous prosecutor.

I would not be surprised if the prosecutors are not telling them word for word what to say.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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I have no idea if all these people are competent or not. But, these prosecutors appear to be demanding that they turn on Trump or they will be the ones that are going to be bankrupted and in jail. Really hard to resist the pressure that a State Prosecutor can bring to bear. Especially a politically driven unscrupulous prosecutor.

I would not be surprised if the prosecutors are not telling them word for word what to say.

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Welcome to federal prosecutions and RICO

If they take Trump down, no way they're winning the election.

Follow my reasoning here. We have known for a long time that Barr and Meadows were skeptical there was enough election fraud to effectively reverse the results overall. Smith knew that a long time too. But an immunity deal was just recenty put on the table. That means a Queen for a Day proffer from Meadows.

So whatever he provided during that was enough for Smith to make the deal for immunity. The only thing that comes to mind as what that might be is Trump admtting he knew that his election contests were bunk.

Yes, it is he said-he said situation but from a Jan 6th POV, that's not good for Trump.

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Perhaps the one surrounding himself with "incompetent" people is actually the one who is incompetent.

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It's not a matter of competency. It's one of loyalty. Trump has proven he's loyal to no one or no thing other than himself.

This even goes for his wives and family.

I don't see Meadows making up or agreeing to a lie, but yes agreeing to tell the whole truth in return for immunity.

Democrats legalized cheating. No voter ID required to vote is a prescription for voter fraud. Mailing out millions of unrequested ballots to millions of addresses is a prescription for voter fraud. Registering anybody to vote that gets a drivers license is a prescription for voter fraud. Open borders and organizing caravans of uneducated illegals to invade our country is a prescription for voter fraud. Ballot harvesting is a prescription for voter fraud. Voting going on for 2 months is a prescription for voter fraud. Supposedly shutting down vote counting in the middle of the night because fake pipes burst is a prescription for voter fraud. Blocking out the windows so nobody can see what the vote counters are doing is a prescription for voter fraud.

And the whole Jan 6 fiasco was a democrat trap executed by the FBI to entrap mom and pop and the bison head guy into the "People's House" to pretend like there was an insurrection to put MAGA voters in jail.

Everything democrats have done is to steal elections by making real American citizens voted diluted by fake votes and non US citizens. No wonder Trump thinks there was voter fraud. If Dems wanted honest elections, they wouldn't have done every single thing I just listed above.

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Mark Meadows announcing for Ron Desantis in ... 3 ... 2 ... 1

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I don't see Meadows making up or agreeing to a lie, but yes agreeing to tell the whole truth in return for immunity.

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Don't know much about immunity deals, do you?

Lynch was passing out immunity deals like skittles at Halloween for everyone in Hillary's inner circle. Telling the truth was not on the menu.

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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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These "incompetent people" are the ones that have been running the damn government for decades. How does anyone that is an outsider come in and govern? Who was he supposed to surround himself with?

NEW: “I told ABC that their story was largely inaccurate. People will have to judge for themselves the decision to run it anyway.” George Terwilliger, Mark Meadows lawyer, to CBS News, responding to new reporting “Ex-Chief of Staff granted immunity, tells special counsel he…

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) October 24, 2023

going o be honest it's embarrassing what they are doing to Trump. it's embarrassing that so called conservatives are celebrating or reveling in these shenanigans. our country is a joke and no one on any side should be applauding this type of witch hunt by our own govt. just because you like desantis or rfk jr or even biden better does not excuse the ridiculous hypocrisy being clearly shown. it is amazing how many people trump has broken. it would be hilarious if it wasn't so ****ing sad.

i will vote for either trump or desantis but at the end of the day they will destroy whomever is the quote unquote conservative candidate and if they don't he is one of them.

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NEW: “I told ABC that their story was largely inaccurate. People will have to judge for themselves the decision to run it anyway.” George Terwilliger, Mark Meadows lawyer, to CBS News, responding to new reporting “Ex-Chief of Staff granted immunity, tells special counsel he…

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) October 24, 2023

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WOW! So fake news put out there by Smith? Holy cow!

Trying to bait Trump?

I do not know Mark Meadows personally. But from what I do know, it is my opinion there is a wide gap in integrity and personal honesty between Meadows and the people in Hillary's inner circle. However, since I don't know for a fact, I could be wrong.

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I do not know Mark Meadows personally. But from what I do know, it is my opinion there is a wide gap in integrity and personal honesty between Meadows and the people in Hillary's inner circle. However, since I don't know for a fact, I could be wrong.

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Well, if Herridge is correct, it was fake news and a trap set for Trump by Smith's SCO. That really really sucks that Smith gets away with that.

Immunity from what?

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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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These "incompetent people" are the ones that have been running the damn government for decades. How does anyone that is an outsider come in and govern? Who was he supposed to surround himself with?

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Well if he doesn't have a plan for that then maybe he shouldn't have run? DeSantis has a plan. He's already identified people and has some really smart folks like Chip Roy and Thomas Massie and VDH helping him with his plan. It's a big part of the job, if you can't do it then step aside and let someone else do it who can.

It was odd to me that Trump didn't really bring folks from his business or from his network in to fill roles. He mainly just asked folks like Priebus who he should choose. Thus he ended up with all the Swamp Rats.

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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

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Nevertheless, public testimony has shown that in the weeks after the election, Meadows helped Trump vet allegations of fraud that were making their way to Trump from people like Rudy Giuliani, whom Trump put in charge of legal efforts to keep Trump in the White House.

But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.

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I don't want Trump to be convicted or go to jail but I really don't see how it doesn't end up that way. Maybe he avoids jail but he's going down for right or wrong. You can't put so many incompetent people around you without consequences.

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These "incompetent people" are the ones that have been running the damn government for decades. How does anyone that is an outsider come in and govern? Who was he supposed to surround himself with?

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Well if he doesn't have a plan for that then maybe he shouldn't have run? DeSantis has a plan. He's already identified people and has some really smart folks like Chip Roy and Thomas Massie and VDH helping him with his plan. It's a big part of the job, if you can't do it then step aside and let someone else do it who can.

It was odd to me that Trump didn't really bring folks from his business or from his network in to fill roles. He mainly just asked folks like Priebus who he should choose. Thus he ended up with all the Swamp Rats.

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Dont derail the thread. There are numerous Desantis threads you can push your candidate ad nauseum.

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Immunity from what?

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Covid.

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Immunity from what?

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Do people post these because it makes them feel smart? It's not that hard to look it up. Christ.

Being prosecuted for working for Trump