John Kelly is the latest enemy of MAGA

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Dan Scott
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He should expect a rant directed at him on Truth Social shortly. He's confirming on record the stories about Trump disrespecting the troops.

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What can I add that has not already been said?" Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. "A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.' A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France.
"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued. "A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.
"There is nothing more that can be said," Kelly concluded. "God help us."
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And Kelly's statement adds context to a story in the book "The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021," by Susan Glasser and Peter Baker, in which Trump, after a separate trip to France in 2017, tells Kelly he wants no wounded veterans in a military parade he's trying to have planned in his honor. Inspired by the Bastille Day parade, except for the section of the parade featuring wounded French veterans in wheelchairs, Trump tells Kelly, "Look, I don't want any wounded guys in the parade."
"Those are the heroes," Kelly said. "In our society, there's only one group of people who are more heroic than they are and they are buried over in Arlington."
"I don't want them," Trump said. "It doesn't look good for me."
LarryBird
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Cause he says it, its gotta be true!
ttu_85
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And Trumps drama again carries the headlines. All this useless noise keeps the important stuff out of the news, exactly as planned and hoped for.
Jeeper79
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I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.
Rapier108
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LarryBird said:

Cause he says it, its gotta be true!
But you'd believe anything Trump said no matter what.

Guess your Larry Elder sock is in banned camp right now.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
aggiejayrod
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Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.


A resident leftist believes anything bad about Trump?!? This is my shocked face. I am truly shocked.
GAC06
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It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.
Old Army Ghost
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did trump say those things?

damn!
Old Army has gone to hell.
aggiejayrod
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GAC06 said:

It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.


Trump is a scumbag, cheated on his wives, divorced multiple times, etc. but you don't think that most of the people aren't motivated by money? A lot of the people speaking out against him are selling books or trying to get on the tv pundit circuit. So I take most everything they say with a huge grain of salt
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GAC06 said:

It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.


It's Pretty much universal.
LarryBird
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aggiejayrod said:

Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.


A resident leftist believes anything bad about Trump?!? This is my shocked face. I am truly shocked.
desantis supporters and leftists are pretty much the same this point, they spew the same talking points on Trump.

its sad acutally
Jeeper79
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aggiejayrod said:

Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.


A resident leftist believes anything bad about Trump?!? This is my shocked face. I am truly shocked.
What about Trump suggests to you that this isn't something he'd do? Its totally in character for him.
Logos Stick
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This is complete horse****:

"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued"


LMAO at any "conservatives" if you believe that cockamamie bull*****


I say this as a Desantis supporter.
LarryBird
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Cnn and Jake Tapper totaly legit sources and not bias.but it bashes Trump so its ok...LMAO
TRADUCTOR
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I thought the dudes wearing lipstick were the heros in the military.
Jeeper79
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Logos Stick said:

This is complete horse****:

"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued"


LMAO at any "conservatives" if you believe that cockamamie bull*****


I say this as a Desantis supporter.
If it's Kelley's word against Trump's, I'm going with Kelley. They might both be liars for all we know, but only one has a long documented history of it.
Yesterday
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It's hard to distinguish what Kelly actually said and if he said that he is confirming he heard him say it.

I believe Trump didn't want wounded in his parade. I don't believe that Kelly, a Marine and whose sun was KIA Marine just stood idly by as Trump called WWI dead Marines "losers".

If so I would lose much respect for both men.
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LarryBird said:

Cause he says it, its gotta be true!

It's because everyone that has worked closely with him has said he's a scumbag.
But Trump said it's not true so it's got to be false!
aggie93
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Unfortunately Trump's comments about McCain make any accusation seem credible even if it's false. Gifts that keep on giving.

I don't think it's true btw but I'm not one of the votes he needs.
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Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.
I have 51 signatures that says JK is telling the truth.
Jeeper79
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Another thing to consider…

Love him or hate him, we all know how litigious Trump is. If he had a libel case, you have to expect he would have already sued.
Ags77
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It's a he said...he said deal. Personally, I would believe Kelly, based on what I know has been said in the past. But it's still up to individuals to believe whomever they choose and I certainly understand Trump supporters believing Trump.
Logos Stick
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Jeeper79 said:

Logos Stick said:

This is complete horse****:

"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued"


LMAO at any "conservatives" if you believe that cockamamie bull*****


I say this as a Desantis supporter.
If it's Kelley's word against Trump's, I'm going with Kelley. They might both be liars for all we know, but only one has a long documented history of it.


Trump's actions prove Kelly a liar.

I'm not going thru them here. Look it up.

The FBI lied about Trump. The DOJ lied about Trump. But Kelly, no way he would lie. LOL
GAC06
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LarryBird said:

aggiejayrod said:

Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.


A resident leftist believes anything bad about Trump?!? This is my shocked face. I am truly shocked.
desantis supporters and leftists are pretty much the same this point, they spew the same talking points on Trump.

its sad acutally


Supporters of the significantly more conservative candidate are leftists. I guess in the world where everyone Trump interacts with is a liar, this makes about as much sense.
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LarryBird said:

aggiejayrod said:

Jeeper79 said:

I have no reason to doubt his word. It's not like he's just making stuff up. He's simply confirming what was already reported in the news.


A resident leftist believes anything bad about Trump?!? This is my shocked face. I am truly shocked.
desantis supporters and leftists are pretty much the same this point, they spew the same talking points on Trump.

its sad acutally

Disagree. DeSantis supporters think our broken system with a near even split in polar opposite political ideologies can be saved and coexist if we give the GOP power because this time it will be different. Insanity in my opinion, but I see their point.

Trump absolutely has his blemishes but supporting DeSantis and calling out Trumps blemishes are not one in the same.
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Satellite of Love
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GAC06 said:

It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.

Now explain why the left adored him up until he paired off against Hillary?
Robert L. Peters
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Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.
Jeeper79
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Robert L. Peters said:

Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.
Uhhhhhh… What?
No Spin Ag
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Satellite of Love said:

GAC06 said:

It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.

Now explain why the left adored him up until he paired off against Hillary?


How does that make Trump any less of a "scumbag", per the previous post?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Satellite of Love said:

GAC06 said:

It's not that Trump is a scumbag, it's that pretty much everyone that's had contact with him is part of a vast conspiracy to defame him.

Now explain why the left adored him up until he paired off against Hillary?


Because he was a New York scum bag liberal.

I'm Gipper
GAC06
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Robert L. Peters said:

Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.


Trump will hand the democrats the presidency and probably the house and senate. He is the problem.
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Jeeper79 said:

Robert L. Peters said:

Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.
Uhhhhhh… What?


Do I need to spell it out for you?
Jeeper79
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Robert L. Peters said:

Jeeper79 said:

Robert L. Peters said:

Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.
Uhhhhhh… What?


Do I need to spell it out for you?
You're certainly welcome to try. This should be entertaining.
No Spin Ag
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Robert L. Peters said:

Some day, the fools on the right and the left will realize that Trump was a terrible human being but he was the last hope of the republic. He will fail and we will all be reduced to statist servitude, but he was a hope. In fact, there's no real hope for us. It's over.


He was already in office once. If the world didn't turn into a permanent maga utopia then, what makes maga believe that this time it'll be different?

Does maga honestly believe him being in office again will make the world any different than any other republican? Because he's the least conservative of the entire group that's running, and at the same time the most hated by those within his party. He's be the least effective from day one.

I get it, he sold maga on the "I'm your retribution (i.e. your savior)," image, but at best, he's just a guy who marketed himself to be more than he really is. Just like every other politician. He was never going to take the country to whatever place in time you wish it would go. At best he signs EOs, maga creams themselves "so much winning," and then the next guy comes in, undoes them, and so on and so forth.

By the way maga presents themselves on the video clips I see if them out in public, there's going to be a lot of folk being truly lost when Trump is no longer in their world. I don't know if it'll be comical or sad when that happens but I'm sure it'll be studied.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Logos Stick said:

Jeeper79 said:

Logos Stick said:

This is complete horse****:

"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued"


LMAO at any "conservatives" if you believe that cockamamie bull*****


I say this as a Desantis supporter.
If it's Kelley's word against Trump's, I'm going with Kelley. They might both be liars for all we know, but only one has a long documented history of it.


Trump's actions prove Kelly a liar.

I'm not going thru them here. Look it up.

The FBI lied about Trump. The DOJ lied about Trump. But Kelly, no way he would lie. LOL


Ah, the classic "Trust me bro" defense.

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