Owlagdad said:
eric76 said:
doubledog said:
The dirty little secret ... The Democratic party wants to keep the Black people concentrated for political purposes. If that concentration is a Ghetto... So be it.
Are you sure about that?
I have read that the they are trying to export the slums to the suburbs in many cities across the country.
That is, instead of the slums, they want to pay for homes and apartments in middle class and higher neighborhoods. The result, according to articles I've seen is to export crime into those neighborhoods. And the government pays for most of the housing in the process.
They supposedly do this under the idea that it is the slum that brings the people down, but the result of moving people out into the suburbs is to bring the suburbs down.
Is this not the case?
Nice try at satire. Difference in those who move out to get out and work at it, than those who are handed apartment keys and continue to do nothing. And you know that.
It's not satire at all. From what I've been told, they are aggressively pushing slum dwellers out into neighborhoods.
For example, from
https://prospect.org/civil-rights/moving-hood-mixed-success-integrating-suburbia/Quote:
As politicians and policy analysts revisited the thorny problems of urban poverty in recent years, they seemed to be arriving at a rare consensus: Poor people are hurt by their concentration in large, inner-city neighborhoods that further social isolation and racial segregation. In this view, it would be better to disperse poor people and minorities, putting them in closer proximity to jobs, decent suburban schools, and safe communities. This idea of helping individuals, rather than funneling aid to localities, came to be known as helping "people, not places."
In principle, this approach enjoyed bipartisan support. As an instrument of integration and community renewal, it entailed a far lower scale of "social engineering" than massive school busing or subsidized housing construction. It relied more heavily on private market forces, by inviting the poor to use housing vouchers to move to better market-rate housing, or to commute to suburban jobs. It was exactly the blend of conservative means and liberal goals that appealed to, say, a Republican like Jack Kemp or a Democrat like Bill Clinton. It seemed well suited to a moment when the goals of social policy became incremental rather than grandiose.
So they are trying to move people from the ghetto into suburban neighborhoods, not keeping them in the ghetto.
Quote:
In 1974 the federal government began shifting the emphasis away from subsidizing construction of low-income housing complexes. Instead, the government offered vouchers to allow poor people to rent apartments on the private market.
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Under the influence of sociologists William Julius Wilson of the University of Chicago and Douglas Massey of the University of Pennsylvania, HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros became an enthusiastic supporter of the strategy of breaking up inner-city high concentrations of poor minorities, to pursue racial justice, fight poverty, and improve urban life. Toward that goal, the Clinton administration has partly shifted in the direction of "people, not places." It has selectively given local housing authorities the right to tear down central city projects. It has also proposed privatizing federally subsidized housing developments and giving current residents Section 8 vouchers to help them afford apartments in the private market.
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The success of the Clinton administration's plan to help the poor move out of urban concentrations depends on overcoming suburban resistance and assuring that there is adequate affordable rental housing in the suburbs.
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Some housing and civil rights advocates argue that the federal government should work to eliminate exclusionary zoning by conditioning federal funds for localities on strategies to encourage a mix of housing. Massachusetts, California, and New Jersey have enacted laws against "snob zoning" that enable developers of low-income housing to override local zoning restrictions. The Minneapolis-St. Paul metropolitan area has gone even further. State Representative Myron Orfield, acting on behalf of the communities in the metro area, sponsored legislation to create an elected metropolitan council with the authority to establish "fair share" housing goals for each municipality. This legislation gave the council the power to withhold sewer, highway, infrastucture, and other state funds from communities that refuse to comply. Orfield's legislative package also included a tax-base sharing plan to reduce property tax disparities among municipalities in the region, so that inner- ring suburbs and the two major cities had a stake in regional cooperation plans.
This is from a 2003 article in Baltimore:
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Lawyers for Baltimore public housing residents are asking a federal judge to order the creation of 3,000 new low-income housing units and an additional 3,750 housing vouchers, mostly in well-off suburban neighborhoods with good schools and access to jobs.
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It asks the federal agency to provide tenants with 675 new "housing opportunities a year over the next decade to reduce the effects of decades of discriminatory actions."
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"Moving poverty from one jurisdiction to another simply makes no sense," Smith said in a statement.
"It has already proven to be failed public policy, and I am not sure why we would revisit that issue. Although Baltimore County is not part of this lawsuit, we will be ready to fight any program that negatively impacts families in Baltimore County."
O'Malley denounced what he called the "old bigotry that the city is by its nature a bad place."
"I think the ACLU would serve their clients and the cause of justice and fairness better if they directed their energies toward creating work force housing inside the city ... rather than pushing our people into the suburbs," O'Malley said.
You can believe that the left is trying to keep the minorities in the slums, but that simply isn't true. They very much want to move the slums into the suburbs to counter what they believe to be the evils of segregating the minorities in slums and ghettos.
Why should they want to keep them in the ghetto? Do you think that the Democrats are worrying that someone who is getting most of their housing costs being paid for by the government are suddenly going to become Republicans? By exporting the ghetto the suburbs, they will undoubtedly more those suburbs more to the left.