“Renewables” are a ten-trillion dollar scam. And they’re just getting started.“

It’s the oldest marketing scam in history - self-interest wrapped in altruism.

And $10 trillion is just the start. pic.twitter.com/W1JuGmuE2N

— Douglas Ritz (@douglasritz) September 8, 2023

Someone didn't learn from Solyndra, Minwind Energy, Renewable Energy SD, Cardinal Fastener & Specialty Co., etcetera etcetera etcetera and the beat goes on (that is the beatdown of the American worker).

Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

It doesn't put money in the right people's pockets.

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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My guess is that the real primary purpose of the climate change movement is to weaken western capitalism and thus, put an end to the 200 year run of Anglosphere hegemony.

"Green" energy also ignores how environmentally damaging that stuff is.

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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FedGov interference. As always.

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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Start with "The China Syndrome", add in Three Mile Island, and top them off with Chernobyl. There is a significant portion of the public that is terrified of nuclear power and can't be convinced it can be safe.

Honestly, I'd be concerned about a nuclear plant designed, built, and run by a people hired for DEI, rather than because they're the best. DIE would be a more appropriate acronym.

VegasAg86 said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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Start with "The China Syndrome", add in Three Mile Island, and top them off with Chernobyl. There is a significant portion of the public that is terrified of nuclear power and can't be convinced it can be safe.

Honestly, I'd be concerned about a nuclear plant designed, built, and run by a people hired for DEI, rather than because they're the best. DIE would be a more appropriate acronym.

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And unfortunately that would be the case.

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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Bc there really isn't money in it. One big capital project, and it fixes the issue? F that.

We need a solution that doesn't fix our problem. But a solution that requires an annual need of funding and capital improvements to feed money through the system.

VegasAg86 said:

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There is a significant portion of the public that is terrified of nuclear power are women and can't be convinced it can be safe.

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FIFY

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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Because scary hbo series and liberals not having the intelligence to differentiate between a flawed Soviet designed plant and current technology.

captkirk said:

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“Renewables” are a ten-trillion dollar scam. And they’re just getting started.“

It’s the oldest marketing scam in history - self-interest wrapped in altruism.

And $10 trillion is just the start. pic.twitter.com/W1JuGmuE2N

— Douglas Ritz (@douglasritz) September 8, 2023

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This smells as much of **** as the initial predictions about the Coronavirus. Completely made up abject DOG ****, to justify that we have to do this or we will all die.

50 TRILLION? Are you ****ing insane. We can put a man on Mars for that amount of money.

And this ****** cant even tell us how much of an impact we would have?

This entire thing is ****ing grift. It's very obvious at this point.

BadMoonRisin said:

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captkirk said:

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“Renewables” are a ten-trillion dollar scam. And they’re just getting started.“

It’s the oldest marketing scam in history - self-interest wrapped in altruism.

And $10 trillion is just the start. pic.twitter.com/W1JuGmuE2N

— Douglas Ritz (@douglasritz) September 8, 2023

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This smells as much of **** as the initial predictions about the Coronavirus. Completely made up abject DOG ****, to justify that we have to do this or we will all die.

50 TRILLION? Are you ****ing insane. We can put a man on Mars for that amount of money.

And this ****** cant even tell us how much of an impact we would have?

This entire thing is ****ing grift. It's very obvious at this point.

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You actually can put a cost estimate on it if you put a dollar amount the the cost per ton of CO2 removed from the atmosphere.

If I had gone to my c-suite with a similar approach and withheld information like what is in that video, I'd be walked out of the room and fired on spot. Our government leaders are clueless in what they are doing.

Regardless of the topic, that was horrendous to watch and Mr Turk needs to go back to 1st grade and start over. Nobody has time to show him where he forgot to pay attention and coach that imbecile.

Weird, our wind check keeps going up.

I don't think they are clueless about what they are doing . It''s just the best way to get control and feather their own nests simultaneously. They aren't really interested in what's best for America and Americans .

Manhattan said:

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Weird, our wind check keeps going up.

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Subsidized by the taxpayer, two teas

Na, subsidized by companies buying green energy to improve their esg score.

bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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The Union of Concerned Scientists.

They have been a huge driving force on the left against them.

Not the best link I know but the Texas Legislature has been complicit in sabotaging us with the CREZ spending to suck at the federal teat. It's treason, plain and simple, and needs to be stopped.

halfastros81 said:

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It doesn't put money in the right people's pockets.

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It's been coming out of my pocket for the one in Georgia since 2009, 6 years of delays and it should come online in early 2024.

And the delays have been caused by?

DrEvazanPhD said:

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"Green" energy also ignores how environmentally damaging that stuff is.

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Just drove to mtns through west texas seeing, three used up wind blade dump sites. Last year there was just the one on 70 south of Swee****er.

Just disgusting to see and know how horrible that fiberglass is.

Edit not sure why the city name is being censored.

Sid Farkas said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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My guess is that the real primary purpose of the climate change movement is to weaken western capitalism and thus, put an end to the 200 year run of Anglosphere hegemony.

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The Anglosphere has been steadily kicking ass for nearly 450 years, and arguably longer than that.

But your point is well taken.

halfastros81 said:

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And the delays have been caused by?

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Tower 3 actually went online a month ago, with tower 4 the early 2024.

Here's what I've found

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A new report from the US Department of Energy[4] found that the root causes of the overages at Vogtle included: incomplete design, inadequate level of detail in the integrated project schedule, inadequate quality assurance, poor risk assessment, limited design constructability, a shortage of experienced labor, and even the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Guess a bit of everything.

Because sweeT W A Ter.

Sounds like poor management . I was more expecting there were delays caused by obstructionist lawsuits I hope it goes smoothly point forward but I will say this, huge capital projects often have delays and cost overruns. That's not much comfort I'm sure.

I think you'll be happy with the reliability and safety of it in spite of the overruns. Btw, I'm not in the utility or
Nuclear business . I'm a career oil and gas guy but I'm
Pretty well convinced nuclear is the way forward versus a lot of the other so called "green"
Solutions. Oil and gas are just the bridge and I say that because they are finite resources . I suppose nuclear is too but much longer reserve lives. There may be something even better that ultimately comes along but the technology has to lead the market. The reverse doesn't work despite propaganda and misinformation from the greenies.

I also feel like the smaller modular nuc plant designs may be the way over gigantic plants. Much shorter construction time and lower overrun potential.

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halfastros81 said:

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And the delays have been caused by?

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Tower 3 actually went online a month ago, with tower 4 the early 2024.

Here's what I've found

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A new report from the US Department of Energy[4] found that the root causes of the overages at Vogtle included: incomplete design, inadequate level of detail in the integrated project schedule, inadequate quality assurance, poor risk assessment, limited design constructability, a shortage of experienced labor, and even the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Guess a bit of everything.

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Let me translate that for you: Bechtel got a hold of that sumbich and milked that mother****er dry. Cha-****ing-ching

halfastros81 said:

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Sounds like poor management . I was more expecting there were delays caused by obstructionist lawsuits I hope it goes smoothly point forward but I will say this, huge capital projects often have delays and cost overruns. That's not much comfort I'm sure.

I think you'll be happy with the reliability and safety of it in spite of the overruns. Btw, I'm not in the utility or
Nuclear business . I'm a career oil and gas guy but I'm
Pretty well convinced nuclear is the way forward versus a lot of the other so called "green"
Solutions. Oil and gas are just the bridge and I say that because they are finite resources . I suppose nuclear is too but much longer reserve lives. There may be something even better that ultimately comes along but the technology has to lead the market. The reverse doesn't work despite propaganda and misinformation from the greenies.

I also feel like the smaller modular nuc plant designs may be the way over gigantic plants. Much shorter construction time and lower overrun potential.

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Not unless it's a boondoggle, which is all green energy.

And how can you possibly think we will be happy with something and admit you have no clue what you're talking about? It's only reliable when the sun shines and the wind blows and it's not freezing outside.

I was taking about a nuclear plant, not "green"
Energy. nuc plants don't GAS about wind or sun or freezing temps. It's probably not a good idea to put them in a spot at risk from tsunamis tho.

If you read my posts you'd know that I agree with you that most of the green energy projects are indeed boondoggles that wouldn't exist without government subsidies.

halfastros81 said:

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It doesn't put money in the right people's pockets.

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Unfortunately I believe this is the correct answer.

Jock 07 said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nuclear is the clear winner both environmentally and economically.

Why it's not sought after is anyone's guess.

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Because scary hbo series and liberals not having the intelligence to differentiate between a flawed Soviet designed plant and current technology.

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Agreed. The continued development of thorium reactors (in my uneducated estimate) seems the best option long term. Also, smaller reactors with better containment closer to the users?

I thought China was or has started,up a thorium reactor?

Manhattan said:

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Weird, our wind check keeps going up.

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Agreed.

I hear your pain. But the pansy French have been doing it successfully and safely since the 1980s and now generate more than 70% of their electricity from nuclear. Now why can't we do the same thing? The answer to that question will pinpoint those intentionally sabotaging the technology.