Exercise is more effective than medicine or therapy for depression

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We reviewed 97 review papers, which involved 1,039 trials and 128,119 participants. We found doing 150 minutes each week of various types of physical activity (such as brisk walking, lifting weights and yoga) significantly reduces depression, anxiety, and psychological distress, compared to usual care (such as medications).

The largest improvements (as self-reported by the participants) were seen in people with depression, HIV, kidney disease, in pregnant and postpartum women, and in healthy individuals, though clear benefits were seen for all populations.


In an absolute shocker to no one who works out all of the time, telling someone to "just go to the gym" is literally the best advice you could ever give to them and that therapy and medicines are far less successful at actually fixing the problems.
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Get off the couch and into the sun.
Nanomachines son
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Get off the couch and into the sun.


Turns out touching grass and moving around is a good thing for you! Who knew?
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I would say "come with me to the gym" is actually slightly better than "just go to the gym".

I've used this once or twice to help a friend of two of mine off the mat. Others have helped me in this way as well.
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Lifting Weights
C@LAg
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touching (gr)ass!
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Doing your own lawn care.
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When I go for a run or to the gym, my blood pressure always goes down and consistently stays below hyper tension level
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Get off the couch and into the sun.
a lot of the transplants to Seattle really cannot handle the cloudy/dark days up here and they get SAD (seasonal affective disorder) but refuse to deal with it except turn to prescription drugs.

as stated, best thing is to get outside, even in the rain and dark, and get exercise, get some of the benefit of the exposure to limited Vit D from the light.

literal case of "get a dog" especially a hyperactive one that needs lots of exercise.

ridiculous how many excuses people will come up with.



samurai_science
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Get off the couch and into the sun.
Sounds like white supremacy!

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Big pharma says this is misinformation. Take your meds and stay inside.
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Nanomachines son said:



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We reviewed 97 review papers, which involved 1,039 trials and 128,119 participants. We found doing 150 minutes each week of various types of physical activity (such as brisk walking, lifting weights and yoga) significantly reduces depression, anxiety, and psychological distress, compared to usual care (such as medications).

The largest improvements (as self-reported by the participants) were seen in people with depression, HIV, kidney disease, in pregnant and postpartum women, and in healthy individuals, though clear benefits were seen for all populations.


In an absolute shocker to no one who works out all of the time, telling someone to "just go to the gym" is literally the best advice you could ever give to them and that therapy and medicines are far less successful at actually fixing the problems.
Keeps covid (and lots of other illness) at bay, reduces heart disease, stroke, heart attacks, Type 2 diabetes (that's the fat people kind).

But Big Pharma doesn't make any money of you exercising and no one is advertising on TV generating billions for ESPN (AND pro/college sports) so no one talks about it.

Big Pharma has done more harm to our country than Big Tobacco.
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Went to war on my pecs this morning. Started lifting again a couple weeks ago. I'm turnt up on TRT and freaking jacked to the gills. Been walking around with trousers at half bulge constantly with all this testosterone running through me.
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Max effort strangling your buddies
Desert Ag
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On second thought.
Tex117
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Wrong sub-forum.
BQ78
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Take it to the Health and Fitness Board or I'll have to start telling you about crossfit.
C@LAg
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BQ78 said:

Take it to the Health and Fitness Board or I'll have to start telling you about crossfit.
you start doing that and I will start talking about keto.
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I 100% support this message. So much of mental health could/would be helped with better diet and exercise.

That said, some of the best athletes in the world still struggle from depression, so it's not a 'one-size fits all' cure.
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Republicans should use this for a new health care initiative. Gym memberships are covered by insurance if you can maintain whatever metric of healthiness you guys want to land on.

We should be incentivizing those who cost us less money, not the ones who cost us the most.
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For someone who has gone through serious deep depression, but am now okay, I agree that exercise helps, but lets not trivialize depression. How many posting here have experienced real depression.

I come to it honestly as my dad experienced a lot of depression. much if it is genetic.
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So instead of RuPaul's Drag Race, we need kids go get out and run races.
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txaggieacct85 said:

For someone who has gone through serious deep depression, but am now okay, I agree that exercise helps, but lets not trivialize depression. How many posting here have experienced real depression.

I come to it honestly as my dad experienced a lot of depression. much if it is genetic.
i come by mine honestly as well:

watching Aggie Football.
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CanyonAg77 said:

So instead of RuPaul's Drag Race, we need kids go get out and run races.
in high heels.

to build up their calves.
Medaggie
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I work out 3 dys a week for the past 35 years, almost never missing a work out. Anyone who says they are too busy is just not trying and making excuses.

After a workout, I always feel great for the rest of the day. When you are in shape, have a good BMI, you tend to have good mental health. Obesity is a huge factor in mental health and its hard to tell if it is the chicken or the egg.

But we live in America where it is easy to blame someone else and pop a pill.

I am not talking about those with real mental illnesses.
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Got tired of making excuses and dropped $4k at Rogue on a whim one day and downloaded the Stronglifts app back in April. Still at it and have moved on to a different program now. If I spend money I'll use it.
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I have a friend who's mother is bipolar. My friend is 41 and feels like she may be heading that way (her mom's really starting showing in her 40's). My friend wants to avoid meds, and while she's never worked, naturally really thin, she read how working out is so good for the brain. So, she's been forcing herself to go and has felt an instant benefit from it. If she feels a couple bad days in a row, she goes and instant relief. Now this woman who never wanted to workout is getting up at 5am to hit the gym before work.
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Something very human and primal comes with results from exercise that cannot be replicated. Having that knowledge that you can, if you had to, run that 3-5 or 10 miles, or swim across the lake, or pick up that 80 lb bag of whatever is so empowering.
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C@LAg said:

txaggieacct85 said:

For someone who has gone through serious deep depression, but am now okay, I agree that exercise helps, but lets not trivialize depression. How many posting here have experienced real depression.

I come to it honestly as my dad experienced a lot of depression. much if it is genetic.
i come by mine honestly as well:

watching Aggie Football.
well look what ds showed up
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AgGrad99 said:

I 100% support this message. So much of mental health could/would be helped with better diet and exercise.

That said, some of the best athletes in the world still struggle from depression, so it's not a 'one-size fits all' cure.
let's not trivialize real depression. exercise helps, but isn't the cure all
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C@LAg said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Get off the couch and into the sun.
a lot of the transplants to Seattle really cannot handle the cloudy/dark days up here and they get SAD (seasonal affective disorder) but refuse to deal with it except turn to prescription drugs.

as stated, best thing is to get outside, even in the rain and dark, and get exercise, get some of the benefit of the exposure to limited Vit D from the light.

literal case of "get a dog" especially a hyperactive one that needs lots of exercise.

ridiculous how many excuses people will come up with.







There is a reason for the correlation of alcoholism and depression with northern latitudes. Sunlight is a major factor in mood.
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Medaggie said:

I work out 3 dys a week for the past 35 years, almost never missing a work out. Anyone who says they are too busy is just not trying and making excuses.

After a workout, I always feel great for the rest of the day. When you are in shape, have a good BMI, you tend to have good mental health. Obesity is a huge factor in mental health and its hard to tell if it is the chicken or the egg.

But we live in America where it is easy to blame someone else and pop a pill.

I am not talking about those with real mental illnesses.
There's also a lot of new cutting-edge research studying gut biomes and their affect on our brains and the development of our bodies and minds, immune system, etc. and its a startling discovery to see what an effect they have on pretty much everything.

The saying "You are what you eat" is more prescient than we once thought.

You can take gut bacteria from a normal BMI person and put it into an obese person and, along with a change in diet, they will start shedding weight. It is thought because the gut microbes can tell your brain what they want to eat and make them tell your brain to crave unhealthy things.

Healthy rats fed gut microbes from depressed people started to show symptoms of anxiety and depression.

Its bonkers.





Here's a great "explain it to me like Im 5" video about it.

Like most things, diet is the key.

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Medaggie said:

I work out 3 dys a week for the past 35 years, almost never missing a work out. Anyone who says they are too busy is just not trying and making excuses.

After a workout, I always feel great for the rest of the day. When you are in shape, have a good BMI, you tend to have good mental health. Obesity is a huge factor in mental health and its hard to tell if it is the chicken or the egg.

But we live in America where it is easy to blame someone else and pop a pill.

I am not talking about those with real mental illnesses.
"Obesity is a huge factor in mental health"

I've been through serious depression and I'm not obese AND a lot of people that's are friends and family that have experienced depression... none of them are obese.



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DrEvazanPhD said:

Get off the couch and into the sun.


Kids: OK!

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