Lockdown setbacks continue to college as engineering majors struggle with fractions

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Fat Black Swan
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6:29p, 9/1/23
How is this a real AP article?

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6:32p, 9/1/23
More evidence that undergrad has become the new high school, watering down all of our degrees.
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AgBQ-00
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6:33p, 9/1/23
Wait what??? College students struggling with elementary math?
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agent-maroon
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6:35p, 9/1/23
More evidence that math & science is racist!

/libtard
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Madman
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6:36p, 9/1/23
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
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Robert L. Peters
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6:37p, 9/1/23
This is the result of DEI and lockdowns. But I bet it's exaggerated for clicks. My child has a 1260 sat score and they're not sure if they can get into tamu. There are a lot of smart kids out there. And that's just Tamu.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
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gbaby23
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In reply to Madman • 6:38p, 9/1/23
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3
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The Banned
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6:40p, 9/1/23
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids
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In reply to The Banned • 6:43p, 9/1/23
The Banned said:
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids
Truth. Raised 4 kids and I don't think any of them learned math the same way as their siblings. I could barely recognize any of the math I learned when I tried to help with their homework.
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YouBet
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In reply to gbaby23 • 6:47p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3


Wait...it's not? Holy **** this changes everything.
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Madman
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In reply to gbaby23 • 6:50p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3
I still don't believe that business case has much validity to it.

McDonalds was and is the giant of fast food. The idea that A&W sales were low because of fractions is a stretch.

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In reply to agent-maroon • 6:53p, 9/1/23
agent-maroon said:
The Banned said:
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids
Truth. Raised 4 kids and I don't think any of them learned math the same way as their siblings and I could barely recognize any of the math I learned when I tried to help with their homework.


A few years ago my nephew came home with some absurd graphical problem that was supposed to be math. My Dad, who has a degree in math, worked for Air Force intelligence, and later wrote software for a living...could not figure it out.

My brother couldn't figure it out. I finally figured it out only because I had seen something similar somewhere else. I have no idea what they are learning these days but it's bull*****
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In reply to The Banned • 6:54p, 9/1/23
The Banned said:
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids


It's the calculators
That being said my daughters calculator skills are way beyond mine and she usually gets the correct answers BUT she does not really grasp something as simple as division is the same as multiplying by the inverse
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In reply to YouBet • 6:56p, 9/1/23
In all seriousness, I was often left with the impression that they were trying to hide an inability to actually calculate something behind a wall of flowery descriptive terminology. Their work never seemed to result in an actual number value or expression.
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Urban Ag
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6:58p, 9/1/23
That AP article reads like the Onion

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In reply to gbaby23 • 7:04p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3
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7:08p, 9/1/23
How bout we start teaching math instead of going on hole goal parades, you ******ed degenerates.
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In reply to gbaby23 • 7:23p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3
Simple solution: Sell a 1/5 pound burger for the same price.
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In reply to Fat Black Swan • 7:24p, 9/1/23
What I'm hearing is that I could get into Engineering now. Is that right?
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In reply to Jugstore Cowboy • 7:31p, 9/1/23
Microwave Onions said:
What I'm hearing is that I could get into Engineering now. Is that right?
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7:44p, 9/1/23
This has absolutely nothing to do with lockdowns. They're college kids. You learn those math concepts in the fourth grade.
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TA-OP
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In reply to TA-OP • 7:45p, 9/1/23
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Win At Life
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In reply to gbaby23 • 7:49p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Microwave Onions said:
What I'm hearing is that I could get into Engineering now. Is that right?
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In reply to gbaby23 • 7:54p, 9/1/23
gbaby23 said:
Madman said:
With cheese.

1/4 pounder.
Reminds me of when A&W came out with a 1/3 pound burger and the test groups wanted the 1/4 pounder because they thought it was bigger because 4>3


Why does it have to be a proper fraction?

Give me a 4/12# burger.

Or a 14/39# if proper is a requirement.
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In reply to Robert L. Peters • 7:54p, 9/1/23
Robert L. Peters said:
This is the result of DEI and lockdowns. But I bet it's exaggerated for clicks. My child has a 1260 sat score and they're not sure if they can get into tamu. There are a lot of smart kids out there. And that's just Tamu.

They? Are you not sure if your kid is male or female? Or does he/she have multiple personalities?
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WoMD
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In reply to Sq 17 • 7:57p, 9/1/23
Sq 17 said:
The Banned said:
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids


It's the calculators
That being said my daughters calculator skills are way beyond mine and she usually gets the correct answers BUT she does not really grasp something as simple as division is the same as multiplying by the inverse

That's how calculus was taught at tamu when I took it in 2000. 100% by calculator. Not a second teaching about what we are actually doing. Just plugging it in, getting the answer, and moving on. Education has become lazy well before COVID.
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8:02p, 9/1/23
Fractions and exponents?

Really?

College engineering students can't do fractions and exponents?

I don't believe that. Not one bit.
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8:06p, 9/1/23
Pandemic was 3 years ago. So such college students learned exponents and fractions as sophomores or later? Ya right.
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8:08p, 9/1/23
In 2007-08, there were non-calculator and calculator sections of an exam.

It definitely want all calculator. If a calculator is used, better to use a program to encourage coding.

As for the article, this is really bad. How can you supposedly ace hi it's physics and comp sci but suck at algebra. That doesn't compute and tells me something sketchy is going on at his HS.
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APHIS AG
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In reply to The Banned • 8:56p, 9/1/23
The Banned said:
It's not lockdowns. It's the idiotic "new math" we teach these kids
This. This is BS for "fractions and exponents" is supposedly taught in middle and high school.
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9:02p, 9/1/23
Not to worry. Equitable grading practices to the rescue, just in time!
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9:03p, 9/1/23
"Colleges are searching for solutions"

Lol, fail em.
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9:05p, 9/1/23
This is what happens your story matter way more than your scores.

College admissions is a disaster right now.
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