How is +220 not a lock? Talk me out of putting even more money on it.

He's a dumbass, but he's the incumbent while the GOP is split.

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He's a dumbass, but he's the incumbent while the GOP is split.

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He's clearly got dementia and increasingly looks like he could possibly croak at any second. Deteriorating fast. They'd be crazy to run him against anyone.

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Vepp said:

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He's a dumbass, but he's the incumbent while the GOP is split.

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He's clearly got dementia and increasingly looks like he could possibly croak at any second. Deteriorating fast. They'd be crazy to run him against anyone.

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Trump with be the republican nominee and Biden has already beat him. They know Biden won't have to campaign. He just has to not die…literally.

AgPrognosticator said:

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He just has to not die…literally.

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This is what the real bet is. Unless the GOP has figured out how to stuff the ballots with mail-ins in red counties, a pet Rock would beat Trump as long as it has a D by its name

Trump lost without voter fraud. Trump will lose again without voter fraud. America is tired of the voter fraud BS line. Look back at 2022 and learn from the last election.

JustPanda said:

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Trump lost without voter fraud.

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No he didn't

And that's why he's going to lose again. 1000% yes he did. He lost. He's a loser. He isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ like most of his followers want to believe.

He inherited his money, he hasn't been successful, but he still manipulates his base to think he's successful, a winner, and a victim.

He played stupid games on J6 and now he's winning the prizes for it. No one outside of his base thinks he won and that includes GA and AZ and other state elected Republican officials. The I won 2020 narrative is an ass beat down if that's all he has for 2024.

JustPanda said:

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Trump lost without voter fraud. Trump will lose again without voter fraud. America is tired of the voter fraud BS line. Look back at 2022 and learn from the last election.

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Just to be clear: You are saying there was no Democrat cheating whatsoever happening

I'd like you to say it out loud for the class

Anyone would beat Trump. Dylan Mulvaney would give him a run for his money because (s)he isn't Trump. My dog and cat would beat Trump because they don't have J6 baggage. How hard is it for Trumpers to see? He will not win and ANYONE ELSE would. It's almost scary the level in which R primary voters are self handicapping their own party.

I was tired of voter fraud claims after 2016. Trump didn't invent the argument.

But usually you stick with that line if it's a winner, not if its a **** show loser that results in letting several state wide offices and senate seats go in 2022 yet thinking 2024 will be different if people hear it more. It's the exact opposite, move on and talk policy not 2020. He can't though..it's ego.

JustPanda said:

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Trump lost without voter fraud. Trump will lose again without voter fraud. America is tired of the voter fraud BS line. Look back at 2022 and learn from the last election.

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2022 also heavily featured fraud.

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But usually you stick with that line if it's a winner, not if its a **** show loser that results in letting several state wide offices and senate seats go in 2022 yet thinking 2024 will be different if people hear it more. It's the exact opposite, move on and talk policy not 2020. He can't though..it's ego.

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Do you really want to talk the state of the Union during the policies of Trump's administration and the one we're enduring now? Best to continue with a complicit media in painting Trump to be a bogeyman with no redeeming qualities. I have a memory and what I remember was some really good times under Trump. Not at all the same for FJB.

I agree. Republicans have zero chance in 2024 and the fraud argument is a loser. I was just pointing out it's not a new argument.

So then 2016 when Trump won was the only time we were awash in fraud…. GOT IT. ROFL.

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But usually you stick with that line if it's a winner, not if its a **** show loser that results in letting several state wide offices and senate seats go in 2022 yet thinking 2024 will be different if people hear it more. It's the exact opposite, move on and talk policy not 2020. He can't though..it's ego.

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You're really trying to convince people that the Dems didn't cheat in 2020? They literally invented ballot box stuffing.

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Vepp said:

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He's a dumbass, but he's the incumbent while the GOP is split.

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He's clearly got dementia and increasingly looks like he could possibly croak at any second. Deteriorating fast. They'd be crazy to run him against anyone.

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None of that matters. It could be "Weekend at Bernie's" and they'd still "win" through the same manipulations machinations as they did last time.

Joe could have an approval rating of 10% nationally and he'd still "win."

This is the reality and what was unmasked in 2020 and nobody can do a thing about it. Everyone knows it.

DJT was the only president to INCREASE, by about 10,000,000, his total votes in 2020 and 'lose.'

He won the vast majority of bell weather counties and 'lost.'

He was winning at 3AM by moderate to large margins in all of the battleground states the day after the election.

The GOP picked up seats everywhere but the top of the ticket "lost." This doesn't happen.

We all saw the enormous and statistically early morning 'vote spikes' for Joe. We saw the 'counting' drag out of a month. This only happened in huge deep blue districts. We saw the monitors get kicked out. We heard testimony, under oath, of poll watchers reporting anomalies such as seeing unfolded 'mail-in ballots' which, is impossible if they were legit.

We all know that many rules were bent and twisted around ballot acceptance. Super loose chain of custody, wrong dates, dead people, out of state people being counted etc.

AND....we had the media and social media and deep state manipulation and suppression of news that exposed the Biden's incredible corruption.

^This is going to happen again and again. Every single election of consequence, we should expect the same thing to happen until its fixed.

I don't see it getting fixed...so, just prepare yourself. Its not a democracy anymore.

Dems spent a large fraction of a billion dollars getting the voting rules changed to allow as much mail in voting as possibly in key states during CoVID and then ballot harvested to an insane degree. Hence the record 81 million votes for a basement hiding semi lucid old man doing political rallies for dozen of supporters at a time…

JustPanda said:

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And that's why he's going to lose again. 1000% yes he did. He lost. He's a loser. He isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ like most of his followers want to believe.

He inherited his money, he hasn't been successful, but he still manipulates his base to think he's successful, a winner, and a victim.

He played stupid games on J6 and now he's winning the prizes for it. No one outside of his base thinks he won and that includes GA and AZ and other state elected Republican officials. The I won 2020 narrative is an ass beat down if that's all he has for 2024.

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I see your TDS coming out. I don't think he's the second coming of Jesus Christ, and he has faults. If you don't think he's a victim you're not paying attention. The Biden family is corrupt to the core, but has the MSM and the establishment protecting them. The Russia Hoax, the 51 intelligence officials saying the laptop is Russian disinformation, impeachment, and coordinated indictments that are clearly political. The list goes on, but it's clear he struck a nerve with the establishment because he's a threat to them. After all the stunts they've pulled against Trump to "get him" you think stealing the election is far fetched. God Bless your TDS.

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Dems spent a large fraction of a billion dollars getting the voting rules changed to allow as much mail in voting as possibly in key states during CoVID and then ballot harvested to an insane degree. Hence the record 81 million votes for a basement hiding semi lucid old man doing political rallies for dozen of supporters at a time…

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Definitely, but even that wasn't enough. They needed to stop the counting in the wee hours of the morning in the deepest, bluest and most corrupt districts in the key states and drag it out and 'keep counting' until they got just enough in each pocket to take over the lead.

They under-estimated how popular Trump was (and is.)

Can't help but notice that for all his claims of the most fair and transparent election ever, Panda couldn't bring himself to accept my request and say out loud that he believes there was zero Dem cheating

BG Knocc Out said:

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How is +220 not a lock? Talk me out of putting even more money on it.

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Let's get this discussion back on track. For those of us that are not gamblers, how does one go about this?

JustPanda said:

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And that's why he's going to lose again. 1000% yes he did. He lost. He's a loser. He isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ like most of his followers want to believe.

He inherited his money, he hasn't been successful, but he still manipulates his base to think he's successful, a winner, and a victim.

He played stupid games on J6 and now he's winning the prizes for it. No one outside of his base thinks he won and that includes GA and AZ and other state elected Republican officials. The I won 2020 narrative is an ass beat down if that's all he has for 2024.

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This is one of the dumbest or most dishonest things I have ever read. Yeah, he inherited millions...but he turned it into billions and grinded his ass off for decades. Most people who inherit millions don't amount to sh**.

You are owning yourself big time and revealing what an unhinged white liberal male feminist you are.

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BG Knocc Out said:

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How is +220 not a lock? Talk me out of putting even more money on it.

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Let's get this discussion back on track. For those of us that are not gamblers, how does one go about this?

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Sign up for Bovada account (or go to Vegas or Lake Charles, Louisiana if you want to do it the legal way), deposit money, win money, then cash out. Bovada may still require you to go a bitcoin wallet for the transfer out, but it was easy enough for me to figure out a few yrs ago, and I am not at all a bitcoin person or tech savvy in the slightest...it converted the money for me to cash that was transferred to my bank.

we have predetermined outcomes in our elections with mass-mailed ez fraud jokes and no audit trails or accountability, so they can run any empty suit puppet they want

OP… not sure if anyone realizes this is the line for democrat nominee.

JustPanda said:

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Trump lost without voter fraud. Trump will lose again without voter fraud. America is tired of the voter fraud BS line. Look back at 2022 and learn from the last election.

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Can you please point out where in my post I said voter fraud? Regardless of how you want to classify the mail in ballots, it's inarguable that that what's what tipped the scale. My point is that Republicans need to find a way to stuff the ballot boxes with mail-in ballots from red counties. Dems will begin screaming for voter ID the second we play the same game.

I'm not a big gambler... how does this work? What is +220? And why is -300 bad?

JustPanda said:

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So then 2016 when Trump won was the only time we were awash in fraud…. GOT IT. ROFL.

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Poster above slept through covid voting changes....poster above still asleep.

JustPanda said:

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Anyone would beat Trump. Dylan Mulvaney would give him a run for his money because (s)he isn't Trump. My dog and cat would beat Trump because they don't have J6 baggage. How hard is it for Trumpers to see? He will not win and ANYONE ELSE would. It's almost scary the level in which R primary voters are self handicapping their own party.

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That says all anyone needs to know about you and that you have an extreme case of TDS. That also means nothing you say can be taken seriously.

Is Panda the new incarnation of arctic penguin? It seems like it but I'm not sure.

JustPanda said:

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So then 2016 when Trump won was the only time we were awash in fraud…. GOT IT. ROFL.

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Are you bipolar or just can't read?

zephyr88 said:

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I'm not a big gambler... how does this work? What is +220? And why is -300 bad?

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Bet $100 to win $220. Bet $300 to win $100.

zephyr88 said:

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I'm not a big gambler... how does this work? What is +220? And why is -300 bad?

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What BTK said. The + choice is the least likely thing to happen (or the underdog in sports betting). So if you bet on this, you win more than what you bet (in this case $100 wins $220).

The - choice is the most likely to happen (or the favorite in sports betting). So you win less than what you bet (in this case, $300 wins you $100, although you do get your original $ back as well so you don't lose $200 if you win the bet!)

Despite what some are saying on this thread, Trump has nothing to do with this bet. This bet is for the democratic nominee, so if Biden wins the primary you win if you do the first bet. If ANYONE else wins the primary (or Biden drops out or...) you win the second one.