AMA: Taxpayers should pay for uterus transplants for mentally ill men

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ProgN
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12417181/American-Medical-Association-suggests-taxpayers-fund-300-000-UTERUS-transplants-help-transgender-women-pregnant.html
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The American Medical Association (AMA) has suggested that taxpayers should subsidize uterus transplants worth up to $300,000 to help transgender women get pregnant

Arguments were made to reduce the cost of the surgery in its Journal of Ethics issue in June titled Patient-Centered Transgender Surgical Care.

But the AMA has been criticized for floating the idea and has been accused of holding an 'activist position'.

It argued that trans women's inability to bear children may cause them to experience 'psychological dissonance' which undermines their health and well-being.

It comes as doctors pioneering uterus transplants believe they are on the verge of allowing transgender women to give birth to their own children.

The AMA says trans women who want to give birth can 'plausibly justify' the subsidy of uterus transplants which cost up to $300,000.


'Transwomen lack a trait (the ability to bear children) that may cause them to experience psychological dissonance in a way that undermines their health and well-being,' Timothy F. Murphy and Kelsey Mumford wrote in the Journal of Ethics.

'The lack of a uterus also closes off the prospect of gestating a child in a way that is available to women as a class.

'It follows that lack of a uterus is an obstacle to full participation in the social goods attached to women's identity.'
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Now there is a movement within the American Medical Association to say, "Let's do this in biologic men or biologic men who identify as women".

'If you remember, for decades, doctors have identified transgender people with chromosomal tests and clear-cut biologic features, but now there's a movement where some doctors and the American Medical Association is saying people should be able to pick their gender change freely as a matter of personal choice.'

He added: 'That's why you can walk into a Planned Parenthood as a child and walk out with a bottle of hormones. They believe it's the job of the medical profession to simply affirm what you want to do.'
As if the AMA didn't lose enough credibility during covid. I know there are good docs, we have several here on F16, but the AMA is *******izing your profession. Is their a competing organization that represents good doctors and not activists?

Aw, hell no! If an adult wants to mutilate themselves with their own money it's on them, but leave minors and taxpayer money alone.

Spoiler alert: You will never be a real woman because surgeons are not gods. You will be a mutilated, medicated, shell of a person. Get professional mental help, or don't, I don't care either way.
CDUB98
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The AMA can **** right off.
jrico2727
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Paging Dr. Moreau
93MarineHorn
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I had no idea this was possible. What woman is going to donate?
CDUB98
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'Transwomen lack a trait (the ability to bear children) that may cause them to experience psychological dissonance in a way that undermines their health and well-being,' Timothy F. Murphy and Kelsey Mumford wrote in the Journal of Ethics.


Because the twig and berries they were born with didn't cause them any cognitive dissonance?
Señor Chang
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$300k per transplant? And the victims in Hawaii get 700 bucks.
CDUB98
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jrico2727 said:

Paging Dr. Moreau


That dude is damned jealous these days.
Aggie12B
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Back before the world went woke, they used to put the mentally ill in institutions.
MouthBQ98
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The chances of a full term pregnancy are going to be almost zero and any kid that survives will likely be damaged badly by hormone effects, even if they could figure it out to that point.

It will cost millions per person in total treatment.
AGHouston11
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Real life Frankenstein is the next thing the medical profession will be promoting.

Disgusting to see what the medical community has become
BadMoonRisin
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Ag87H2O
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Sounds like the medical profession looking for a new way to line member's pockets. Not only the revenue from the initial procedure, but the myriad of treatments and doctor appointments afterwards to deal with all the physical and emotional problems it creates.
AggieAces06
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Even if a transplant worked, a man's body is not designed to carry a child to term. Muscles are designed differently, the hip and pelvis bones are different.

And all the hormones and drugs that would have to be taken to prevent the organ rejection would absolutely wreck a fetus.

These people are insane.
abram97
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The AMA has been mierda for decades. I think only med students are in the ranks nowadays. Not many private practice docs are in it, methinks.
dmart90
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This idea is simply ridiculous.
BadMoonRisin
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Is this the same AMA that believes in global warming climate change, even though it's completely out of the scope of their so called "expertise"?

No way you are gonna tell me there are activists in this organization.
BG Knocc Out
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I hate every single institution in this country. We are an embarrassing, pathetic, godless, degenerate shell of our former selves.

F everybody but my family, friends, and fellow like minded patriots who hate what we are becoming. If your grandma isn't on board, F her too.
Choobadooba
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The specialty medical care just to carry one of those children to term will likely cost just as much if not more.

Who knows if it's even possible? How are you going to test it?
javajaws
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93MarineHorn said:

I had no idea this was possible. What woman is going to donate?
The other confused ones that inject T and cut off their boobs?
AggieKatie2
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"The lack of a uterus also closes off the prospect of gestating a child in a way that is available to women as a class. "

Only a person who is anti-science and believes there is truly ZERO difference between men and women other than their "societal" external appearance could write this.
jja79
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Medicine's creditability rating was about 1 on a scale of 1 to 100 but this sent it to zero.
slaughtr
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ProgN said:

Transwomen lack a trait (the ability to bear children) that may cause them to experience psychological dissonance in a way that undermines their health and well-being,' Timothy F. Murphy and Kelsey Mumford wrote in the Journal of Ethics.

'The lack of a uterus also closes off the prospect of gestating a child in a way that is available to women as a class.

'It follows that lack of a uterus is an obstacle to full participation in the social goods attached to women's identity.

Let's just say, hypothetically, that this is possible and could even be routine. Let's also say. hypothetically, of course, that it's totally normal and doesn't signify any mental illness. Okay, why does the AMA think we should all be responsible for paying for it?

I mean, my lack of ability to win the lottery may cause me to experience psychological dissonance in a way that undermines my health and well being and the lack of winning the lottery is an obstacle for me to full participation is society, right? So society has an obligation to buy me lotto tickets until I win, right?
TexasAggie_97
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What the actual **** is going on with our country? Man, we really are on the backside of this grand experiment, aren't we? It seems that everything that was once right is now wrong and everything that was once wrong is now right. We have taken God out of our society and now we are a Godless society where anything goes, and nothing is seen as wrong, nor can anything be taken too far in the name of liberalism.
BaileyAg
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Every day i'm so saddened by what my country has become
sleepybeagle
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Pray for the future of America.
Only God can save us now.
A Net Full of Jello
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I have always been a big believer in organ donation. I've donated one kidney and my family knows that when I die, every part of my body is fair game to be donated. If uterus donations become a thing, I will absolutely refuse. I can't believe I am the only one who feels this way, either.
TexasAggie_97
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sleepybeagle said:

Pray for the future of America.
Only God can save us now.
Agreed but as a card-carrying Catholic that attends weekly mass I have to wonder if he would even want to at this point or if he is just laying the groundwork for Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0.
Dad-O-Lot
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Sure, and we should tell anorexics that they're fat and support them starving themselves to death.

We should tell hypochondriacs that they really are ill and keep them in the hospital paying for endless tests and useless procedures that do more harm than good.

We should tell schizophrenics that the voices are real and they should listen to them and do what they say.

We should tell paranoiacs that "they" really are out to get you and that everything they do to protect themselves is justified.

Owlagdad
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93MarineHorn said:

I had no idea this was possible. What woman is going to donate?
Doctors will get conservative women to give up theirs.
Madagascar
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10$ says they take them from female organ donors who intended them to go to other women.
milner79
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abram97 said:

The AMA has been mierda for decades. I think only med students are in the ranks nowadays. Not many private practice docs are in it, methinks.

There are some substantial Aggie ties to the AMA. I'd like to see them step up and speak out against this nonsense.
Psycho Bunny
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Legett79
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I really don't know who funds the AMA these days. I don't know any colleagues in private practice who are members. I dropped my membership in the early 90's because of their agenda. I'm guessing if you are medical school faculty you get a membership.
Fat Black Swan
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may cause them to experience psychological dissonance in a way that undermines their health and well-being


Not sure a quote has ever described Marxists so well. Everybody else must pay so they can avoid experiencing cognitive dissonance.
ramblin_ag02
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The AMA in general is a joke. I also don't know anyone that's a part of it. The only half decent part of it is their journal JAMA. Pretty sure they are heavily funded by selling drug company adds in their literature
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