"It's really hard to build. It's easy to tear down.": Another Texas Tribune Article

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ol'Porkbelly
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https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.
Deerfield
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Just win.
scd88
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That rag has an agenda and can go bankrupt. What chodes.
Bronco6G
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We will not be pursuaded by the leftist woke mind virus.
TacosaurusRex
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The Texas Tribune is trash, and should not be looked at for factual information about Texas A&M or anything else.
TAMU1990
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The faculty senate needs to move on.
Muktheduck
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1) When it comes to professors talking about social issues, there is far more monologue than dialogue; ie. students are being told what to think, not engaging in a back and forth about whether the profs opinions are valid

2) It's an institution of higher education. Shouldn't it be concerned with issues of say, scientific or mathematic relevance?

I wouldn't get too concerned about another texas tribune hit piece on A&M
ol'Porkbelly
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scd88 said:

That rag has an agenda and can go bankrupt. What chodes.


Maybe there is bias, but can you agree that a dialogue needs to happen? Do you admit there is a problem?
AgE Doc
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ol'Porkbelly said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.
Agree that it's been a rough month. Too many people easily triggered in Austin, and they are inappropriately using their influence to interject themselves in matters that Texas A&M administration and faculty can handle autonomously.

I would be just as upset if left wing snowflakes in political office were using their office to try and interject themselves into A&M matters that were reversing more conservative decisions made by school administrators.

They need to let people do their jobs and stop injecting their politics into education. Enough is enough already.
dpeterson
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Muktheduck said:

1) When it comes to professors talking about social issues, there is far more monologue than dialogue; ie. students are being told what to think, not engaging in a back and forth about whether the profs opinions are valid

2) It's an institution of higher education. Shouldn't it be concerned with issues of say, scientific or mathematic relevance?

I wouldn't get too concerned about another texas tribune hit piece on A&M
1) agree - it should be a dialogue and open discussion without consequences to the students for disagreeing with professors. The job of a professor is to teach a young person how to think for themself, not train them to think like they do.

2) disagree - current events and social issues are important parts of an education system. That said, if you fail on point #1, then you will automatically fail on pint #2.
TacosaurusRex
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ol'Porkbelly said:

scd88 said:

That rag has an agenda and can go bankrupt. What chodes.


Maybe there is bias, but can you agree that a dialogue needs to happen? Do you admit there is a problem?


Maybe. Lol

People need to quit bringing their one-sided hit pieces to this site. They are getting clicks and that is all they are after
HeyAbbott
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Never read the Texas Tribune.
scd88
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I regret posting on premium on what is clearly an F16 post. However, once bias is introduced then "journalism" takes a backseat to "witch hunt." That epitomizes this rag. They pander to the whoever is progressive/liberal. That sector of society is good about stretching truths to fit a narrative.
Ag87H2O
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TacosaurusRex said:

The Texas Tribune is trash, and should not be looked at for factual information about Texas A&M or anything else.
Just like some of the sports sites, they have figured out they can do negative pieces on A&M and get clicks. They aren't journalists, they are left leaning editorialists with an agenda.
TommyBrady
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You can't take politics out of public universities when literally alumni of schools that are in the legislature send millions of dollars for pet projects or to try to out do another public school. The legislatures ability to pick and choose what schools get what funding creates this mess. Texas has always been this way with politicians deciding what conferences schools played in to who got med schools or whatever else.

Every school in the state has these same issues the tribune just likes to go after the school that never fights back.
AgE Doc
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Ag87H2O said:

TacosaurusRex said:

The Texas Tribune is trash, and should not be looked at for factual information about Texas A&M or anything else.
Just like some of the sports sites, they have figured out they can do negative pieces on A&M and get clicks. They aren't journalists, they are left leaning editorialists with an agenda.
Agree with media seeking clicks as to what makes news and what doesn't, but I haven't seen the A&M administration (including chancellor Sharp or acting president Walsh) say that anything printed there has been untrue.

You would think that they would correct the record if so.

You obviously have to be careful and critically analyze articles when reading a wide variety of media, but I think it helps to avoid the significant dangers of an echo chamber.
210
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Seems like our university is headed in the wrong direction lately.

Saw a faculty member post this on a reddit thread:

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It's having a big impact on how faculty approach classes this semester. One colleague has already decided this year is her last, and is finding planning her classes stressful as she's fearful of getting into trouble. Another is recording every lecture as he's concerned about students accusing him of criticizing someone in administration or politics (he teaches a relevant topic). Everyone is scouting the job market. And we're in a relatively insulated and well protected corner of the university.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aggies/comments/15bczc4/getting_asked_how_it_feels_to_be_an_aggie_right/

Reddit skews much younger than TexAgs so most of the responses are the opposite of what you read here.
AG N ASIA
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ol'Porkbelly said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.
Absolutely agree with that statement. Good thing is it appears we have done so and are starting to address and correct the issues.
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ol'Porkbelly said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.
Do not care. Just be ****ing Ole Miss.
John Galt Sr
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210 said:

Seems like our university is headed in the wrong direction lately.

Saw a faculty member post this on a reddit thread:

Quote:

It's having a big impact on how faculty approach classes this semester. One colleague has already decided this year is her last, and is finding planning her classes stressful as she's fearful of getting into trouble. Another is recording every lecture as he's concerned about students accusing him of criticizing someone in administration or politics (he teaches a relevant topic). Everyone is scouting the job market. And we're in a relatively insulated and well protected corner of the university.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aggies/comments/15bczc4/getting_asked_how_it_feels_to_be_an_aggie_right/

Reddit skews much younger than TexAgs so most of the responses are the opposite of what you read here.


Are they really a faculty member or a poser with an agenda...
Chuck Gay
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ol'Porkbelly said:

"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

What was the socially relevant topic in their area of expertise that our faculty experts are not able to speak about?

The Texas Tribune article about UTMB did the same thing. Big broad allegations but neglects the specifics that are critical to support the claim.

Did I miss it in the article?
KSigAg12
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1. There is obviously a conflict when you want to keep the school from the path of woke indoctrination but also want to attract top profs, who tend to be of a certain persuasion.

2. The one thing you don't do is do business in the manner we did it in this last fiasco, which only will cause a backlash in a tit for tat.

I had several liberal teachers growing up but I never was bullied into compromising my views, but encouraged to engage in debate. I also wasn't a little ***** and could handle it and didn't complain. I would like to say you can ask that of profs and kids these days but maybe not. But encouraging objectivity is the only thing I know to do.
country
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It's funny how the faculty and Chancellor view former students as outsiders unless they need our money.
t - cam
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ol'Porkbelly said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.


Belongs on the politics board but I agree, I'd like politicians to get the hell out of both A&M and Texas. These are premier institutions that need to act like premier universities.
John Galt Sr
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country said:

It's funny how the faculty and Chancellor view former students as outsiders unless they need our money.


Lol.. this..
AeroAg2012
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ol'Porkbelly said:

scd88 said:

That rag has an agenda and can go bankrupt. What chodes.


Maybe there is bias, but can you agree that a dialogue needs to happen? Do you admit there is a problem?


Yeah, the problem is that Texas A&M has largely become like any other libtarded big state school. Sorry, it's a state institution and the people of Texas get a say. Most of us don't want Critical Theory and its philosophical descendants to be the centerpiece of every single discipline.

Most of you only care about a journalism major so we can have more sportswriters anyway.
DTP02
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What does Pravda have to say? Texas Tribune is very biased and they know they are getting a bunch of clicks for their stories. You're playing right into their hands, whether you realize it or not.
MemphisAg1
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Lol, I don't trust the faculty to speak for what's best for A&M. The majority of them are far left of center and don't fairly represent the balanced view of taxpayers in Texas or the students. They parrot one view and shut down others that don't align with it.

I'm all for more outside-in influence on A&M, where legislators and others exert their power to bring A&M back to a center position, fully embracing and respecting a range of views, from liberal to conservative. Expose students to that range and let them make well-informed choices on which direction they want to pursue.
Tom Kazansky 2012
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ol'Porkbelly said:

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/07/27/texas-tamu-faculty-disappointment/



"We find another case in which there is no longer the appearance, but actual evidence, of interference by outside political forces to erode the academic freedom of Texas A&M faculty to dialog with students on socially relevant topics in their area of expertise," senate Speaker Tracy Hammond wrote in a letter to Sharp before the meeting. "This is not only having a chilling effect on our faculty but is further damaging the national reputation of our university. And it will make it even more difficult to recruit and retain the best and brightest talent."

I hope we can look in the mirror, honestly, and see that all is not well in Aggieland.


Agreed. I hope we kick the leftist ****** bags out of our great university
Tom Kazansky 2012
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210 said:

Seems like our university is headed in the wrong direction lately.

Saw a faculty member post this on a reddit thread:

Quote:

It's having a big impact on how faculty approach classes this semester. One colleague has already decided this year is her last, and is finding planning her classes stressful as she's fearful of getting into trouble. Another is recording every lecture as he's concerned about students accusing him of criticizing someone in administration or politics (he teaches a relevant topic). Everyone is scouting the job market. And we're in a relatively insulated and well protected corner of the university.
https://www.reddit.com/r/aggies/comments/15bczc4/getting_asked_how_it_feels_to_be_an_aggie_right/

Reddit skews much younger than TexAgs so most of the responses are the opposite of what you read here.


Highway 6 runs both ways. Good riddance.
Tom Kazansky 2012
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country said:

It's funny how the faculty and Chancellor view former students as outsiders unless they need our money.
mjschiller
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texas tribune operated my satans minions. Garbage
the_wrecker
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I love how all you people graduated from A&M and then decide you're qualified to run down our faculty. A top-flight university encourages opinions across the political spectrum. You all talk about "liberal snowflakes" yet YOU are the ones who can't handle people with opinions that aren't exactly what you yourself hold. I've never been more ashamed of Texas A&M than when our own people ran a fellow Aggie out of College Station because of perceived "wokeness" when said professor was the most qualified possible person we could have hired and an Aggie to boot.
t - cam
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the_wrecker said:

I love how all you people graduated from A&M and then decide you're qualified to run down our faculty. A top-flight university encourages opinions across the political spectrum. You all talk about "liberal snowflakes" yet YOU are the ones who can't handle people with opinions that aren't exactly what you yourself hold. I've never been more ashamed of Texas A&M than when our own people ran a fellow Aggie out of College Station because of perceived "wokeness" when said professor was the most qualified possible person we could have hired and an Aggie to boot.


I'd love to give you more than one star.
shanbo88
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Texas A&M is one of the few institutions of higher learning left that retains some small semblance of conservative values and worldview. We need a journalism department that will strive to dilute the overwhelming liberal group think that is prevalent today. The staff charged with the hire went and found one of the most liberal journalism department heads around. Someone(s), with some sense, shut it down. Let's find a candidate better suited for Texas A&M and the Former Students that overwhelmingly commit their dollars to preserving our corps values.
 
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