About that geolocation and government use of it...

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aggiehawg
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A newly declassified government report confirms for the first time that U.S. intelligence and spy agencies purchase vast amounts of commercially available information on Americans, including data from connected vehicles, web browsing data, and smartphones.

By the U.S. government's own admission, the data it purchases "clearly provides intelligence value," but also "raises significant issues related to privacy and civil liberties."

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) declassified and released the January 2022-dated report on Friday, following a request by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) to disclose how the intelligence community uses commercially available data. This kind of data is generated from internet-connected devices and made available by data brokers for purchase, such as phone apps and vehicles that collect granular location data and web browsing data that tracks users as they browse the internet.
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The declassified report is the U.S. government's first public disclosure revealing the risks associated with commercially available data of Americans that can be readily purchased by anyone, including adversaries and hostile nations. The United States does not have a privacy or data protection law governing the sharing or selling of Americans' private information.

"In a way that far fewer Americans seem to understand, and even fewer of them can avoid, [commercially available information] includes information on nearly everyone that is of a type and level of sensitivity that historically could have been obtained" by other intelligence gathering capabilities, such as search warrants, wiretaps and surveillance, the report says.

In a statement following the report's publication, Wyden said: "This review shows the government's existing policies have failed to provide essential safeguards for Americans' privacy, or oversight of how agencies buy and use personal data."

"According to this report, the ODNI does not even know which federal intelligence agencies are buying Americans' personal data," Wyden added.
They don't? What about budgets? That just goes into a black hole labeled "Miscellaneous Spending"?

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Government agencies must typically secure a court-approved warrant to obtain Americans' private data directly from a phone or tech company, such as private messages. But the ODNI's report states that in the cases where Americans' information like location data is openly for sale to the general public, U.S. intelligence agencies can purchase it. (Though, this theory has yet to be scrutinized in federal court.)

Although this data is generally sold in bulk often millions of data points at a time the ODNI's report warns that commercially available data can be easily deanonymized to identify individuals, including Americans. Location data, for example, can be used to infer where people live and work, based on where their phones and vehicles are at certain times of the day.

Commercially available information can also reveal "the detailed movements and associations of individuals and groups, revealing political, religious, travel, and speech activities," the report says, such as being used to "identify every person who attended a protest or rally based on their smartphone location or ad-tracking records."
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Cue Bill Barr: It's just all Uber drivers and taxi cabs. Nothing to see here.
Tea Party
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Our government is too big.
Learn about the Texas Nationalist Movement
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TxAg82
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Tea Party said:

Our government is too big.


It certainly is. But we all click "Agree" on every single user agreement for iPhone, apps, websites, and all sorts of nonsense that say they are going to collect all our data and then sell it. And then we act surprised when someone buys it. Social media is just one big data collector for advertising...and now for big government.
aggiehawg
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TxAg82 said:

Tea Party said:

Our government is too big.


It certainly is. But we all click "Agree" on every single user agreement for iPhone, apps, websites, and all sorts of nonsense that say they are going to collect all our data and then sell it. And then we act surprised when someone buys it. Social media is just one big data collector for advertising...and now for big government.
And for True the Vote. So all of those pooh-poohing that i was impossible to buy this information and track ballot mules to ballot boxes multiple times were lying.
TAMUallen
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Our government isn't the issue here.

You'd be sickened by the amount of data and tracking that is done on you every minute of every day. Sure there's privacy regulations but truthfully if bad actors wanted to disregard them, well nobody would really know or stop it.
197361936
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Conflicting stories about bulk data collection are floating around. I remember the Obummer admin working on funding for a massive data collection center a while back...the same admin then comes out in 2014 to argue that bulk data collection by the NSA should be ended...which means it wasn't, and the story was probably gaslighting, or misdirection.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/11/19/release-obama-administration-unveils-big-data-initiative-announces-200

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html

UTAH Data Center wiki link:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center
Anyone who chooses to ride a bicycle in the street is a threat to themselves, and others. If a vehicle strikes you accidentally, YOU are at fault; and the laws of physics supercede all else when you're in the path of a 2 ton killing machine. Know your place, stay off the road.
aggiehawg
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TAMUallen said:

Our government isn't the issue here.

You'd be sickened by the amount of data and tracking that is done on you every minute of every day. Sure there's privacy regulations but truthfully if bad actors wanted to disregard them, well nobody would really know or stop it.
Disagree. Apple doesn't have the power to put me in jail for simply having an I-phone.

But the government can if I was near DC on Jan 6th. And they don't need a search warrant for that information. If they can just buy it. As they did.
TheEternalPessimist
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The US Government is the enemy of the people.
BonfireNerd04
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Geolocation tip: If you don't want the FBI to harass you, make sure that your home's longitude and latitude aren't whole numbers.
aggiehawg
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So many blind people on this board.

BUMP.
ChemEAg08
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TEXIT
bqce
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aggiehawg said:

So many blind people on this board.

BUMP.
I know you've studied and researched so much of the voting procedures, and which were ignored or blatantly disregarded. I really appreciate your knowledge on this particular subject. For most people, this would be news. For you, hence us, we already knew.
aggiehawg
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bqce said:

aggiehawg said:

So many blind people on this board.

BUMP.
I know you've studied and researched so much of the voting procedures, and which were ignored or blatantly disregarded. I really appreciate your knowledge on this particular subject. For most people, this would be news. For you, hence us, we already knew.
Thank you.

But I have not reached enough on this board, yet.
Gator92
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aggiehawg said:

So many blind people on this board.

BUMP.
Starting 30 years ago I would purchase a Dallas Mapsco, Austin Mapsco San Antonio Mapsco and Houston Key Map at least every other year till I discovered Google Maps in the 00's. I would print my own maps till I got a smartphone.

As a traveling salesman, I do frequent the same customers. But, I also frequent new ones often.

I share your concerns and have threatened to ditch the smartphone for a flip. But, then I remember.

No Google Maps...

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