...comment that it mistakenly misheard. This is insane IF true.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2023/06/12/amazon-disable-home-network-echo/

Imagine being signed up for Amazon home services and they believe that you said something mean and so they disable all of your connected devices. This can't be true, can it?

It's not true.

I hate this new world

And even if it's not true, I still hate it because it is 100 percent believable

M1Buckeye said:

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...comment that it mistakenly misheard. This is insane IF true.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2023/06/12/amazon-disable-home-network-echo/

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Wow I hope this is true. Who the hell would want this gadget recording and digitizing everything they say. Must be trusting or foolish souls

FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

ttu_85 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

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Of course it is. But, Alexa is about setting sales for Amazon through the ordering and notification.features. I don't see the point in blacklisting.

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

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At least it started a conversation

FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Yet.

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ttu_85 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

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Of course it is. But, Alexa is about setting sales for Amazon through the ordering and notification.features. I don't see the point in blacklisting.

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You think companies only care about consumer sales revenue now? Heard of Vanguard or Blackrock?

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FriscoKid said:

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ttu_85 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

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Of course it is. But, Alexa is about setting sales for Amazon through the ordering and notification.features. I don't see the point in blacklisting.

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You think companies only care about consumer sales revenue now? Heard of Vanguard or Blackrock?

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Have you seen how an MLB pitcher gets canned for supporting Christianity and disagreeing with lgbtq?!

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

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Because, I build way more complex devices and equipment than this "toy". I've got decades of EE knowledge in this field. Alexa could be a "mole", but I really doubt it.

Alexa could be listening to your conversations and storing/processing the "data" but I doubt it. Tests have been conducted on the Alexa devices and there is almost zero network traffic when the device is "idle". There isn't enough memory in the device to store audio waveforms or processing power to analyze the audio waveforms and convert them to small text files to be uploaded later.

Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

That is exactly what someone would say to make us think we are not being listened to in private.

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That is exactly what someone would say to make us think we are not being listened to in private.

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I already hacked your TA account. You really should watch your PM's dude.

Lockouts due to unapproved language. Standard item for your new EV in 2040.

FriscoKid said:

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Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

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Alexa wasn't the trigger. A delivery driver interpreted the door bell greeting as offensive and reported it. An Amazon exec then suspended the account, which in tern caused all of the smart devices to deactivate.

Delivery driver made a report with no evidence and amazon account was suspended. The person has everything on "smart" devices so when their account was suspended, they could no longer operate their home.

driver - idiot
amazon exec - idiot
home owner - idiot for having a "smart" home with echo listening to every conversation.

FriscoKid said:

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M1Buckeye said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

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Because, I build way more complex devices and equipment than this "toy". I've got decades of EE knowledge in this field. Alexa could be a "mole", but I really doubt it.

Alexa could be listening to your conversations and storing/processing the "data" but I doubt it. Tests have been conducted on the Alexa devices and there is almost zero network traffic when the device is "idle". There isn't enough memory in the device to store audio waveforms or processing power to analyze the audio waveforms and convert them to small text files to be uploaded later.

Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

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The racist phrase was overheard by a delivery driver, not the Alexa device.

Regardless, a leftist nutcase at Amazon apparently disabled a user's devices for a week based on bull****.

FriscoKid said:

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ttu_85 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Maybe but technically it would be easy to do.

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Of course it is. But, Alexa is about setting sales for Amazon through the ordering and notification.features. I don't see the point in blacklisting.

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"Black"listing!?



Wow. There went your AMZN account, David Duke.

Its 2023 and people outsourcing they racism to a robot doorbell!

What a time to be alive!

The story is not that Alexa heard something it interpreted as racist. The story is that a doorbell made an automated comment, "Excuse me, can I help you?" when an Amazon delivery driver dropped a package off. The delivery guy, with ear buds in, heard something he interpreted as racist and reported it as such. Amazon responded by locking accounts and disabling services. The only reason things got unlocked was because the homeowner had other cameras that recorded video and audio. Amazon restored his services a week later without notice, and without apology. A full week of paid services offline, because a delivery guy reported something with no proof or verification, and Amazon required video and audio to prove "innocence" in the matter, and still never apologized for the downtime. Imagine a driver having a bad day, and making a false claim because somebody irritated him a little bit. If this homeowner didn't have video and audio, he might still be locked out.

There's a lot of f***ed up stuff with this story, get the facts straight, or your points will be irrelevant. It should also serve as a warning not to depend on cloud services for your home.

FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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Neither where the rumors about the eavesdropping, until it was caught, more than once.

Only a moron would have one of these in their home

There is going to be a market for dumb stuff.

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M1Buckeye said:

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...comment that it mistakenly misheard. This is insane IF true.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2023/06/12/amazon-disable-home-network-echo/

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Wow I hope this is true. Who the hell would want this gadget recording and digitizing everything they say. Must be trusting or foolish souls

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Let me tell you about your smartphone .....

Have a cell phone? How about a personal computer?

If this story was true?

Driver: sissy soy boy
Amazon exec: pure evil
Homeowner: nothing wrong here

FriscoKid said:

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M1Buckeye said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

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Because, I build way more complex devices and equipment than this "toy". I've got decades of EE knowledge in this field. Alexa could be a "mole", but I really doubt it.

Alexa could be listening to your conversations and storing/processing the "data" but I doubt it. Tests have been conducted on the Alexa devices and there is almost zero network traffic when the device is "idle". There isn't enough memory in the device to store audio waveforms or processing power to analyze the audio waveforms and convert them to small text files to be uploaded later.

Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

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Not so fast my friend. My Google mini is associated with my account. The thing has 1GB of flash memory and 4 cores running at 1.4 Ghz.

It can easily store a few key words, for example the N word, and send a code back to the mother sight to disable my account if it hears that word.

A 3 minute mp3 audio file takes up only 5MB max. This thing has 1GB in flash and almost another GB in ram.

I get all my news from GizmoChina. And how the hell does someone call customer service and wind up talking to an "executive"?

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FriscoKid said:

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M1Buckeye said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

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Because, I build way more complex devices and equipment than this "toy". I've got decades of EE knowledge in this field. Alexa could be a "mole", but I really doubt it.

Alexa could be listening to your conversations and storing/processing the "data" but I doubt it. Tests have been conducted on the Alexa devices and there is almost zero network traffic when the device is "idle". There isn't enough memory in the device to store audio waveforms or processing power to analyze the audio waveforms and convert them to small text files to be uploaded later.

Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

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Not so fast my friend. My Google mini is associated with my account. The thing has 1GB of flash memory and 4 cores running at 1.4 Ghz.

It can easily store a few key words, for example the N word, and send a code back to the mother sight to disable my account if it hears that word.

A 3 minute mp3 audio file takes up only 5MB max. This thing has 1GB.

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That's not how this works. You're making assumptions based on HW alone.

Do you really think Google is going to purposely break their SW architecture for nefarious reasons? I don't think so, there's no motivation to do so.

I'm not making any assumptions. That's exactly how it could work.

I didn't say they did do it, I said they could do it.

FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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B...b...b...but it is on the interweb....

FriscoKid said:

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M1Buckeye said:

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FriscoKid said:

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It's not true.

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How do you know?

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Because, I build way more complex devices and equipment than this "toy". I've got decades of EE knowledge in this field. Alexa could be a "mole", but I really doubt it.

Alexa could be listening to your conversations and storing/processing the "data" but I doubt it. Tests have been conducted on the Alexa devices and there is almost zero network traffic when the device is "idle". There isn't enough memory in the device to store audio waveforms or processing power to analyze the audio waveforms and convert them to small text files to be uploaded later.

Alexa is an on-demand device. She is a simple phone (for lack of a better description) that gets activated by saying "Alexa" and then transmits raw audio files to a server farm that responds to the requests/commands.

In theory, the account/device could be blocked or disabled if a person said a "trigger word", but the free Alexa toy puck isn't listening to you.

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I don't doubt it at all. This happened to us just yesterday. We were all sitting around the pool and my wife's younger cousins were telling us where they wanted to move. One of them shared that she wanted to move to Denmark.

Conversation moves on. Mom picks up her phone to check something and there are now links and products for Denmark in her feeds. Her mom was flabbergasted by it because she doesn't know **** about Denmark and didn't know her daughter even knew what it was.

My wife and I have numerous examples of this as well. These devices are listening.