Wow nice blame football.

Did he have SSRI treatments for the mental health issues?

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Wow nice blame football.

Did he have SSRI treatments for the mental health issues?

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Brain injuries followed by pharmaceutical cornucopia is my guess.

Psychedelics may have been the resolution and preventative for this.

Clearly this is the gun's fault. We need to approve more gun restrictions immediately.

They sound like awful people.

Time to update the SSRI poster.
Can't believe they are blaming football / concussions for this one. How many NFL players have gone on a shooting spree?

That's a lawyer statement, not his parents.

Well maybe the concussions led to the mental illness. The mental illness led to poor judgment and processing. And other factors such as the influence of societal decay caused it to manifest itself in a homocidal rage.

I don't know.

Per the OP, I think it was "classmates" that brought up football, not the parents in their statement.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/14/former-nfl-player-accused-of-killing-six-people-was-suffering-from-severe-cte

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/sports/aaron-hernandez-cte-brain.html

No rampage- https://www.si.com/college/2018/06/26/tyler-hilinski-suicide-washington-state-qb-cte

Given the obsession with concussions today in football, I find it hard to believe he had "countless concussions." Also, when did he play football, high school, college, pee-wee, and how much playing time did he actually get?

Also, even with numerous concussions, CTE takes time to manifest itself, not just 2-3 years.

Manhattan said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/14/former-nfl-player-accused-of-killing-six-people-was-suffering-from-severe-cte

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/sports/aaron-hernandez-cte-brain.html

No rampage- https://www.si.com/college/2018/06/26/tyler-hilinski-suicide-washington-state-qb-cte

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Aaron Hernandez? No sir, that guy was a POS his entire adult life.

I've had concussions from being an idiot teenager and probably lost a couple of IQ points, but they don't make you into a sociopath.

Persistent divisive and victim narrative Ideological programming combined with a bombardment of glorification of mass shootings and idolization of violence might, however.

"The world is terrible and everyone is out to get you and other groups hate you and cause all of your problems, which are really their fault. Violence is the answer. See, it works all the time in popular culture and it'll make you famous and make your problems noticed…"

That's the message we are whispering into the ears of many distressed people as a culture right now..

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Wow nice blame football.

Did he have SSRI treatments for the mental health issues?

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Thats about 50% of the country though (i'm guessing)

TX_COWDOC said:

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Time to update the SSRI poster.
Can't believe they are blaming football / concussions for this one. How many NFL players have gone on a shooting spree?

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Seems like many mass shooting are the new suicides. They are too cowardly to kill themselves so they go on a shooting spree knowing they won't come out alive. Pathetic.

For the record, democrats or individuals that represent democrat values are the ones doing all the shooting. Perhaps we need to be looking at the values of democrats leading to mental illness. Can we even rule out that being a democrat IS a mental illness? Perhaps there is a particular part of the brain that clicks the switch when a certain level of hypocrisy is met.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Wow nice blame football.

Did he have SSRI treatments for the mental health issues?

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Thats about 50% of the country though (i'm guessing)

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Yeah, we live in a powder keg and the government wants to take my guns?

No thanks.

I had a friend that went freaking crazy and stabbed 3 family members, the doctors said he had severe CTE due to football. It affects some people more than others but it is real. Surely not the only issue these people had but it is a major cause for some.

Too many people are on SSRIs, I think it is more about how kids are being raised and people are so quick to get on meds instead of figuring out the true issues. It is one reason I coach my kids sports, I challenge the kids more than they would themselves. Challenge them until they fail, let them figure out how to succeed, and then do it. Repeat process. Failure has been taught to be a bad thing when it is one of the best things for development

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For the record, democrats or individuals that represent democrat values are the ones doing all the shooting. Perhaps we need to be looking at the values of democrats leading to mental illness. Can we even rule out that being a democrat IS a mental illness? Perhaps there is a particular part of the brain that clicks the switch when a certain level of hypocrisy is met.

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That is absolutely not true. Both sides have their crazies. Quit making something partisan when it needs bipartisan cooperation to get anything constitutional and feasible done to solve it.

Then why have almost all of the past 10 mass shooters been liberal? There has been a pattern lately and its obvious

Muy said:

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TX_COWDOC said:

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Time to update the SSRI poster.
Can't believe they are blaming football / concussions for this one. How many NFL players have gone on a shooting spree?

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Seems like many mass shooting are the new suicides. They are too cowardly to kill themselves so they go on a shooting spree knowing they won't come out alive. Pathetic.

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This makes sense to me. I imagine a lot of people with severe mental illness blame their problems on external forces. The ultimate expression of this is to have their life ended by external forces as the ideal justification for how they feel. Just killing yourself by your own hand places the blame on you.

Just a theory as I'm no shrink.

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IndividualFreedom said:

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For the record, democrats or individuals that represent democrat values are the ones doing all the shooting. Perhaps we need to be looking at the values of democrats leading to mental illness. Can we even rule out that being a democrat IS a mental illness? Perhaps there is a particular part of the brain that clicks the switch when a certain level of hypocrisy is met.

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That is absolutely not true. Both sides have their crazies. Quit making something partisan when it needs bipartisan cooperation to get anything constitutional and feasible done to solve it.

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This is absolutely true.
Crazies are few and far between.
Most of the homicides and "gun violence" occurs in democrat cities run by democrat Mayors with Democrat DAs who let violent criminals out in the name of equity, and this results in democrats shooting other democrats.

Take out democrat ****holes like Chicago, Baltimore, DC and Us gun violence doesn't look very bad at all.

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Then why have almost all of the past 10 mass shooters been liberal? There has been a pattern lately and its obvious

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Because liberals are more depressed, on social media more, and face a constant barrage by a liberal media telling them that the world is going to end (Climate change, WWIII, Trans people being murdered, kids being taken away from lesbian parents, improper use of pronouns)

When you are depressed and anxious, you are far more prone to catastrophic feelings.
There was a study posted on Texags (about a month ago) that talked about how this disproportionally affects liberal teenage girls.

And as we all know, most libs have the mentality of lib teen girls. It's science.

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That is absolutely not true. Both sides have their crazies. Quit making something partisan when it needs bipartisan cooperation to get anything constitutional and feasible done to solve it.

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Absolutely?

Count the democrat murderers vs. individual freedom loving murderers. Hell, the last 5 in a row have been trankees or woke. How am I absolutely wrong? I am not even counting the baby murdering democrats. Both sides may have their "crazies" but ours are not shooting up groups. If you are hinting at trying to post words that shake hands with the enemy of this nation, your are a "crazie". When the enemy stops voting to remove individual freedom and siding with criminals and murdering babies, then I will shake hands.

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I've had concussions from being an idiot teenager and probably lost a couple of IQ points, but they don't make you into a sociopath.

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This is a fundamental misunderstanding of CTE.

CTE is brain damage from repeated brain injuries including concussions. Concussions certainly cause serious damage, but they are not the sole source of brain injuries. If you go bash your head into a wall a few times everyday, you may not get a concussion, but you can certainly cause lasting damage. Repeated blows from football or another contact sport are certainly a way to cause damage, with or without concussions. There are infinite combinations of location, severity, frequency, time between blows, etc. These may average out to being benign for the vast majority, but considering the number of people who play football there will inevitably be a number who get the wrong combination of blows that may not even include concussions.

Brain injuries will also manifest themselves differently in different people because no two brains are the same and no two injuries are the same. Look at Charles Whitman. Brain tumors don't typically make people into violent sociopaths, but a tumor is one of the leading theories on why he felt violent impulses and killed 16 people. Just because you had some concussions and nothing happened doesn't mean that someone else can't or won't suffer mind altering brain damage from something similar.

There's no telling if he had CTE until an autopsy of his brain, and even if he did, there's no telling exactly what kind of issues it may have caused him. Still, it cannot be ruled out.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/14/former-nfl-player-accused-of-killing-six-people-was-suffering-from-severe-cte

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/21/sports/aaron-hernandez-cte-brain.html

No rampage- https://www.si.com/college/2018/06/26/tyler-hilinski-suicide-washington-state-qb-cte

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I guess we're still waiting on all the cheerleaders and soccer players?

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Take out democrat ****holes like Chicago, Baltimore, DC and Us gun violence doesn't look very bad at all.

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"Gun violence" statistics are cooked more than the "racism" statistics.

"Child deaths" by firearms counts 18-19 year olds, which comprise the vast majority. Most of those 18-19 year olds are inner city blacks killing each other.

Of the total number of death by firearms, the biggest chunk are suicides.

The vast majority of gun deaths are by handguns, not long guns. The number of people killed by semi-automatic rifles is generally 200-300, with a good chunk being crime related, not from a mass shooting.

"Mass shootings" include gang shootings, drive by shootings, domestic situations, other criminal activity related shootings, cartel activity, etc. Actual mass shootings are rare.

Deaths from mass shootings are very low.

"School shootings" statistics are even worse because people think they are all mass shootings with a shooter just blasting away randomly.

• Shooting for any reason at 2AM on school property
• Bullet fired from off school property hits the school building, or someone on site (time of day doesn't matter)
• Accidental discharge of a weapon (law enforcement or a gun a student brought) with no injuries
• Targeted attack where the shooter goes after a specific person and no one else.
• Suicide on campus
• Criminal activity (gang/drug related)

Football and concussions existed in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's and little to no protocols for head injuries and far less to almost no data on long term implications of said injuries.

Also, guns were much easier to obtain in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. No NICS. Every paper in the country had private guns for sale in the classifieds. My dad bought a rifle at the hardware store when he was 13.

And yet a mass shooting event, sans the gang/drug warfare in the 80's and 90's, were essentially unheard of.

Something changed and it wasn't head injuries, football, or access to firearms.

The tv is an instructional manual

Was the banker a leftist? Real question. If he was, I missed that somewhere.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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They sound like awful people.

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His parents? Why?

CDUB98 said:

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Was the banker a leftist? Real question. If he was, I missed that somewhere.

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Yes he was. Well documented in the main thread about the shooting.

A bunch of excuses & no ownership


Sounds like a family of liberals

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CDUB98 said:

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Was the banker a leftist? Real question. If he was, I missed that somewhere.

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Yes he was. Well documented in the main thread about the shooting.

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Despite what it seems like, I can't be everywhere.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Wow nice blame football.

Did he have SSRI treatments for the mental health issues?

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We had 10 decades of tackle football before football caused someone a leftist extremist to murder their co-workers and try to murder so many more.

I am sure his indoctrination from schools and the culture at large into Right Wing Gun Nut Politics Secular Humanistic Subjectivism had nothing to do with this shooting.......