TT Basketball coach suspended for quoting 'insensitive' bible verse

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StandUpforAmerica
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'Texas Tech coach suspended for 'racially insensitive' comment'
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35791167/texas-tech-coach-suspended-racially-insensitive-comment


StandUpforAmerica
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SW-14
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I like how the article actually tells you what the verse was so you can make your own opinion about it.
rocky the dog
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Quote:

If Adams were to be fired without cause, he would be owed 60% of what is remaining on his contract: more than $7 million.
If I were him, I'd keep quoting from the bible.
Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Funky Winkerbean
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What has happened to us?
AGHouston11
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Funky Winkerbean said:

What has happened to us?


The big turn to stupidity was when the Oklahoma State coach was in a scandal because……………..he was seen in a vacation picture wearing a OAN tshirt!

The country and sports fans just accepted it! Everyone was seemingly fine with him having to apologize and make amends with his school and team!

That was complete BS!
Bighunter43
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Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
beanbean
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That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
redcrayon
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Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
We'll get right on that. OR, you could just tell us what's going on since most here don't sub there.
combat wombat™
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People no longer study nor understand scripture.

2 Timothy 3
New International Version
3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

A Final Charge to Timothy

10 You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferingswhat kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
TheEternalPessimist
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If our society was taught Biblical hermeneutics in our education system.... people would have understood that the context of slavery in the Bible has nothing to do with chattel slavery that we had in the Americas when blacks were held as captives.

What was happening in pre-1865 US was expressly forbidden - it's call man selling.

"Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death. Exodus 21:16

From Biblestudy.org: The Old Testament does permit slavery (servitude) but only under special circumstances and with restrictions.

At no point does the Bible allow for a slave to be sold, and in addition, at no point does the scripture endorse that a man and woman be split up by the sell of a slave OR their children be sold and taken from them.

Finally - what was happening to blacks here was more akin to the captivity that was experienced by the Jews in Egypt and also what happened to Jews during the Babylonian Captivity. Even though God allowed these events to happen, he makes clear that he opposed the mistreatment and captivity of his chosen people. By extension , this kind of behavior is frowned upon by God for all people regardless of race, location, etc....
Ellis Wyatt
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beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
The Bible wasn't written for non-sinners.
Funky Winkerbean
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Do we just accept that was his intent? Does it even matter anymore?
TheEternalPessimist
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II Timothy 3:16 is so important as is binds ALL scripture in both the Old and New Testament to being divinely inspired.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
The Bible wasn't written for non-sinners.
Yeah - Beanbean's post is lame.

I used to go to strip clubs and look at pornography when I was young. So should I not teach my son and others that both of these things are inappropriate in Christian life?

Imperfect ad flawed people quoting perfect scripture does not diminish the truth of scripture.
Aggie4Life02
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Reminds me of the David Howard nig-gardly incident back in 1999. Idiots.
The Debt
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Ellis Wyatt said:

beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
The Bible wasn't written for non-sinners.

Marrying your deceased brother's wife is actually quite biblical. It ensures she won't be a discarded widow. Dude went straight levitical. The whining is that he divorced his wife...which no one here has the details. There are, indeed, biblical reasons to divorce.
beanbean
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TheEternalPessimist said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
The Bible wasn't written for non-sinners.
Yeah - Beanbean's post is lame.

I used to go to strip clubs and look at pornography when I was young. So should I not teach my son and others that both of these things are inappropriate in Christian life?

Imperfect ad flawed people quoting perfect scripture does not diminish the truth of scripture.
LOL. He quoted a scripture about slaves serving their masters in order to get a player to be more receptive to his coaching. So this quoting of the bible was not to inspire the kid but to get the kid to obey him. It was self serving. So yeah that would ring a bit hollow coming from this guy especially since he walked out on his family just a couple of months ago. This wasn't 20 years ago.
Bighunter43
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redcrayon said:

Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
We'll get right on that. OR, you could just tell us what's going on since most here don't sub there.


First of all...I wasn't aware that most here don't have a sub there. Second, I'm not sure I'm allowed to cross post from there. Bean bean was on to part of it. Sounds like Tech was looking for a reason to part ways, and the Bible verse is just an excuse. Apparently he was having an affair with his deceased twin brothers wife. Divorced his wife of 40 years and married her. There's some controversy over spitting in a players face and saying something to the effect of "I spit on whoever I want" ....for starters.
TomFoolery
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Bighunter43 said:

redcrayon said:

Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
We'll get right on that. OR, you could just tell us what's going on since most here don't sub there.


First of all...I wasn't aware that most here don't have a sub there. Second, I'm not sure I'm allowed to cross post from there. Bean bean was on to part of it. Sounds like Tech was looking for a reason to part ways, and the Bible verse is just an excuse. Apparently he was having an affair with his deceased twin brothers wife. Divorced his wife of 40 years and married her. There's some controversy over spitting in a players face and saying something to the effect of "I spit on whoever I want" ....for starters.


Then why not make it about those things instead of the Bible verse?
beanbean
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Bighunter43 said:

redcrayon said:

Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
We'll get right on that. OR, you could just tell us what's going on since most here don't sub there.


First of all...I wasn't aware that most here don't have a sub there. Second, I'm not sure I'm allowed to cross post from there. Bean bean was on to part of it. Sounds like Tech was looking for a reason to part ways, and the Bible verse is just an excuse. Apparently he was having an affair with his deceased twin brothers wife. Divorced his wife of 40 years and married her. There's some controversy over spitting in a players face and saying something to the effect of "I spit on whoever I want" ....for starters.
Nah, I'm not on the premium board. I'm sure what I've posted may be being discussed over there, but it's been out there for a while, that's where I got it.
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SW-14 said:

I like how the article actually tells you what the verse was so you can make your own opinion about it.
Most media don't tell the truth anyway... why do you this they'd report The Truth correctly?
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Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
If it's on the premium board, I don't think it's the coach who is strange.
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beanbean said:

TheEternalPessimist said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.
The Bible wasn't written for non-sinners.
Yeah - Beanbean's post is lame.

I used to go to strip clubs and look at pornography when I was young. So should I not teach my son and others that both of these things are inappropriate in Christian life?

Imperfect ad flawed people quoting perfect scripture does not diminish the truth of scripture.
LOL. He quoted a scripture about slaves serving their masters in order to get a player to be more receptive to his coaching. So this quoting of the bible was not to inspire the kid but to get the kid to obey him. It was self serving. So yeah that would ring a bit hollow coming from this guy especially since he walked out on his family just a couple of months ago. This wasn't 20 years ago.

Look, you're probably right about the self-serving nature of the comments, but you also seem to be saying that hypocrisy is, by far, the most important issue. That's nowhere near the truth and society needs to quit thinking that. Had he picked a proper object lesson with scriptural backing, what he's doing personally isn't irrelevant but it also isn't the only thing relevant. He MAY not be doing the right thing according to the Word, but at least he's offering it. I did something last week that I would chew a friend out for doing the next day. Admittedly, I apologized to the person an hour or two later, but there's no 20 year (or 20 hour) time frame on anything.

He has to account for his own personal (and professional) life. He's been put in charge of his players'. Maybe not spiritually, per se, but the "university" isn't going to care much if he gets results (i.e. wins).

(And yes, make no mistake, this is ALL about his record this year and other team issues. tech wants him out and this is an excuse. Would be ignored if they had last year's record.)
Ag by Association
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We're close folks. Real close. If you don't know Jesus Christ, please reach out. Ain't none of us perfect, but there is an answer to all this mess.
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rocky the dog said:

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If Adams were to be fired without cause, he would be owed 60% of what is remaining on his contract: more than $7 million.
If I were him, I'd keep quoting from the bible.


Might as well go down swinging like Kanye. Are there any other slave serving the master parts of the Bible Adams can quote to his players to let them know that God commands them to be receptive to his coaching? Adams is suspended for now, but he could probably still text and email the players other biblically inspired instructions.
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TheEternalPessimist said:

If our society was taught Biblical hermeneutics in our education system.... people would have understood that the context of slavery in the Bible has nothing to do with chattel slavery that we had in the Americas when blacks were held as captives.

What was happening in pre-1865 US was expressly forbidden - it's call man selling.

"Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death. Exodus 21:16

From Biblestudy.org: The Old Testament does permit slavery (servitude) but only under special circumstances and with restrictions.

At no point does the Bible allow for a slave to be sold, and in addition, at no point does the scripture endorse that a man and woman be split up by the sell of a slave OR their children be sold and taken from them.

Finally - what was happening to blacks here was more akin to the captivity that was experienced by the Jews in Egypt and also what happened to Jews during the Babylonian Captivity. Even though God allowed these events to happen, he makes clear that he opposed the mistreatment and captivity of his chosen people. By extension , this kind of behavior is frowned upon by God for all people regardless of race, location, etc....


Got it. So Adams was talking to his player(s) about a different kind of slave that had to obey a master than the type that would be commonly understood by his players. He meant to liken them to biblical slaves that needed to obey their master, which was an honorable profession for the slaves. Their masters couldn't, checks quoted notes about biblical slavery, sell them and scripture doesn't endorse breaking up husband, wife, and child slaves.

The nuance is just lost on people.

Just out of curiosity does scripture condemn breaking up the slave family unit, or is "at no point does the scripture endorse" the best defense on that point?
mosdefn14
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beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.


Levirate marriage/Kinsman Redeemer?

Onan died for not taking this role seriously. Judah had to pick up the torch. Ruth/Boaz as another example.
combat wombat™
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Yeah, I don't think those guys already had wives that they divorced. Did they?
Ellis Wyatt
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Bighunter43 said:

Probably ought to read the Premium forum.....apparently there's a lot more to it than him quoting the Bible verse. Sounds like a strange guy to say the least!
That place seems nuttier than anything this guy might say. Also seems like a lot of low-IQ folks post over there.
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beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.


Then he can just go be the son of the president then.
mosdefn14
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combat wombat said:

Yeah, I don't think those guys already had wives that they divorced. Did they?


Eh, just saying there was precedent for marrying your brother's widow
beanbean
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mosdefn14 said:

beanbean said:

That Texas Tech coach divorced his wife of decades and married his sister in law when his brother died and his body wasn't even cold yet. Probably shouldn't go around quoting the bible in the first place.


Levirate marriage/Kinsman Redeemer?

Onan died for not taking this role seriously. Judah had to pick up the torch. Ruth/Boaz as another example.
Oh I don't doubt Mark Adams sees himself like that. His ex-wife probably doesn't though.
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