South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

Nanomachines son said:

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South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

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Israel now leading the developed world in number of babies.

suck it Koreas!

Tube sock sales through the roof.

I just don't get it. I drug my feet a few years after getting married, not because I didn't want kids, but because we were young, making great money, and having fun all the time. Anyway, knocking my wife up was the pinnacle of manliness as far as I was concerned. Being in public with her pregnant was the biggest ego boost of my life. Being a dad and husband is the greatest thing I have ever done and will ever do. Again, I don't get it.

As my old pastor declared when he saw her clearly pregnant for the first time - God Loves Procreation!

Get after it folks. You're missing out on the greatest joys of life.

There is competition in extreme for socioeconomic position and status and children are very expensive. If they have children at all it is one, so that child receives the most possible resources and support. It is also cultural, the social groups are very conservative it seems regarding relationships and also worthiness for marriage and I guess the social trend is why bother when you can self indulge in other ways?

DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

TriAg2010 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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COVID year was like living in Alaska. What else are you going to do?

What is TFR?

Couldn't imagine my branch of our family dying with me. It's similar to that old man in Shawshank Redemption but he dies without carving his name into the wood. Was he ever actually here? That's a sad thought.

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What is TFR?

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total fertility rate. Replacement rate is typically considered 2.1 or so.

Urban Ag said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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COVID year was like living in Alaska. What else are you going to do?

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There was only so much Netflix you can watch before it's time to chill.

So that sucks. South Koreans are pretty kickass as a nation and people. We need more of them.

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I just don't get it. I drug my feet a few years after getting married, not because I didn't want kids, but because we were young, making great money, and having fun all the time. Anyway, knocking my wife up was the pinnacle of manliness as far as I was concerned. Being in public with her pregnant was the biggest ego boost of my life. Being a dad and husband is the greatest thing I have ever done and will ever do. Again, I don't get it.

As my old pastor declared when he saw her clearly pregnant for the first time - God Loves Procreation!

Get after it folks. You're missing out on the greatest joys of life.

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South Korea is a technological hellhole. You live in a ****box, their male/female dynamics make ours look like the 1950s, they were run by a literal feminist cult for decades (no I'm not joking, it was a huge scandal when it broke a few years ago, even their President was a slave), and everything is so sanitized and sterile that zero people enjoy anything.

Would you rather live in a small shoebox apartment collecting Funko POPs than live under a barbarian king? Yeah, on an individual level I can see how people would make that choice, but the barbarian king comes and goes, while South Korea is quite literally a historical dead end.

— Mount Paektu Bloodline Respecter 40K 🇸🇪🤝🇰🇵 (@Tinkzorg) March 2, 2023

I'll volunteer as tribute to head over to South Korea and make it rain. Gnome Sayin?

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So that sucks. South Koreans are pretty kickass as a nation and people. We need more of them.

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at this rate they will need massive immigration to remain functional as a society in 100 years. For every man and woman dying; they are being replaced by .71 people. The math doesn't look too good extrapolated.

Dies Irae said:

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aTmAg said:

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So that sucks. South Koreans are pretty kickass as a nation and people. We need more of them.

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at this rate they will need massive immigration to remain functional as a society in 100 years. For every man and woman dying; they are being replaced by .71 people. The math doesn't look too good extrapolated.

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Their population isn't just in a collapse, the entire nation will be basically empty in 30 to 50 years.

It will be the world's largest industrial and commercial ghost town.

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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I guess you can call that growth but .1% or less isn't exactly a monumental number. I'm sure pockets are definitely growing (we are) but as a whole we're not in great shape

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I just don't get it. I drug my feet a few years after getting married, not because I didn't want kids, but because we were young, making great money, and having fun all the time. Anyway, knocking my wife up was the pinnacle of manliness as far as I was concerned. Being in public with her pregnant was the biggest ego boost of my life. Being a dad and husband is the greatest thing I have ever done and will ever do. Again, I don't get it.

As my old pastor declared when he saw her clearly pregnant for the first time - God Loves Procreation!

Get after it folks. You're missing out on the greatest joys of life.

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And it is fun *trying*

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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I wonder how much of that is simply due to Central and South Americans streaming over the border and then humping like rabbits for anchor babies.

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TriAg2010 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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I wonder how much of that is simply due to Central and South Americans streaming over the border and then humping like rabbits for anchor babies.

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TFR for socially conservative white Christians has been increasing. Hispanic birth rates have been doing down.

We are in uncharted territory on demographics and what it is going to mean around the world. It's different issues in different countries but there are an awful lot of places that are completely screwed. At least in Japan and South Korea they have made some smart choices in allying with the US from a trade and military perspective to an almost submissive level and they have embraced AI and robotics to increase productivity. Neither country allows any significant immigration and since they aren't having babies that's going to get very interesting.

China and Russia are the most screwed because they not only have horrific demographics (likely worse than S Korea but they don't give out accurate data) but they have done very little to prepare for it. That's why they are so dangerous, dying powers looking for a lifeline do irrational things.

Western Europe is on a slower paced death spiral but the failure is still inevitable. Israel's numbers look good until you realize that many of the births are Arabs and not Jews. The US is in decent shape in part because we still are the brain drain for the 1st World. People focus on the illegal immigration (and rightly so) but we also have been getting the best and brightest from all over the world for 150 years. Think of the impact of guys like Elon Musk or the legions of Engineers that come from India and China. We also get the best and brightest from Central and South America and even places like Nigeria as well as still pulling from Europe.

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aTmAg said:

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So that sucks. South Koreans are pretty kickass as a nation and people. We need more of them.

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at this rate they will need massive immigration to remain functional as a society in 100 years. For every man and woman dying; they are being replaced by .71 people. The math doesn't look too good extrapolated.

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It depends on how big their social security-like programs are. If it's like our SS They need new blood to keep the Ponzi scheme going like we do. But if they abandon that and embrace the free market even more, then they will not have any sort of catastrophe. The reduction in supply and demand will go down together and their GDP/capita will be fine.

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Nanomachines son said:

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South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

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Israel now leading the developed world in number of babies.

suck it Koreas!

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This is good news.

I think white and latino Christians in America have a pretty solid rate, and that our overall numbers are brought down by godless leftists...who seem hellbent on finding any and every way to reduce their own numbers. Prob why they are constantly proselytizing and trying to brainwash the youth.

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LMCane said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

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Israel now leading the developed world in number of babies.

suck it Koreas!

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This is good news.

I think white and latino Christians in America have a pretty solid rate, and that our overall numbers are brought down by godless leftists...who seem hellbent on finding any and every way to reduce their own numbers. Prob why they are constantly proselytizing and trying to brainwash the youth.

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Good point. I think the immigrants (legal and illegal) who come into our country tend to have the mentality of "the more, the merrier" when it comes to baby-making. They'll help keep our population going just fine for at least a few generations, if not more.

Urban Ag said:

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I just don't get it. I drug my feet a few years after getting married, not because I didn't want kids, but because we were young, making great money, and having fun all the time. Anyway, knocking my wife up was the pinnacle of manliness as far as I was concerned. Being in public with her pregnant was the biggest ego boost of my life. Being a dad and husband is the greatest thing I have ever done and will ever do. Again, I don't get it.

As my old pastor declared when he saw her clearly pregnant for the first time - God Loves Procreation!

Get after it folks. You're missing out on the greatest joys of life.

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They truly do not know what they are missing...as mankind strays further and further from our main worldly purpose, you will see depression, addiction, and suicide skyrocket.

Our church goes nuts every time (a) someone is baptized, or (b) a new baby is announced.

Korea is 20% Protestant and 8% Catholic. Would like to see their numbers broken out and compared with the Buddhists and secularists.

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LMCane said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

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Israel now leading the developed world in number of babies.

suck it Koreas!

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This is good news.

I think white and latino Christians in America have a pretty solid rate, and that our overall numbers are brought down by godless leftists...who seem hellbent on finding any and every way to reduce their own numbers. Prob why they are constantly proselytizing and trying to brainwash the youth.

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Good point. I think the immigrants (legal and illegal) who come into our country tend to have the mentality of "the more, the merrier" when it comes to baby-making. They'll help keep our population going just fine for at least a few generations, if not more.

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Yep, and they do not at all tend to be woke in any way. More masculine than the white left, that is for sure. That's why I support an immigration program that allows a relatively steady flow of migrant families from Mx and Central America but that also screens hard to weed out the criminals and deadbeats. We also can't offer them freebies.

I know it's a pipe dream, but if we can replace the white liberal with a bunch of good Catholic Mexicans, we can help turn this country around.

Time for some immigrants, pregnant ones with another in a stroller.

I think you're going to see some really really radical policies in Asia in regards to fertility and kids within a decade. The policies in Hungary and even in the West are going to force single/childless people to bear the cost of those willing/able to have kids.

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Urban Ag said:

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I just don't get it. I drug my feet a few years after getting married, not because I didn't want kids, but because we were young, making great money, and having fun all the time. Anyway, knocking my wife up was the pinnacle of manliness as far as I was concerned. Being in public with her pregnant was the biggest ego boost of my life. Being a dad and husband is the greatest thing I have ever done and will ever do. Again, I don't get it.

As my old pastor declared when he saw her clearly pregnant for the first time - God Loves Procreation!

Get after it folks. You're missing out on the greatest joys of life.

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South Korea is a technological hellhole. You live in a ****box, their male/female dynamics make ours look like the 1950s, they were run by a literal feminist cult for decades (no I'm not joking, it was a huge scandal when it broke a few years ago, even their President was a slave), and everything is so sanitized and sterile that zero people enjoy anything.

Would you rather live in a small shoebox apartment collecting Funko POPs than live under a barbarian king? Yeah, on an individual level I can see how people would make that choice, but the barbarian king comes and goes, while South Korea is quite literally a historical dead end.

— Mount Paektu Bloodline Respecter 40K 🇸🇪🤝🇰🇵 (@Tinkzorg) March 2, 2023

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Tell us more or links?

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TriAg2010 said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Most countries were on a downward trend, but Covid lock downs created more social anxiety and has impacted relationships.

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Fertility in the U.S. has risen year over year since roughly 2018 - including through COVID. Our preschool has a double class for all the COVID babies born in early 2021.

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COVID year was like living in Alaska. What else are you going to do?

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Unfortunately, my wife is not the most fertile, for whatever reason. But during Covid, and WFH, we banged it out more than ever. It can be tougher when you both work and get home late in the evenings and are tired and she just wants to wind down and get rest. But WFH and flex schedules have changed everything. After years of trying and pretty much giving up, she had a miscarriage early in the pandemic (which was sad, but gave us hope), then a few months later we conceived a healthy baby girl. Turns out it just takes a whole lot of reps with my wife I guess.

Not even two and sassy as hell. Ironically half Korean, so I'm helping boost their numbers ever so marginally.

No Spin Ag said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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LMCane said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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South Korea sets a new record low for fertility, TFR of 0.78.

No other developed country is even close. Among OECD, second lowest is Japan at 1.33, which is 70% higher!

What a world historical failure. https://t.co/xZsvVuN8Pr pic.twitter.com/jm68GqCOTV

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 22, 2023

We will watch a country collapse in real time. Their TFR continues to decrease every year too.

At this rate North Korea will be able to just walk into the country in a decade or two without any resistance.

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Israel now leading the developed world in number of babies.

suck it Koreas!

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This is good news.

I think white and latino Christians in America have a pretty solid rate, and that our overall numbers are brought down by godless leftists...who seem hellbent on finding any and every way to reduce their own numbers. Prob why they are constantly proselytizing and trying to brainwash the youth.

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Good point. I think the immigrants (legal and illegal) who come into our country tend to have the mentality of "the more, the merrier" when it comes to baby-making. They'll help keep our population going just fine for at least a few generations, if not more.

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This is false. The first generation is like this but with the 2nd generation the birth rate collapses immensely and becomes close to the national norm.

It also doesn't help that the source for many of the nations of immigrants have had collapses of their own TFR as well so that makes for less young people who are even capable of immigrating here, which leads to less people too.

Is that still true? I know that's how we view Mexican immigrants because it was true for so long but I'm not really noticing that with the current trends. At least anecdotally.