Biden's SEC is coming for your investment account

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CDUB98
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Does anyone here have more insight on these proposed rules and the likelihood of them passing. I use a brokerage account quite a bit and don't want the gov't messing up life even more.

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Late last year, SEC Chair Gary Gensler rolled out a set of far-reaching, experimental reforms that, if finalized by the agency, would fundamentally change the way retail investors' stock trades are handled. These include a set of prescriptive government mandates dictating where these trades would need to be executed and at what price.

Gensler claims that he needs to act quickly and act aggressively because there isn't enough competition to execute your stock trades, and you may not be getting the best price theoretically possible.


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So why the sudden rush by the SEC to upend and micromanage a market that already works extraordinarily well for retail investors? At its core, Gensler a hundred millionaire, 65-year-old former Goldman Sachs partner appears to be motivated by the view that Main Street America simply isn't capable of choosing how they should invest their own money and that they need the government to protect them from themselves.

The recent explosive growth in the number of retail investors' participating in the stock market, punctuated by extraordinary retail trading activity and market turmoil in meme stocks in January 2021, has provided a rationale however misguided for the SEC to act now in the name of competition and investor protection.

Under the guise of enhancing competition to execute retail investors' trades on an "order-by-order" basis, Gensler's rules would attack the self-directed brokerage model and the millions of investors who use this model by introducing significant frictions into stock trading, compressing brokers' revenues, and making brokerage platforms less attractive to retail investors.

The rules would take the extraordinary step of centralizing the execution of retail investors' stock trades in what many expect to be slower, more complicated, and more expensive auctions run by quasi-governmental exchanges just like the markets used to work (or not work) in 1975. Trust the government, they are here to help. Remember how well the Obamacare website worked?


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Gensler's campaign against self-directed brokerage and retail investors is also evident in another set of extreme reforms Gensler is expected to roll out later this year that would crack down on the ability of brokers to communicate with their customers using so-called "digital engagement practices."

In other words, this would ban the normal twenty-first century methods of communication used by countless businesses across a variety of industries including insurance, banking, retail and eCommerce, healthcare, travel and leisure, entertainment, and telecommunications.

The damage the SEC's overreaching rule proposals will do to the stock market and retail investors is likely to be extraordinary and long-lasting.


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-sec-is-coming-your-investment-account
Funky Winkerbean
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Maybe it will take a nuclear bomb to the forehead for them to understand we have a spending problem. Or, a nuclear bomb to our forehead for allowing this blatant attack on our assets. How much is too much?
Hungry Ojos
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A "hundred millionaire" thinks average Joe SixPack has too much money in his brokerage account and by God, is gonna put a stop to it.

You can't make this ****ing **** up.
Robert L. Peters
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I recall this being discussed here like 10 years ago. At the time I thought it was nonsense. But I've learned postcovid that the worms in this nation can be convinced of anything.
Schneider Electric
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Pigs in the farmhouse you in the barn
FTAG 2000
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Maybe it will take a nuclear bomb to the forehead for them to understand we have a spending problem. Or, a nuclear bomb to our forehead for allowing this blatant attack on our assets. How much is too much?

This doesn't have anything to do with their spending issues at the federal level.

The meme stock craze last year cost a lot of very rich and powerful people a lot of money.

They want to unlevel the playing field by making retail use a slower trading system, giving the big investment firms and the wealthy a chance to get in or out ahead of retail on trades.

*******s.
Rapier108
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Seizing all 401Ks and IRAs isn't far off.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Ellis Wyatt
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Hungry Ojos said:

A "hundred millionaire" thinks average Joe SixPack has too much money in his brokerage account and by God, is gonna put a stop to it.

You can't make this ****ing **** up.
That's how The Party always works. Just see all our environmental betters and how they live on a day-to-day basis.

YOU will comply.
Ellis Wyatt
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The Green Dragon said:

I recall this being discussed here like 10 years ago. At the time I thought it was nonsense. But I've learned postcovid that the worms in this nation can be convinced of anything.
Hussein and his people floated it out there. We knew then that it was eventually coming.

**** anyone who votes for these marxists.
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Rapier108 said:

Seizing all 401Ks and IRAs isn't far off.


this actually makes a lot of sense because the government has proven without a shadow of a doubt they are very good at managing money.
ChiefKiefton
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Rapier108 said:

Seizing all 401Ks and IRAs isn't far off.
This is why my 401k is gold/silver. They can try to find it on my 100 acre property if they want.
Tramp96
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First the Southeast Conference completely blows up college football conferences, and now this.

Max Power
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So why the sudden rush by the SEC to upend and micromanage a market that already works extraordinarily well for retail investors? At its core, Gensler a hundred millionaire, 65-year-old former Goldman Sachs partner appears to be motivated by the view that Main Street America simply isn't capable of choosing how they should invest their own money and that they need the government to protect them from themselves.
Anyone who believes this rationale is a ****ing fool.
DallasAg 94
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CDUB98
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FTAG 2000 said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

Maybe it will take a nuclear bomb to the forehead for them to understand we have a spending problem. Or, a nuclear bomb to our forehead for allowing this blatant attack on our assets. How much is too much?

This doesn't have anything to do with their spending issues at the federal level.

The meme stock craze last year cost a lot of very rich and powerful people a lot of money.

They want to unlevel the playing field by making retail use a slower trading system, giving the big investment firms and the wealthy a chance to get in or out ahead of retail on trades.

*******s.


This is a good take, IMO.

What is the likelihood though?
Old Sarge
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Maybe it will take a nuclear bomb to the forehead for them to understand we have a spending problem. Or, a nuclear bomb to our forehead for allowing this blatant attack on our assets. How much is too much?


In their eyes, they don't have a spending problem, the $$$ goes right where it needs to. The "problem" they have, is they have to fund it with YOUR money, and lots of your money is in retirement funds, where it sits, idly, while they could "spend it" just like the other money they took from you.

Furthermore, you are becoming "a problem" yourself for griping about it.
"Green" is the new RED.
CDUB98
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Guys, none of this is about Federal spending or 401k account seizure.

This is about SEC rules making it more difficult for us peons to trade.
richardag
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Hungry Ojos said:

A "hundred millionaire" thinks average Joe SixPack has too much money in his brokerage account and by God, is gonna put a stop to it.

You can't make this ****ing **** up.

Just wondering how the Gamestp/Robinhood scandal affected this SEC POS's decision?
How many remember the little investors affected Robinhood?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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itsyourboypookie
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Invest in cash flowing real estate
richardag
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Ellis Wyatt said:

The Green Dragon said:

I recall this being discussed here like 10 years ago. At the time I thought it was nonsense. But I've learned postcovid that the worms in this nation can be convinced of anything.
Hussein and his people floated it out there. We knew then that it was eventually coming.

**** anyone who votes for these marxists.

Hoping many voters wake up SOON.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Showertime at the Bidens
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Put a penny tax on every stock trade to stifle the speculators and bots. That would help the average Joe.
The Kraken
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Rapier108 said:

Seizing all 401Ks and IRAs isn't far off.
I have a very difficult time believing this theory.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Ellis Wyatt
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Geddy Lee soul patch said:

Rapier108 said:

Seizing all 401Ks and IRAs isn't far off.
I have a very difficult time believing this theory.
It is definitely the goal. It has been stated several times.

Hell, federal tax dollars have just been stolen to bail out the Teamsters' bankrupt pension system. Why? It's no different at all.
jagvocate
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This is meant to stop the unwashed retailers from teaming up to squeeze Wall St. Short positions and to let brokers better front run
nortex97
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All that money for Ukrainian civil service worker's gotta come from somewhere, boys and girls.
The Kraken
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Considering how many people have 401(k)s and IRA accounts, including politicians and their families, I don't see any way this happens.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Ellis Wyatt
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Geddy Lee soul patch said:

Considering how many people have 401(k)s and IRA accounts, including politicians and their families, I don't see any way this happens.
I didn't see any way a corrupt liar who can't remember his own name could possibly be elected President, but here we are.

BTW, that's exactly why they are coming after the 401(k)s...because so many people have them. The DC politicians are (d)ifferent. They're in The Party and will exempt themselves and their staffs from legislation, just like they did for Obamacare.
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Pumpkinhead
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As someone who only uses big investment firms, do I need to care about this?
AggieVictor10
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richardag said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

The Green Dragon said:

I recall this being discussed here like 10 years ago. At the time I thought it was nonsense. But I've learned postcovid that the worms in this nation can be convinced of anything.
Hussein and his people floated it out there. We knew then that it was eventually coming.

**** anyone who votes for these marxists.

Hoping many voters wake up SOON.


They might when it affects them. Lotta millennial and gen Z finance bros but a lot of them voted conservative already.

Gotta hope for this to affect the liberal or otgerwise apolitical redditor, on the off-chance that they aren't a libertarian crypto bro. Already
SamjamAg
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What it means is the fees for your brokerage account go up, no more free trades, and complex regulations making trading more difficult. I believe all intended to keep the little guy from self directed investing.
Predmid
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All because internet meme lords squeezed hedge funds short positions on meme stocks to the mooon! diamond hands!
BQ78
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SEC! SEC! SEC!

Whoops, wrong thread sorry!
Ellis Wyatt
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ac04 said:

they're not going to seize them outright
Why wouldn't they? What did Hussein do with GM?
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