Is this consensus of the elites an acceptable proposition to a majority of the Western world?

Que Te Gusta Mas said:

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Is this consensus of the elites an acceptable proposition to a majority of the Western world?

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No, they literally think we are harming the planet and if we don't do something about it, we are all going to die. They are BSC!

The elites just see an opportunity to steal these BSC peoples money…

Que Te Gusta Mas said:

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Is this consensus of the elites an acceptable proposition to a majority of the Western world?

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Actually they'd rather kill off most of the world's population in the name of "climate change," but really because the elites just want to rule over the remaining surfs.

So viewing it economically, how much of the push is about AI replacing useless eaters? In the future as complexity of tasks increases, the IQ threshold for productivity will increase.

How much is about a larger population spawning greater competition? A population of a billion will spawn a greater number of outliers than a million.

Or is it all out of the goodness of their hearts for the masses?

It is an irrational selfish and nihilistic religious trope from leftist fools. The data clearly indicates that is not the case, and trends do not support the need to impoverish the population, and basic morality requires that poor nations be given fair opportunities to improve their conditions. People with enough wealth to lose are the ones that care enough about the future to bother to look to it, and have the means to even consider it.

MouthBQ98 said:

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It is an irrational selfish and nihilistic religious trope from leftist fools. The data clearly indicates that is not the case, and trends do not support the need to impoverish the population, and basic morality requires that poor nations be given fair opportunities to improve their conditions. People with enough wealth to lose are the ones that care enough about the future to bother to look to it, and have the means to even consider it.

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Michael Schellenberger has really been railing on this.

The capitalist class, the people who built their wealth from scratch, tend to feel proud, not guilty, for what they built. They defend free markets as part of their legacy. Their children and grandchildren who inherit their wealth struggle with their purpose.

— Michael Shellenberger (@ShellenbergerMD) November 7, 2022

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We must make people poorer today

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FIFY, this is the only part of the agenda they really care about.

aggie93 said:

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We must make people poorer today

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FIFY, this is the only part of the agenda they really care about.

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Agreed. If you take them at their word and read their published books available on Amazon, they truly believe in population control leading to an Ubermensch that will be further improved by Transhumanism through nanotechnology and gene editing. Climate change is merely the means to achieving this. Klaus is really weak on the climate data necessitating all this.

It's quite literally a progression of Michael Chrichton's last three books. Prey -> State of Fear -> Next

Who honestly believes their great grandchildren will be forced to trace their roots based on migration forced by climate change?

For those of you that have time this is a pretty good listen.

Let's see here: planet is about 6 billion years old; life about 3.7 billion; our galaxy has around 150 billion stars; there are around 2 trillion galaxies. It is SOOOOO important to the survival of the universe that we address 'climate' change. I mean life on this planet has shown ZERO resiliency thus far. It took 200,000 years for our species to come out of the caves and improve the standard of living to a tolerable level and the white liberals want to trash it. They are the enemy!

We will have to fight these people.

There is a mix of people who genuinely believe changes in climate patterns are man made. The next group virtue signals or is shamed into getting along. The third are grifters looking to profit off of it. ESG has become a massive consultants golden egg.

However, for the ones that view this as a religion, then the ends justify the means and all casualties are justified in the pursuit of the goal.

Then there are those of us who are sure man generated carbon has some influence in the climate but are not at all convinced that it is a net negative thing and that we could make a lot more CO2 and still easily adapt to the resulting changes, or at least adapt much more easily than suffer the consequences of a vain and futile attempt to prevent climate change over time.

There's simply no reason to particularly worry about climate change as a looming disaster when it can just as much present opportunities to humanity, and it is a natural phenomenon of the global system. Humanity is just one of many drivers of constant change.

I am going to buy some run down trailer parks, I am sure climates Libs will give up their houses to come live in them.

Que Te Gusta Mas said:

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Is this consensus of the elites an acceptable proposition to a majority of the Western world?

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Yes, but just us. Not them.

Making people poorer is only a step towards eliminating the people.

This is alll about depopulation.

I don't understand their need and desire for depopulation. It's going to happen on its own. All you have to do is follow the math on birth rates the world over.

And when stuff stops working and there is no one around to fix anything what are they going to do then? These people are blatantly trying to create a dystopian movie in real life. Do they think they are going to be able to escape it all and live in Elysium while the serfs live in hovels on earth?

The problem is that there is a good chance we won't ever come close to achieving the sci-fi tech that is sometimes prevalent in these stories because we are actively dumbing down education and destroying the will to create and innovate.

So good luck with your Children of Men future because that is way more likely than anything else.

As an added bonus it makes the populace 100% dependent upon their 'leadership' and 'grace'.

FJB said:

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Making people poorer is only a step towards eliminating the people.

This is alll about depopulation.

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The true insanity of that is we actually have the reverse problem, especially in Western countries. The consequences of depopulation are going to make life much harder than most realize.

The ultimate goal is to wipe out the middle class and drastically reduce earths population, particularly everyone who doesn't live under the rule of the globalists in their world cities

They envision a future where 90% of the remaining human population is confined to a handful of major world cities. They envision these cities each working like a combination of the planned social eugenics of Brave New World and the brutal police state of 1984

MouthBQ98 said:

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Then there are those of us who are sure man generated carbon has some influence in the climate but are not at all convinced that it is a net negative thing and that we could make a lot more CO2 and still easily adapt to the resulting changes, or at least adapt much more easily than suffer the consequences of a vain and futile attempt to prevent climate change over time.

There's simply no reason to particularly worry about climate change as a looming disaster when it can just as much present opportunities to humanity, and it is a natural phenomenon of the global system. Humanity is just one of many drivers of constant change.

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Human activity is a very minor factor in climate change, and, as you say, possibly a positive one. CO2 from natural phenomenon is much greater than from human activity. In the time frame of geology, CO2 level in the atmosphere is currently low. AND, cycles related to the sun far out weigh all other factors. Global cooling is much worse for humanity than warming.