Vaccine deniers, you finally get your test case (China)

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shiftyandquick
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Where only about 25% of the elderly are vaccinated, and those guys got a vaccine that the West says is inferior to the mRNA vaccines.

So here you go. We get to see whether not being vaccinated is an advantage for the elderly, as you guys claim.

Get Off My Lawn
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I get they you're trying to make SOME kind of a snarky point, but you realize that reporting out of China will be highly suspect no matter which way it points, right?
redcrayon
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Can you let us know now if you intend to engage or just post and run?
1872walker
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Don't believe anything that comes out of China
shiftyandquick
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Get Off My Lawn said:

I get they you're trying to make SOME kind of a snarky point, but you realize that reporting out of China will be highly suspect no matter which way it points, right?
You are correct, that there is no data that the deniers will accept. No matter where it comes from, China or not.
Bird Poo
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We're you one of the people posting videos of people falling over dead in China back in February of 2020?
Whirligigs
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Time to resurrect the original fear porn thread back in 2019/2020 where folks were claiming 10s to 100s of millions dead.
1872walker
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shiftyandquick said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

I get they you're trying to make SOME kind of a snarky point, but you realize that reporting out of China will be highly suspect no matter which way it points, right?
You are correct, that there is no data that the deniers will accept. No matter where it comes from, China or not.


Why do you deny the scientific evidence we have here in the United States? A majority of Covid deaths are the vaccinated. Studies have shown that these vaccines do not prevent transmission.
redcrayon
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shiftyandquick said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

I get they you're trying to make SOME kind of a snarky point, but you realize that reporting out of China will be highly suspect no matter which way it points, right?
You are correct, that there is no data that the deniers will accept. No matter where it comes from, China or not.
How many total COVID shots have you taken?
ProgN
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It's a shot, not a vaccine. HTH
My Name Is Judge
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Sounds like hoax virus is about to get blamed for chicomm population control


I guess handing out cigarettes to citizens wasn't quite effective enough
Stat Monitor Repairman
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So covid is back?

Let me know.
Dimebag Darrell
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Maybe related, maybe not...but imagine how many peoples' immune systems have suffered in places that did hard lockdowns and prolonged heavy Covid protection protocol, like China.

I am what is considered an "anti-vaxxer" to most liberals, because I trusted my own immune system and am very against mandates, but i concede that it might be good for the elderly to get. But I don't know for sure...I do know two fully vaxxed people in their 60's who almost died and spent a long time in ICU with complications from Covid.
dreyOO
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Natural immunity for the win.

And the chinese leadership are probably happy to kill off so many older folks that they don't have to support anymore. Never forget they're evil.
Dimebag Darrell
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My Name Is Judge said:

Sounds like hoax virus is about to get blamed for chicomm population control


I guess handing out cigarettes to citizens wasn't quite effective enough
Ironically, I kind of wonder if cigarettes help protect people from severe infection. I remember studies coming out of Europe in 2020 indicating that regular smokers were significantly under-represented in the hospital and ICU visits there.
TresPuertas
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shiftyandquick said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

I get they you're trying to make SOME kind of a snarky point, but you realize that reporting out of China will be highly suspect no matter which way it points, right?
You are correct, that there is no data that the deniers will accept. No matter where it comes from, China or not.


us deniers have reality on our side. you have Chinese run state propaganda media. you may want to sit this one out
RedHand
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shiftyandquick said:

Where only about 25% of the elderly are vaccinated, and those guys got a vaccine that the West says is inferior to the mRNA vaccines.

So here you go. We get to see whether not being vaccinated is an advantage for the elderly, as you guys claim.


Way to try and rewrite the narrative to prove a point. The data shows the elderly are way more susceptible to COVID so anyone paying attention knows that. How about we look at the data for all age groups not just the elderly. This assumes you can actually get legit data out of China.
BadMoonRisin
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No one here has cared about the China virus in years. Go away.
TX04Aggie
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IDGAF about China or vaccines. Why does anyone care at this point? Move on..
Robert L. Peters
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You ever notice how great communism is until it's not? Poor people. I hate despotism.
Rapier108
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Take it to F84.
Bazooka Joe
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I've never had a problem volunteering for the jab. Especially if you're in a high risk demographic like the elderly. What I have a problem with is being mandated to take a shot when there is no evidence of the shot's efficacy, that those in low risk categories have a higher rate of a negative shot reaction than Covid, and when simple, historically vetted therapeutics are given no benefit of the doubt of helping at much lower price point and side effect occurrence.

Funny I've never denied any vaccination until now, but am now considered categorically an anti-vaxer.
ttu_85
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shiftyandquick said:

Where only about 25% of the elderly are vaccinated, and those guys got a vaccine that the West says is inferior to the mRNA vaccines.

So here you go. We get to see whether not being vaccinated is an advantage for the elderly, as you guys claim.


A "I love science lib" that doesnt know science.

Uh the strains hitting today are not as deadly as the initial A and Delta variants of 2020. And the US population has much more natural immunity than does the sheltered and oppressed Chinese pop. They are not comparable circumstances. And are Chinese elderly generally in the same general health as Americans of the same age. I doubt it. So many easy flaws in your goofy case.

But carry on with your false mismashed narrative.
ProgN
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Rapier108 said:

Take it to F84.
A Branch Covidian saw it's shadow so we have 6 more years of covid.
Get Off My Lawn
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TX04Aggie said:

IDGAF about China or vaccines. Why does anyone care at this point? Move on..
At a domestic level? Because it could be a big hiccup to supply and manufacturing.
twilly
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Doesn't China only have like 10 reported deaths from Covid? This is just regressing to the mean.

Ranger fans you're not dreaming! The Rangers are the World Series Champions!
Ag87H2O
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shiftyandquick said:

Where only about 25% of the elderly are vaccinated, and those guys got a vaccine that the West says is inferior to the mRNA vaccines.

So here you go. We get to see whether not being vaccinated is an advantage for the elderly, as you guys claim.


Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice - shame on me.

Newsflash - the Chinese are liars. Covid fear mongering isn't going to work any more.
Mr President Elect
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Odd numbers he chose there seeing as:

China population = 1.41 billion

World Population = 7.84 billion

1.41B x 60% > 7.84 B x 10%
Fireman
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Nothing Ivermectin wouldn't cure in a few days. Sad the lefties in bed with the pharmaceutical companies keep denying the effectiveness of the solution. Lot of dead folks at the hands of Fauci, WHO, CDC and others.
01agtx
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I do not give a **** if the vaccine works or not. Wouldn't call myself a vaccine denier. I don't want it and won't be taking it. It could do a great job at preventing Covid and I still wouldn't want it.
fullback44
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OP is all about heart problems and strokes .. I'll pass
Ags4DaWin
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1) No information comes put of China without being first washed to fit the CCP message- whatever that is. Whatever they let out is not the truth.

2) Noone denied that the vaccine might be beneficial for the elderly who are most vulnerable and for whom an additional 10 years of life even if there are side effects would be a good thing.

The problem is when you talk about young healthy individuals for whom COVID is the equivalent of the flu and these young individuals who could fully recover from COVID instead potentially having to deal with long term side effects from a vaccine they didn't need.

Between a 84% increased risk of a massive coronary and a case of the sniffles which has a .006% chance of killing me, I take the sniffles.

Between Bell's Palsy and case of the sniffles which has a .006% chance of killing me, I take the sniffles.

Between rheumatoid arthritis case of the sniffles which has a .006% chance of killing me, I take the sniffles.

It really is a no brainer when you do the odds for young people.

Sorry that you can't do the math.
AgNav93
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Why are some people so obsessed with keeping this going? If you want to live your life in fear do so. Leave the rest of us alone. **** off already.
Pookers
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AgNav93 said:

Why are some people so obsessed with keeping this going? If you want live your life in fear do so. Leave the rest of alone. **** off already.


They know they ****ed up by participating in a medical experiment and rather than admitting they got duped they double down. Its sad. We will never see justice over this debacle.
Easy 8
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shiftyandquick said:

Where only about 25% of the elderly are vaccinated, and those guys got a vaccine that the West says is inferior to the mRNA vaccines.

So here you go. We get to see whether not being vaccinated is an advantage for the elderly, as you guys claim.

This CNN article from 7/7/22 says that the number is much higher than that:

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But the vaccination rate among the elderly is lower. As of April, 80% of Beijing residents over 60 had been vaccinated, state news agency Xinhua reported.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/china/china-covid-beijing-vaccine-mandate-intl-hnk/index.html
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