Hmm. Actual poison? If this claim which keeps getting stronger of late holds, hopefully any lost eventually impose consequences.BigRobSA said:
All of it, titan. First dose to most recent, all for something almost 100% survivable by most of humanity.
titan said:Hmm. Actual poison? If this claim which keeps getting stronger of late holds, hopefully any eventually impose consequences.BigRobSA said:
All of it, titan. First dose to most recent, all for something almost 100% survivable by most of humanity.
I haven't seen it, but apparently you have. Can you summarize the parts that are not true?Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
If you believe the movie, you're as bad as the vaxxers.
What are some of the side effects alleged -- something more than the usual (probably valid) worries about myocardial disorder and damaged heart events that even known posters here have mentioned getting after getting the vax.PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
titan said:What are some of the side effects alleged -- something more than the usual (probably valid) worries about myocardial disorder and damaged heart events that even known posters here have mentioned getting after getting the vax.PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
Its easy to explain that. Institutions that did nothing but lie about events from 2009 to 2020 were pushing hard on it after an initial and short period of `bipartisan' concern. So to those who walk lockstep with the `inner coup' against 45 its just as much gospel as it is totally unreliable bunk from tyrants on the anti-Left side. Its a consequence also of the `rules for thee, not for me' behavior, not unlike climate change.pagerman @ work said:
More than seemingly any other subject, no one leaves whatever camp they have dug themselves into (and did so almost immediately) over covid. It's really fascinating.
BigRobSA said:titan said:Hmm. Actual poison? If this claim which keeps getting stronger of late holds, hopefully any eventually impose consequences.BigRobSA said:
All of it, titan. First dose to most recent, all for something almost 100% survivable by most of humanity.
Can't. Trump made sure of that.
Understood. If that is the "only" main side-effect, it would be disguised in much older people by the fact that blood clots and strokes are so common they would not seem especially likely to tie to the vaxes. But its just another reason unless one of those outlier particular cases, no one under 40 should fool with it.bayareaag17 said:titan said:What are some of the side effects alleged -- something more than the usual (probably valid) worries about myocardial disorder and damaged heart events that even known posters here have mentioned getting after getting the vax.PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
Blood clots. Hits younger people harder hence why I didn't get the jab. I'm 27 for reference. Still haven't gotten covid lol
Yeah, heart issues, blood clots and strokes seem to be short term issues at least for now. Sudden death might be more mid term issues, possibly caused by vax caused blood clots.titan said:What are some of the side effects alleged -- something more than the usual (probably valid) worries about myocardial disorder and damaged heart events that even known posters here have mentioned getting after getting the vax.PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
pagerman @ work said:
More than seemingly any other subject, no one leaves whatever camp they have dug themselves into (and did so almost immediately) over covid. It's really fascinating.
Buck Turgidson said:
https://truthsocial.com/@TrueGenFlynn/posts/109384842642806383
All vaccine makers for all vaccines are shielded from side effect lawsuits.C@LAg said:he is talking (although in a ****ty way) about the fact that the Trump admin gave the vaccine makers immunity from lawsuits over side effects from the vaccine, under the PREP act.My Name Is Judge said:BigRobSA said:
Can't. Trump made sure of that.
Trump made sure he broke you too
Another huge success by Trump
The immunity lasts until 2024.
PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
C@LAg said:that is absolutely incorrect.agracer said:All vaccine makers for all vaccines are shielded from side effect lawsuits.C@LAg said:he is talking (although in a ****ty way) about the fact that the Trump admin gave the vaccine makers immunity from lawsuits over side effects from the vaccine, under the PREP act.My Name Is Judge said:BigRobSA said:
Can't. Trump made sure of that.
Trump made sure he broke you too
Another huge success by Trump
The immunity lasts until 2024.
If issued under PREP guidelines, sure, for a limited period of time.
That's a very good question. When vaccines were found to be `bad' or prone to side-effects (like the one under President Ford's time maybe?) -what was the interval you usually have before learned of downstream effects vs an immediate toxic reaction like an allergic one?unmade bed said:PCC_80 said:
The vax was not approved for use until late Nov 2020 and distribution did not really get ramped up to 1M shots a day until late Jan 2021. We are not even at the 2 year mark of wide distribution. The rest of the world is a few months behind us. We are also giving multiple boosters of these vaxes which may be a huge mistake.
I am guessing that long term side effects start appearing in large numbers in about 2 1/2 - 3 years after exposure. The next 1 1/2 years might be terribly sad if these are truly side effects of the vaxes.
Just curious as to what you are basing your 2 1/2 - 3 year time frame for long term side effects to show up from the vaccine? Any historical data that would suggest that any kind of vaccine (even those going through the usual trials) results in "long term" effects appearing 2-3 years post vaccine? Any biological rationale as to why this vaccine would have such a delayed time frame for side effects to appear?