Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

80% of statistics are made up. 75% of the population knows that.

Edit: Terminate the Department of Education, for starters. That's a states issue.

I'm fine with doing to the government what Elon Musk just did to Twitter.

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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If you were serious you would realize these people have no chance of learning to code. They literally are not intellectually capable of it. There is a reason they work for the government, and it isn't because of the pension.

Why just 35%? Every bureaucrat is doing a job which is unconstitutional and unfathomable to the founders.

Why do "conservatives" insist on being progressives who are driving the speed limit?

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/introduction-to-the-federal-budget-process

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Spending. Federal spending is classified in two basic categories: mandatory and discretionary. About 63 percent of the federal budget is mandatory spending, 30 percent is discretionary spending, and the rest is interest payments on debt

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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If you were serious you would realize these people have no chance of learning to code. They literally are not intellectually capable of it. There is a reason they work for the government, and it isn't because of the pension.

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Speaking for the defense side, there are 40+ yr employees that know how to do one thing and one thing only. Except that one thing is horribly inefficient and yet, we cannot move on as a whole to better ways because……..the old guard cannot/will not adapt. We are just now truly phasing over to the digital and standardized world. I am personally working on some of this transition. It is painful how outdated the government is in some regards and the absolute loggerheads that appear when you try to change things.

There are some extremely overpaid individuals that not only don't contribute but actively bog down real productivity. They would not make it in the world today and only survive because they got in during the simple times and can't be fired now.

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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I disagree. Cut 70-80% at the federal, state, and local levels. All bureaucrats do is impede/disrupt/stop progress of the productive class of citizens so that they can show that their "job" is warranted.

Texas Yarddog said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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I disagree. Cut 70-80% at the federal, state, and local levels. All bureaucrats do is impede/disrupt/stop progress of the productive class of citizens so that they can show that their "job" is warranged.

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I don't understand why conservatives can't get this. The only people who should be employed by the state should be elected officials, and even some of those people….

Yep. Other than defense (which is Constiutional).

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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I disagree. Cut 70-80% at the federal, state, and local levels. All bureaucrats do is impede/disrupt/stop progress of the productive class of citizens so that they can show that their "job" is warranged.

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I don't understand why ANYONE can't get this. The only people who should be employed by the state should be elected officials, and even some of those people….

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Now correct.

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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I disagree. Cut 70-80% at the federal, state, and local levels. All bureaucrats do is impede/disrupt/stop progress of the productive class of citizens so that they can show that their "job" is warranged.

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I don't understand why ANYONE can't get this. The only people who should be employed by the state should be elected officials, and even some of those people….

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Now correct.

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Lol, fair, but liberals have been trying to grow the size and scope of government forever. It just makes no sense for the supposed small government party to believe any of these made up positions are ok.

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

B-1 83 said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

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1. There is no Chinese threat in terms of an attack on American soil.

2. Cutting large costs from the military would bring troops home and close bases in foreign countries which we have no business occupying (any country other than our own).

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

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Such a freaking non-starter. OP could cut 35% of the feds and not touch either of those two Constitutional entites.

Ok fine. If we are worried about the olds who can't code, freeze hiring across the board. Then as people retire only hire 1 for every 4 retirees. You just gradually cut 75% of government jobs. Except no new education hiring and do 1 in 2 defense. Defense needs to shrink but not like some departments.


Or just gut the fish now…

A 5% cut across the board across all government agencies over two years and a 1% cut every year for the next 5 would be a very modest and very easy action to take. It would also only mildly slow the growth of our debt.

That it will never happen tells you all you need to know about where we are headed.

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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even if you include the military, your numbers are RADICALLY understated.

when this was america, less than 1% of employees took government paychecks. now it is over 35%.

NOT KIDDING - NINETY FIVE PERCENT OF ALL FEDEERAL EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE TERMINATED IMMEDIATELY.

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B-1 83 said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

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Such a freaking non-starter. OP could cut 35% of the feds and not touch either of those two Constitutional entites.

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Oh…….so it's just throw out the ones we don't like or don't really know what they do. Got it.

By the way, the other cabinets are constitutional according to Article 2 Section 2.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

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Such a freaking non-starter. OP could cut 35% of the feds and not touch either of those two Constitutional entites.

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Oh…….so it's just throw we don't like or don't really know what they do. Got it.

By the way, the other cabinets are constitutional according to Article 2 Section 2.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

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You can throw a dart at any random 35% of spending and whatever is cut will lead to more freedom for Americans..

Literally 25% of federal employees think:

There are over 100 bureaucratic agencies, every one of which exists outside the Constution.

You know one of those agencies? Retired Railroad Engineers Agency. Yup, that exists. Oh, and they have a federally licensed law enforcement unit that is armed. Becauae...things.

Combined those agencies have over 200k firearms, fight tooth and nail to prevent any records and statistics to be kept on their "law enforcement" activities and have over 5mm rounds of ammo in inventory. And every year they get more of each.

City of Houston has 20,000+ employees. I think we can cut that to 2,000 without issues.

Of those 20,000, not a single one thought about parking the fleet of city vehicles above basement level during Harvey.

I retired from the railroad tell me more, never heard of this agency?

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There are over 100 bureaucratic agencies, every one of which exists outside the Constution.

You know one of those agencies? Retired Railroad Engineers Agency. Yup, that exists. Oh, and they have a federally licensed law enforcement unit that is armed. Becauae...things.

Combined those agencies have over 200k firearms, fight tooth and nail to prevent any records and statistics to be kept on their "law enforcement" activities and have over 5mm rounds of ammo in inventory. And every year they get more of each.

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No they don't. SCOTUS and the Constitution say so. People spout this drivel on here all the time with zero court or Constitutional backing. It just sounds good.

It does seem to get quite a bit out of line when the spider web of sub agencies is examined, but they do exist, and far greater courts than F16 have said it's fine.
https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

There are nearly 8 million US Federal employees! Thats about 2.5% of our total population! 2.5M direct (excluding 1.3M military) and 5.3M on contract. That's a damn big Swamp for any President to drain.

I wish we could elect Elon and he could go all Twitter on that Fed ass.

I would say that number is closer to 95% and even that's a generous number

I'm being serious

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I wish we could elect Elon and he could go all Twitter on that Fed ass.

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Exactly. The stories about Twitter employees goofing off are nothing compared to Federal employees. If covid 19 proved nothing else, it showed us that the government can operate with significantly less staff

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80% of statistics are made up. 75% of the population knows that.

Edit: Terminate the Department of Education, for starters. That's a states issue.

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Couldnt star this enough. Yet another mistake created by Jimmy ****ing Carter.

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GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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With the Chinese threat, don't you think cutting the military 35% is a bad idea? Cutting CBP doesn't seem like a winner, either.

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Such a freaking non-starter. OP could cut 35% of the feds and not touch either of those two Constitutional entites.

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Oh…….so it's just throw out the ones we don't like or don't really know what they do. Got it.

By the way, the other cabinets are constitutional according to Article 2 Section 2.

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

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No it's throw out the ones that shouldnt be a federal concern or promote federal over reach. Example, education is more of a distric/state matter then it is a federal matter.

GenericAggie said:

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Fire 35% of the federal government over the next 5 years.

That 35% can go fill the needed roles in corporate America. The can learn to code.

I'm being serious.

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Make 35% of Fed workers into contracted positions, then do not renew their contracts.

'Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare...'

We surpassed this measure many, many moons ago and now we are stuck until cataclysm.

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There are over 100 bureaucratic agencies, every one of which exists outside the Constution.

You know one of those agencies? Retired Railroad Engineers Agency. Yup, that exists. Oh, and they have a federally licensed law enforcement unit that is armed. Becauae...things.

Combined those agencies have over 200k firearms, fight tooth and nail to prevent any records and statistics to be kept on their "law enforcement" activities and have over 5mm rounds of ammo in inventory. And every year they get more of each.

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No they don't. SCOTUS and the Constitution say so. People spout this drivel on here all the time with zero court or Constitutional backing. It just sounds good.

It does seem to get quite a bit out of line when the spider web of sub agencies is examined, but they do exist, and far greater courts than F16 have said it's fine.
https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

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The administrative agencies and bureaucracies are not "cabinet" positions as you keep linking. They are areas where congress relinquished their power to the executive; something that was not supposed to be allowed and the founders would find abhorrent.

Also SCOTUS has said you could own people, you have a right to murder babies, and gays have a right to marry. It doesn't make it true.