Gen Z doesn't respond well to screaming. God help us if this is true.

Passive-aggressive drill sergeants. Throwing shade at all the new recruits.

What are they supposed to do? Body shame them or gaslight them on InstaFace?

We are really relying on a lot of expensive high tech and equipment to somewhat make up the difference and do fighting for us in the future. But with these trends suspect will get clocked in the initial rounds of the first major next war despite all that. Gimmicks usually don't do the trick and the next one always starts with something out of the box rather than fighting the war you planned for.

I entered Army Basic Training in 1976 and still remember it like it was yesterday to include my Drill Sergeants.

It is something that can never be forgotten.

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I entered Army Basic Training in 1976 and still remember it like it was yesterday to include my Drill Sergeants.

It is something that can never be forgotten.

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If you have never caught a flying foot locker to the chest or choked out with a forearm (therefore bypassing hands on recruits), have you even lived???

Big Money Aggie said:

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Gen Z doesn't respond well to screaming. God help us if this is true.

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The saddest thing of all, is that this move was probably necessary on the macro level. I don't think most here truly realize how bad the recruiting situation is right now or what it truly means to our nation. It's bad. Just bad all around. And the pool of prospective recruits shrinks more and more every year. That is not hyperbole.

Ergo, we have to cater to what we can so we can push numbers. More than a few recruits wash out because of the "harshness" of basic training and can't handle it. This will keep more of them in. This is a rob peter to pay Paul move and it sucks for the future but to shore up numbers in the here and now…. This is a valid strategy IMO. As painful as it is to see. Stuff like this happens periodically to boost numbers. Standards ebb and flow to accommodate the overall numbers. I enlisted right after Fallujah II and the standards were being dumped across the board. Had to fill dead boots after all. So what if you have trouble counting to one hundred. Don't need that to hump a rifle across the sands. Then the USMC got its entire force chopped a few years ago and they were forcing people out over the smallest things that would have been laughed at a decade prior.

It's all about the numbers. Always has been.

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We are really relying on a lot of expensive high tech and equipment to somewhat make up the difference and do fighting for us in the future. But with these trends suspect will get clocked in the initial rounds of the first major next war despite all that. Gimmicks usually don't do the trick and the next one always starts with something out of the box rather than fighting the war you planned for.

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Our saving grace remains geography. If our high tech stuff gets neutralized - we still are nearly impossible to invade for a hostile army because everything has to come by ocean or through Mexican choke points.

When you think of it - it's actually pretty funny that the country with the most powerful military is in such little (comparative) need of it.

When someday real fighting men/women are needed, there will be some very Non PC folks currently in the 'Don't Break Glass Unless Fire" boxes released pronto. Like a previous poster said, it's numbers. The future 'numbers' are going to be tragic. These current DoD pansies are going to get lots of kids killed.

The force is increasingly reliant on tech as Titan noted but the other key element is special operators. While most of Gen Z is squarely in the "good times make weak men" category those that aren't are going to end up carrying the load for the rest of their peers as we rely on them more than we should.

As noted right now our geography is out greatest defensive weapon.

Can we make the bullets, explosions, and enemies trying to kill our men a little more passive aggressive so not to hurt feelings?

You gotta be ****ing me

It's Basic COMBAT Training!

COMBAT is stressful

The enemy does not care that you are tired, or stressed or your feelings are triggered

If you don't want to die or get your buddies killed, you must perform at a high level of proficiency while under stress that will make a guy screaming at you and throwing trash cans seem like a day at Chuck E Chesse in comparison

At this point it's pretty clear the goal is to make our military more and more ineffective until they can justify scrapping it altogether so they can spend that money on leftist BS graft projects instead

I don't have a problem with de-emphasizing it when it isn't useful to the training but there are going to be times when volume is necessary or is the best tool for the moment, such as a noisy environment, addressing large groups or instructing at a distance, or to emphasize a particular point. Removing a tool from the box entirely is stupid policy.

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Big Money Aggie said:

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Gen Z doesn't respond well to screaming. God help us if this is true.

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The saddest thing of all, is that this move was probably necessary on the macro level. I don't think most here truly realize how bad the recruiting situation is right now or what it truly means to our nation. It's bad. Just bad all around. And the pool of prospective recruits shrinks more and more every year. That is not hyperbole.

Ergo, we have to cater to what we can so we can push numbers. More than a few recruits wash out because of the "harshness" of basic training and can't handle it. This will keep more of them in. This is a rob peter to pay Paul move and it sucks for the future but to shore up numbers in the here and now…. This is a valid strategy IMO. As painful as it is to see. Stuff like this happens periodically to boost numbers. Standards ebb and flow to accommodate the overall numbers. I enlisted right after Fallujah II and the standards were being dumped across the board. Had to fill dead boots after all. So what if you have trouble counting to one hundred. Don't need that to hump a rifle across the sands. Then the USMC got its entire force chopped a few years ago and they were forcing people out over the smallest things that would have been laughed at a decade prior.

It's all about the numbers. Always has been.

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None of this matters, why would a white man go into the military now when there is zero chance he will be promoted and he will always have to work under less qualified minorities? I cannot imagine why any white family would push their sons to go into the military at this point. The country doesn't want them but it sure wants them to act as cannon fodder.

https://texags.com/forums/63/topics/2131016

No more smokey the bear hats at FOW?

no idea what reality of training policy is, but the dude in the OP video is about as intimidating as a wet fart and sounds like a moron. i had 19 year old pissheads who were scarier.

Sure because getting shot at or bombarded is way easier to take than someone yelling at you.

We really are soft as a society. My wife was reading to me from Next Door neighbor from ladies complaining that there was voter intimidation at our local early voting place. After getting quizzed enough the ladies admitted that they were talked to by campaign workers in the parking lot (like all of us were). But they were intimidated.

Sure hope the Marine Corps holds tight on their basic training traditions.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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Eliminatus said:

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Big Money Aggie said:

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Gen Z doesn't respond well to screaming. God help us if this is true.

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The saddest thing of all, is that this move was probably necessary on the macro level. I don't think most here truly realize how bad the recruiting situation is right now or what it truly means to our nation. It's bad. Just bad all around. And the pool of prospective recruits shrinks more and more every year. That is not hyperbole.

Ergo, we have to cater to what we can so we can push numbers. More than a few recruits wash out because of the "harshness" of basic training and can't handle it. This will keep more of them in. This is a rob peter to pay Paul move and it sucks for the future but to shore up numbers in the here and now…. This is a valid strategy IMO. As painful as it is to see. Stuff like this happens periodically to boost numbers. Standards ebb and flow to accommodate the overall numbers. I enlisted right after Fallujah II and the standards were being dumped across the board. Had to fill dead boots after all. So what if you have trouble counting to one hundred. Don't need that to hump a rifle across the sands. Then the USMC got its entire force chopped a few years ago and they were forcing people out over the smallest things that would have been laughed at a decade prior.

It's all about the numbers. Always has been.

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None of this matters, why would a white man go into the military now when there is zero chance he will be promoted and he will always have to work under less qualified minorities? I cannot imagine why any white family would push their sons to go into the military at this point. The country doesn't want them but it sure wants them to act as cannon fodder.

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Exactly! Why would anyone want to sign up for woke crap show!

If you are a straight white male especially why would you ever want to enter this work crap show!

Discrimination is perfectly acceptable against white people in the military.

A friend of mine is a drill sergeant at Fort Jackson right now. Yes, they can still yell and be intimidating. It's just not pushed as the primary way to bring attention or drive training. The video is click bait.

On the enlisted side, being white will not affect promotion in any meaningful way since 2020.