Cancer vaccine could be available before 2030, says scientist couple behind COVID-19 shot.

But will it be "free" and "effective"?

Consider me a hard no for the first 20 years or so.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cancer-vaccine-could-available-2030-151651290.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACKw8dR4nimPgwvHRIgRdUiVy67bfokXoEgSkpHd7maE-pRswzDpEjS6sXI7nEYjWTlo1oyMT7F1TPRKLSj8MEyQqlEvZybah7l3gBC5bV-swRUW5vMLlNX0benMuTpdE0YKUOTVDOPVFzRwrJPsYIQYGhUIDtPhcLQOZpYY6nmd

So it's going to make cancer more likely but less severe?

Say the line

& We already know who will be pimping that product as nauseam on this board

Say the Line!!!!



Fortunately I got the vaccine and only have a 1 in 5 chance of dying from cancer...

Given the fact there are dozens if not hundreds of types of cancer, there is no way to develop a "vaccine" for all of them at once.

In the end, it will probably cause new types of cancer.

already seen that movie, thats a no from me dawg.

Kinda already doing it for dogs a company called FidoCure

Won't be much of anything I voluntarily take going forward that hasn't been long established, or if I'm already terminal.

Rapier108 said:

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Given the fact there are dozens if not hundreds of types of cancer, there is no way to develop a "vaccine" for all of them at once.

In the end, it will probably cause new types of cancer.

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THIS. Its another version of the problem about claims of "the vax does this or that" ---- there are THREE, maybe FOUR vaccine types, and actually none fit the definition of vaccine, but are more like shots. So the collective phrasing itself is always a bit of a flag imo.

A genuine thing is going to have a specific.

Eso si, Que es said:

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already seen that movie, thats a no from me dawg.

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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The pharmaceutical companies and politicians that pushed this nonsense, and would have HAPPILY destroyed my life by getting me fired from work are not the "medical community".

Wonder why they lost my respect. It's a mystery.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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Sure. I've been to all kinds of docs in the last two years for other stuff unrelated to COVID, but you can't ignore the idiocracy of the medical community during the same time period. Our disdain is justified.

• COVID lies and the blind adherence to something we didn't know that much about even after admittance of said lies.
• Telling us that leftists and BLM protesting can't lead to COVID while simultaneously proclaiming conservatives and whites gathering can kill you.
• The Minnesota School of Medicine thread posted today.

Just a few examples. The trends are not good, buddy.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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Ask the countless who have died or been hospitalized by "safe, effective and free" that will never be recognized

While the technology is largely the same for the therapeutic approaches, this kind of application is fundamentally different from the Covid vaccine.

(1) this is intended to be individualized to a patient. Not the same as a one-sized fits all shot that is out of date by the time it's available and only really works because you gamed the hell out of the endpoints and used slight of hand wording to hope people didn't notice.

(2) if you have a terminal illness, your risk/benefit profile is not even in the same galaxy as a healthy 25 year old with Covid.

The problem is not really the scientists or even the Pharma company in my opinion. The problem is what government, public health authorities, and corporate and social media companies tried to do to people asking legitimate questions.

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Hey guys. On a serious note. My nephew is a doc at MD Anderson in Houston. When all the mRNA vaccine talk came out he said they had been using some mRNA vaccine for the past 12 years as a prophylactic to some types of lymphoma cancers and have had great results from it without any known bad effects.
I remember some Ag doc talked about it on one of the forums seems like.
Wonder if this has something to do with that?
Turns out one of my employees has had the regiment of those vaccines from MDA treating his lymphoma cancer. He has been cancer free now going on 10 years.
Who knows.

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The problem is that the medical profession went all in on COVID, which the deep state used released as a population control disease and they endorsed it. It is normal for people to feel scorned and betrayed when they see the consequences of the mRNA vaccine for COVID causing significant side effects. Women's menstruation cycles are jacked up, the vaxxed are getting COVID at a faster pace than the unvaxxed now, there are many reported and even more unreported cases of heart inflammation and myocarditis among the vaxxed. So, their credibility is shot for anything mRNA moving forward, and I would argue, many will refuse basic vaccines because of the trust breach between the people and their government. Sad day indeed...

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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I trust only surgeons now. They are the only ones practicing medicine, the rest just do whatever the pharma companies tell them to do.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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I've never had the flu, I only had one comorbidity, and there was no way I was getting a vaccine developed in that short of a time since my risk profile was so low for a virus that was very benign for a vast majority of the population. The fact it was pushed on a lot of people similar to me is a problem from the medical community.

On the other hand, my mom went through a pretty big bout with skin cancer through all the covid mess and after two surgeries she got on a program of immunotherapy that has done wonders which likely would have removed the need to cut on her face. So yes, I'm open to alternatives, but I'm also not going to take everything pitched by the medical community as gospel.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

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So… yeah unfortunately that's not an option. It'll be a requirement.

riverrataggie said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

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So… yeah unfortunately that's not an option. It'll be a requirement.

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Yeah - pretty rich for that little jackboot to say "just don't get it" after spending years trying to punish and ostracize folks from society for not taking every Covid shot his team deemed necessary.

"The cancer vaccine, which would build upon breakthroughs achieved by the scientists during the development of the COVID-19 shot, may be widely available within just eight years, said Professor Ugur Sahin."

I don't know what they mean by the above, but the small company my wife works for is in year 8 of FDA trials/approval for a mRNA inoculation (by today's standards: vaccine) for ewing's sarcoma, a bone cancer that mostly affects children...so the technology has existed for over a decade, and the mechanism could be applied to any type of cancer, that's just the one they are doing trials with. It is a similar mechanism to the COVID vax.

It was what made us very wary of the covid vax from the beginning because we had been so close to the years of testing and the specific concerns with mRNA injection that won't be hashed out until years after inoculation. There have been real issues with reverse transcriptases kicking into gear years later with persistent foreign genetic material (and this is with mRNA that is far far more specified than the broad concoction used in the covid vax) and causing problems. Of course the concern for future health issues isn't weighted as hard for a kid dying of terminal bone cancer.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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you don't understand the disdain for the medical
community? have you been living under a rock?

let me take a guess you have taken the covid vaccine?

people have lost their jobs etc because medical
doctors are just as big of sheep as anyone else they are just paid better for peddling the pharmaceuticals. no profession has lost more credibility than the medical profession in the last couple of years. well maybe president since biden took office but that's a different topic.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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riverrataggie said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

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So… yeah unfortunately that's not an option. It'll be a requirement.

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Yeah - pretty rich for that little jackboot to say "just don't get it" after spending years trying to punish and ostracize folks from society for not taking every Covid shot his team deemed necessary.

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Jackboot? That's not very nice.

TXAGFAN said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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riverrataggie said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

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So… yeah unfortunately that's not an option. It'll be a requirement.

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Yeah - pretty rich for that little jackboot to say "just don't get it" after spending years trying to punish and ostracize folks from society for not taking every Covid shot his team deemed necessary.

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Jackboot? That's not very nice.

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Well, if the size 9.5 fits you…

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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You mean don't get it until liberals force you to in order to be a member of society?

HowdyTAMU said:

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Cancer vaccine could be available before 2030, says scientist couple behind COVID-19 shot.

But will it be "free" and "effective"?

Consider me a hard no for the first 20 years or so.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cancer-vaccine-could-available-2030-151651290.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACKw8dR4nimPgwvHRIgRdUiVy67bfokXoEgSkpHd7maE-pRswzDpEjS6sXI7nEYjWTlo1oyMT7F1TPRKLSj8MEyQqlEvZybah7l3gBC5bV-swRUW5vMLlNX0benMuTpdE0YKUOTVDOPVFzRwrJPsYIQYGhUIDtPhcLQOZpYY6nmd

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This has been BioNTech's main focus for years.

Y'all need to shut up and get the vaccine so your grandma doesn't get cancer!

BAP Enthusiast said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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I trust only surgeons now. They are the only ones practicing medicine, the rest just do whatever the pharma companies tell them to do.

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Anesthesiologists have got to be the most red pilled people in the medical community.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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Real mystery why we would distrust the intelligentsia that say the best practice for a confused boy is to cut off his dick and call himself a girl.

We trust our doctors. We distrust the "scientific establishment" that has destroyed their credibility over and over again. If they can verifiably prove a vaccine over a long time horizon (which I'm highly skeptical of give the nature of cancer and the aging process), great. Until then, I think I'll err on the side of not giving my wife thalidomide for her morning sickness.

TXAGFAN said:

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Get Off My Lawn said:

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riverrataggie said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

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So… yeah unfortunately that's not an option. It'll be a requirement.

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Yeah - pretty rich for that little jackboot to say "just don't get it" after spending years trying to punish and ostracize folks from society for not taking every Covid shot his team deemed necessary.

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Jackboot? That's not very nice.

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Much nicer than every single living white liberal wanting me fired for trusting my natural immunity and refusing to get a virus.

TXAGFAN said:

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So don't get it.

I don't understand the disdain for medical community on this board - none of you have received a breakthrough medical procedure/drug or sought out a highly regarded specialist? Maybe for a family member if not for yourself.

Seriously, if they're successful for example on a particular cancer (grossly oversimplified) that impacts you or family (eg BRCA gene) at a high rate you won't get it?

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They are liars so...