I have posted critical comments at the bottom of several Zeihan Youtube videos in recent months and those comments were not deleted. Recently I posted another critical response that included a refutation of his pro covid vaccine statements. The comment disappeared wthin seconds. I tried about 4 more times to post the same comment and it was almost instantly deleted each time (didn't even appear in my Youtube account comment history). I couldn't figure out if Zeihan just got tired of my critical comments and banned me from posting any further comments on his videos, or if a Youtube algorithm was doing it because of the anti-vax content. Today I posted a new criticism on one of Zeihans Youtube videos that had nothing to do with the vaccine and it stuck. Therefore, it appears Youtube has algorithms that screen out comments critical of the vaccine. Kudos to Zeihan for taking the criticism, but Youtube can go to Hell.

I stated this elsewhere, but the staggering speed the government has wrecked a good industry (medicine) is amazing.

In eight years, 2014 to 2022, and because of covid, I have just a little more faith in medicine than I do in the alphabet agencies in DC.

From Obamacare in 2014 to telling Facebook (youtube) to create an algorithm to squelch criticism of a vaccine that every day, is revealing more damaging stats. It's pathetic.

And like "most secure election ever" the censorship of reports on the vaccine has had the opposite effect.

Absolutely do not credit those claim it is all legit at all anymore.

Tldr:

YouTube is censoring your comments about the vax (unknown what they are, or why the zohan is relevant).



This is already known and many channels have been tiptoeing around the topic ever since YouTube essentially made it actual policy to punish the channel owners for wrong think.

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Top 10 largest defense contractors in FY2021:
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Lockheed Martin Corp.
Obligations: $40.2B

Boeing Co.
Obligations: $22.1B

Raytheon Technologies Corp.
Obligations: $20.7B

General Dynamics Corp.
Obligations: $17.8B

Pfizer Inc.
Obligations: $13.3B

Northrop Grumman Corp.
Obligations: $12.9B

Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc.
Obligations: $7.4B

Humana Inc.
Obligations: $7.1B

Moderna Inc.
Obligations: $6.9B

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc.
Obligations: $5.6B

[/ol]Bloomberg Link

3 of the top 10 DEFENSE Contractors in 2021 are pharma. Not General Atomics, SAIC, CACI and the rest of them that all support the DoD with actual supplies and ordinance, not jabs. If you don't think these pharma's buy a LOT of influence with YouTube and the rest of social media you are mistaken. WE THE PEOPLE are paying for it.

Wonder if they are also buying a war in Europe?

I usually enjoy Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it in the comments section.

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I usually enjoy of Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it the comments section.

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Oddly enough, Neo-fascist can mean `new fascist' and if you ignore the tendency of Academia-Media to automatically equate it with Hitler, and take a closer look at the other forms, even that term is less negative. He surely intends it as insult but the point is people need to learn that it is the antipode to Marxism, and not automatically the boogeyman. If not mistaken, NYT routinely called Augusto Pinochet fascist for example.

Because most press leans left, and a good bit of it hard left and thus soft on collectivism, it is going to routinely call Nationalism `fascist'. So what saying is, don't automatically associate the word with bad --- these days it is used for Nationalists and populism, both of which are good if you really don't like top-down powerful Leftism.

It is automated. There is literally no way they could police millions of videos and comments in those numbers. They auto delete comments all the time. Specific key words get the boot. Specific statements in videos get demonetized. One issue they have with someone as big as Peter Z is his following will create an uproar if they start shutting him down. I'm sure he will be due for a Jordan Peterson cancellation soon enough. The left can't let him grow influence outside of his books. Same thing they did to Rogan and Elon.

If you speak out and gain influence, they will hammer you with fake accusations. The goal is to keep their side brainwashed. If you offer alternatives you are now their enemy. Russel Brand is another one. I am shocked they haven't gone after Bill Maher heavily with his videos that call the left out.

All in due time.

YouTube censors content and comments that don't match "The Narrative" ?

News at 9!

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I usually enjoy of Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it the comments section.

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Oddly enough, Neo-fascist can mean `new fascist' and if you ignore the tendency of Academia-Media to automatically equate it with Hitler, and take a closer look at the other forms, even that term is less negative. He surely intends it as insult but the point is people need to learn that it is the antipode to Marxism, and not automatically the boogeyman. If not mistaken, NYT routinely called Augusto Pinochet fascist for example.

Because most press leans left, and a good bit of it hard left and thus soft on collectivism, it is going to routinely call Nationalism `fascist'. So what saying is, don't automatically associate the word with bad --- these days it is used for Nationalists and populism, both of which are good if you really don't like top-down powerful Leftism.

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My understanding is that fascism in any form would require an authoritarian element. That's simply not the case with MAGA or Giorgia Meloni's platform.

Whether there are any "nicer" connotations of fascism or not, it is being used exclusively as a pejorative these days, and the label needs to be fought.

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96AgGrad said:

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I usually enjoy of Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it the comments section.

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Oddly enough, Neo-fascist can mean `new fascist' and if you ignore the tendency of Academia-Media to automatically equate it with Hitler, and take a closer look at the other forms, even that term is less negative. He surely intends it as insult but the point is people need to learn that it is the antipode to Marxism, and not automatically the boogeyman. If not mistaken, NYT routinely called Augusto Pinochet fascist for example.

Because most press leans left, and a good bit of it hard left and thus soft on collectivism, it is going to routinely call Nationalism `fascist'. So what saying is, don't automatically associate the word with bad --- these days it is used for Nationalists and populism, both of which are good if you really don't like top-down powerful Leftism.

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My understanding is that fascism in any form would require an authoritarian element. That's simply not the case with MAGA or Giorgia Meloni's platform.

Whether there are any "nicer" connotations of fascism or not, it is being used exclusively as a pejorative these days, and the label needs to be fought.

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Not really. They make you waste time doing that. It needs to be pointed out that the global Left is deliberately labeling Nationalism as fascism, and so the word is approaching the non-relevance of `racism'.

You are right that you don't want to get into "nicer" connotations -- thats more an FYI kind of notation that it should be realized the same ones going on about all these other labels would call Pinochet that. Or even Singapore probably.

But here's the kicker -- by Left standards, with its emphasis on National and family and good values, both MAGA and Meloni's platform do match up to THEIR idea of fascism. The thing is to stop running away from it--- its the old -- did our troops really worry about Islamists calling them `infidels'?

96AgGrad said:

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I usually enjoy Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it in the comments section.

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Saw that, too. Was very surprised by his take and was glad to see him getting called out. He's usually better than that.

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It is automated. There is literally no way they could police millions of videos and comments in those numbers. They auto delete comments all the time. Specific key words get the boot. Specific statements in videos get demonetized. One issue they have with someone as big as Peter Z is his following will create an uproar if they start shutting him down. I'm sure he will be due for a Jordan Peterson cancellation soon enough. The left can't let him grow influence outside of his books. Same thing they did to Rogan and Elon.

If you speak out and gain influence, they will hammer you with fake accusations. The goal is to keep their side brainwashed. If you offer alternatives you are now their enemy. Russel Brand is another one. I am shocked they haven't gone after Bill Maher heavily with his videos that call the left out.

All in due time.

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My friend Rose's son sits in his bedroom and is paid $45k to watch YouTube accounts by Google (You Tube). I can guarantee you it is NOT all automated. I actually know a monitor.

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I usually enjoy Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it in the comments section.

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Saw that, too. Was very surprised by his take and was glad to see him getting called out. He's usually better than that.

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What is the link to this particular Zeihan speech?

You have to consider his perspective. Nationalism as said above for a liberal is strongly associated with fascism. Same reason they do it with MAGA.

Isn't he basically a very intelligent liberal rather than a Leftist, but still of that side of the line?

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I usually enjoy of Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it the comments section.

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Oddly enough, Neo-fascist can mean `new fascist' and if you ignore the tendency of Academia-Media to automatically equate it with Hitler, and take a closer look at the other forms, even that term is less negative. He surely intends it as insult but the point is people need to learn that it is the antipode to Marxism, and not automatically the boogeyman. If not mistaken, NYT routinely called Augusto Pinochet fascist for example.

Because most press leans left, and a good bit of it hard left and thus soft on collectivism, it is going to routinely call Nationalism `fascist'. So what saying is, don't automatically associate the word with bad --- these days it is used for Nationalists and populism, both of which are good if you really don't like top-down powerful Leftism.

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My understanding is that fascism in any form would require an authoritarian element. That's simply not the case with MAGA or Giorgia Meloni's platform.

Whether there are any "nicer" connotations of fascism or not, it is being used exclusively as a pejorative these days, and the label needs to be fought.

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Not really. They make you waste time doing that. It needs to be pointed out that the global Left is deliberately labeling Nationalism as fascism, and so the word is approaching the non-relevance of `racism'.

You are right that you don't want to get into "nicer" connotations -- thats more an FYI kind of notation that it should be realized the same ones going on about all these other labels would call Pinochet that. Or even Singapore probably.

But here's the kicker -- by Left standards, with its emphasis on National and family and good values, both MAGA and Meloni's platform do match up to THEIR idea of fascism. The thing is to stop running away from it--- its the old -- did our troops really worry about Islamists calling them `infidels'?

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I guess I'm missing out on some nuance. The left would have everyone believe that our populists are the equivalent of Nazis or Mussolini. Whether that is THE definition or not, it will become the definition if left unchallenged. If totalitarianism is the extreme left, and anarchy is the extreme right, fascism by my understanding is authoritarian and would be closer to the left end of the spectrum.

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96AgGrad said:

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I usually enjoy of Peter Zeihan's takes on world politics, but his latest from earlier today was absolute garbage. He casually calls Giorgia Meloni a far-right "neo-fascist" without any supporting definitions or references,

He is getting called out for it the comments section.

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Oddly enough, Neo-fascist can mean `new fascist' and if you ignore the tendency of Academia-Media to automatically equate it with Hitler, and take a closer look at the other forms, even that term is less negative. He surely intends it as insult but the point is people need to learn that it is the antipode to Marxism, and not automatically the boogeyman. If not mistaken, NYT routinely called Augusto Pinochet fascist for example.

Because most press leans left, and a good bit of it hard left and thus soft on collectivism, it is going to routinely call Nationalism `fascist'. So what saying is, don't automatically associate the word with bad --- these days it is used for Nationalists and populism, both of which are good if you really don't like top-down powerful Leftism.

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My understanding is that fascism in any form would require an authoritarian element. That's simply not the case with MAGA or Giorgia Meloni's platform.

Whether there are any "nicer" connotations of fascism or not, it is being used exclusively as a pejorative these days, and the label needs to be fought.

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Not really. They make you waste time doing that. It needs to be pointed out that the global Left is deliberately labeling Nationalism as fascism, and so the word is approaching the non-relevance of `racism'.

You are right that you don't want to get into "nicer" connotations -- thats more an FYI kind of notation that it should be realized the same ones going on about all these other labels would call Pinochet that. Or even Singapore probably.

But here's the kicker -- by Left standards, with its emphasis on National and family and good values, both MAGA and Meloni's platform do match up to THEIR idea of fascism. The thing is to stop running away from it--- its the old -- did our troops really worry about Islamists calling them `infidels'?

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I guess I'm missing out on some nuance. The left would have everyone believe that our populists are the equivalent of Nazis or Mussolini. Whether that is THE definition or not, it will become the definition if left unchallenged. If totalitarianism is the extreme left, and anarchy is the extreme right, fascism by my understanding is authoritarian and would be closer to the left end of the spectrum.

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This keeps being gone over, and that is actually part of the real `nuance'. The nuance is simple: the National minded Right needs to start treating the "fascism" label the way it sees the `racist' or `white supremacist' label now. Simply a pigeon-holing word their fundamental opposition, the Left, and quasi-Maoists, whatever, use. Especially academics and press. You can never `fight back' against the term, any more than when Wallace basically called Trump a white supremacist out of thin air.

TLDR: There is no real nuance other than understanding that to the global Left, Naitonalism IS Fascism, that is why they keep thinking of Trump as one --- America First. Its not based on really any of Trump's work ---- just the enthusiasm of his supporters. Its the Nationalism that is offending.

My personal opinion is Zeihan has come to love the smell of his own farts. His smugness in recent videos is off the charts.

If his insight and analysis was as valuable as he thinks somehow I don't think he would be selling webinars on his website for $650.

I agree with you that the left misapplies the label to nationalists, though I don't know that I'm ready to concede that definition to them in the culture war.

Fascism is leftist and authoritarian. I don't see that Neo-Fascism is meaningfully different.

Is Fascism Right or Left? (PragerU)

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Thanks for the link! Watched it. He did say the "conventional wisdom" --- as if it was a `downloaded opinion' and he had not fully formed one.

Is it correct to call Zeihan a Center Left or what would be the placement? Maybe like Rogan perhaps.

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My personal opinion is Zeihan has come to love the smell of his own farts. His smugness in recent videos is off the charts.

If his insight and analysis was as valuable as he thinks somehow I don't think he would be selling webinars on his website for $650.

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Must be missing something? What is the normal rate for webinars?? $ 650 sounds like a good return.

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I agree with you that the left misapplies the label to nationalists, though I don't know that I'm ready to concede that definition to them in the culture war.

Fascism is leftist and authoritarian. I don't see that Neo-Fascism is meaningfully different.

Is Fascism Right or Left? (PragerU)

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Ah, a Prager U video. I will watch it. Want to see which way is coming at it. (You see, as discussed extensively and effectively by several here on a thread after Biden's Sept 1 `declare war on MAGA' speech different angles of the matter were looked at. Not least that Right/Left in America used to mean (and still does for mid-age and older) different than it does in Europe. However, I can tell from MSM and also board and student debates that Left/Right has become more like Europe's use now here) I will watch it.

I haven't watched enough of his stuff to characterize his personal politics. In his geopolitical videos he always seemed to stay pretty neutral. That's one of the reasons he surprised me a bit today. Based on the YouTube comments it seems as if I'm not alone.

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Thanks for the link! Watched it. He did say the "conventional wisdom" --- as if it was a `downloaded opinion' and he had not fully formed one.

Is it correct to call Zeihan a Center Left or what would be the placement? Maybe like Rogan perhaps.

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Zeihan is an HW Bush/Robert Gates Globalist. He's not a Neocon who loves war and thinks that America should make the world a Democracy but he does believe in intervention. He's certainly not a Rogan.

He's great for information and a quality listen but he is much better at the long picture vs the short term. He is a complete loon on Covid for instance. He also is definitely an elitist that likes people with credentials from elite schools and who are "experts" in government.

Sometimes he just misses, for instance his opinion here is pretty much blown away by this (outside of Italy being a place that turns over governments like pancakes):

Matteo Renzi was the Italian prime minister from 2014-2016. He’s a lefty but tells CNN:

‘Personally I was against Georgia Meloni. I’m not her best friend. We are rivals but she is not a danger to democracy. The idea there is a risk of fascism in Italy is absolutely fake news.’ pic.twitter.com/F1QXqcLDMo

— John Ruddick (@JohnRuddick2) September 26, 2022

That was a very good `glancing blow' introduction, and it was good that it didn't miss the role of Giovanni Gentile to Mussolini. Its very useful for illustrating the contradiction and paradoxes this discussion gets into because it is using the American perspective in a way that is clearer than usual seen. It shows why in American terms in fact Nazism and the Mussolini brand of fascism are left, because they are big top-down government, and everything is focused on the state.

It correctly points out that Progressivism as is now is behaving fascist, and that indeed, comes from a parallel idea-- the state as the whole point and organizing principle. The antithesis of the American liberty approach.

Yet very importantly, as short at it is, it distinguished and addressed the point I was trying to make that Nationalism is not Fascism, but it is what the Left has in mind when they call something `fascist'. Trump and MAGA are Nationalist movements, yes, but not fascist.

Usefully enough right there on the same site was this and all you have to do is watch them together to better understand the point trying to make about the American view of it.
Why You Should Be a Nationalist | PragerU

At this moment at least, Giorgia Meloni's stance is not fascist, it is Nationalist.

Further complicating this is in Europe fascism was a counter-response to Marxism. It uses Nationalism and in its more restrained forms, is really more a form of political damage control that usually doesn't outlive the organizing figure.

Whereas Left and Right in Europe ties more to the French Revolution, and not the degree of government power. Because there was third player that American thinking is never considering: monarchy. Monarchy is neither democracy/republicanism or fascism or communism. It is an entire third way. Monarch has reciprocal obligations that totalitarians do not recognize, or even feel need to pay lip service too. That's why the autocratic minded Left in the USA now is in the "rules for thee, not for me" mode. Whereas in monarchy, despite the lavish life, there is also explicit obligations and spelled out duties and they are not even so light.

In fact, would call Caesarism an elected monarch / or monarchy by acclaim -- Bonapartism can closely align with it. But here in America this third option is irrelevant. But its legacy is important when discussing Europe.

Another legacy of monarchy thinking does appear here where you inject the religious body arguments---the papacy is monarchy of sorts in its way of relating. Shares far more traits with that then it does the other systems.

Edit: I should make clear that the discussion of monarchy is my own addition and not something the video gets into because it is looking at the American perspective. I called attention to that for precisely some reminder of the European difference.

Both videos are short, barely 5 minutes, and worth the "surface or glancing' insight they are once give.

I agree that both videos are on-point and work well together. They really helped clarify the left vs. right and nationalist vs. globalist characteristics in a straightforward manner.

Good points on monarchy.