see if you can spot a common denominator here:

Here's a look at the places with the largest net outflow of high-earners:

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New York: -19,912 (totally democrat controlled)

California: -19,229 (totally democrat controlled)

Illinois: -8,044 (totally democrat controlled)

Massachusetts: -2,116 (totally democrat controlled)

Virginia: -2,099 (GOP just elected last year after 8 years democrat control)

New Jersey: -1,833 (total democrat control)

Maryland: -1,828 (democrat controlled legislature, soon to be democrat governor)

District of Columbia: -1,730 (total democrat controlled)

Minnesota: -952 (democrat control)

Ohio: -889 (GOP control)

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Perhaps tellingly, the places with the largest outflow of high-earning households have some of the highest tax burdens in the country, according to data from personal finance site WalletHub.[/ol]
For these states, the tax burden a measure of the proportion of total personal income that residents paid toward state and local taxes in 2019 is nearly twice that of states with the lowest tax burdens.

And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

Over what time period? What's considered wealthy? I feel like 19k folks from Cali have moved to Austin since the beginning of the year. And they all pay cash for over-priced homes...

dmart90 said:

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Over what time period? What's considered wealthy? I feel like 19k folks from Cali have moved to Austin since the beginning of the year. And they all pay cash for over-priced homes...

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CNBC.com

says anyone over $200,000 annual income those are the stats in the last year

Get outta here with your proper grammar! But yeah, spot on, sadly.

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And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

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On my commute this morning, driving down I-35E in Lewisville, I saw a black Mercedes with a Texas vanity tag that said "CA 2.0".

The evil part of me wanted to take him out. Both for that license plate and the fact he driving like a stereotypical Mercedes driver.

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That is why you need a "no vote for a transplant for 5 (10?) years"- ---- don't mind if blue states do it also.

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Folks keep saying this but the evidence contradicts it. Hell again this weekend I met a guy who has a very successful business in California and has significant wealth who is in the process of moving to Texas and bought hundreds of acres in the Hill Country. He's moving almost exclusively over taxes and politics, he just can't take the leftists anymore. That describes most of these folks who are moving. Some are also in the Elon Musk/Joe Rogan category of former libs that have been red pilled. There are certainly some lefties that have come in but data is suggesting we are getting more Republicans than Dems. The issue is our brainwashed youth and Karens in the Suburbs are very Blue.

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Rapier108 said:

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And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

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Folks keep saying this but the evidence contradicts it. Hell again this weekend I met a guy who has a very successful business in California and has significant wealth who is in the process of moving to Texas and bought hundreds of acres in the Hill Country. He's moving almost exclusively over taxes and politics, he just can't take the leftists anymore. That describes most of these folks who are moving. Some are also in the Elon Musk/Joe Rogan category of former libs that have been red pilled. There are certainly some lefties that have come in but data is suggesting we are getting more Republicans than Dems. The issue is our brainwashed youth and Karens in the Suburbs are very Blue.

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My comment was specifically about these ultra rich people, many of whom are funding the Democrats and the left in general, leaving the mess they created only to come here and start funding the same bull**** again. Good example is the nVidia guy who moved to Austin from the SFO area and gave Beta some multimillion dollar donation.

There are plenty of good working class people fleeing these states who are not coming here to vote communist. They want to escape that.

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Rapier108 said:

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And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

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Folks keep saying this but the evidence contradicts it. Hell again this weekend I met a guy who has a very successful business in California and has significant wealth who is in the process of moving to Texas and bought hundreds of acres in the Hill Country. He's moving almost exclusively over taxes and politics, he just can't take the leftists anymore. That describes most of these folks who are moving. Some are also in the Elon Musk/Joe Rogan category of former libs that have been red pilled. There are certainly some lefties that have come in but data is suggesting we are getting more Republicans than Dems. The issue is our brainwashed youth and Karens in the Suburbs are very Blue.

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My comment was specifically about these ultra rich people, many of whom are funding the Democrats and the left in general, leaving the mess they created only to come here and start funding the same bull**** again. Good example is the nVidia guy who moved to Austin from the SFO area and gave Beta some multimillion dollar donation.

There are plenty of good working class people fleeing these states who are not coming here to vote communist. They want to escape that.

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The other kind is what some of the Perry-Abbott bashers complain about, with a bit of cause. All the blue coast businesses Austin tries to incentivize to move to Texas brings their brainless politics and staffs with them. That type, actually probably far more than the "got up and moved the hell out of here" types acting on their own that are coming from blue states is probably the larger risk.

But the catch-22 is it is entirely normal and usually positive to seek to attract businesses.

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Rapier108 said:

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And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

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Folks keep saying this but the evidence contradicts it. Hell again this weekend I met a guy who has a very successful business in California and has significant wealth who is in the process of moving to Texas and bought hundreds of acres in the Hill Country. He's moving almost exclusively over taxes and politics, he just can't take the leftists anymore. That describes most of these folks who are moving. Some are also in the Elon Musk/Joe Rogan category of former libs that have been red pilled. There are certainly some lefties that have come in but data is suggesting we are getting more Republicans than Dems. The issue is our brainwashed youth and Karens in the Suburbs are very Blue.

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My comment was specifically about these ultra rich people, many of whom are funding the Democrats and the left in general, leaving the mess they created only to come here and start funding the same bull**** again. Good example is the nVidia guy who moved to Austin from the SFO area and gave Beta some multimillion dollar donation.

There are plenty of good working class people fleeing these states who are not coming here to vote communist. They want to escape that.

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Sure, there are definitely leftists that move here (esp in Tech) and bring their crazy with them. My point is they are outnumbered by the conservatives and that includes high income folks. For instance the guy I met owned a car dealership. There are also liberals starting to leave Texas, especially since Dobbs. Folks that have far more money than they can use often don't care about taxes and the virtue signaling means more to them. Folks that prioritize finances tend more conservative though it isn't an absolute.

Obviously the answer is for these lower tax states to raise their taxes!

/Your neighborhood socialist

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And like locust, they now are trying to destroy the places to which they fled.

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Folks keep saying this but the evidence contradicts it. Hell again this weekend I met a guy who has a very successful business in California and has significant wealth who is in the process of moving to Texas and bought hundreds of acres in the Hill Country. He's moving almost exclusively over taxes and politics, he just can't take the leftists anymore. That describes most of these folks who are moving. Some are also in the Elon Musk/Joe Rogan category of former libs that have been red pilled. There are certainly some lefties that have come in but data is suggesting we are getting more Republicans than Dems. The issue is our brainwashed youth and Karens in the Suburbs are very Blue.

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Joe Rogan has not been red pilled - still believes in leftist policy. But is a First and Second Amendment absolutist.

Loves Texas because of the freedom and friendly attitude of Texans.

Musk will vote R but more out of necessity than some deep seeded idealogical shift. He is middle of the road, but a free speech absolutist as well.

Karens in the 'burbs are the biggest worry.

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see if you can spot a common denominator here:

Here's a look at the places with the largest net outflow of high-earners:

[ol]

New York: -19,912 (totally democrat controlled)

California: -19,229 (totally democrat controlled)

Illinois: -8,044 (totally democrat controlled)

Massachusetts: -2,116 (totally democrat controlled)

Virginia: -2,099 (GOP just elected last year after 8 years democrat control)

New Jersey: -1,833 (total democrat control)

Maryland: -1,828 (democrat controlled legislature, soon to be democrat governor)

District of Columbia: -1,730 (total democrat controlled)

Minnesota: -952 (democrat control)

Ohio: -889 (GOP control)

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B1G schools

MD's is a RINO

VA is losing gov. retires to NC.

I've always wondered whether anyone has studied (politically) where we could encourage conservative to move from and to to make the most impact on national politics...

i.e. Could we take a RED RED state with decently high population, and shave off 3-5% of their conservatives to encourage them to move to slightly purple states and tip the scales red?

Example:
Could you encourage conservatives from reliable Alabama with a surplus (delta) of 854K GOP voters over Dems, and encourage 100K rammer bammers to move to Arizona (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Georgia (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Wisconsin (20k Votes for Trump to win in 2020)
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Wages are so high in California that being mid middle class or often even lower middle class puts you firmly in the upper middle class anywhere else. If you smartly saved money, you can buy a house with cash pretty much anywhere in Texas.

Every problem and blame you want to assign to politics pales in comparison to the reality that rich people are rich; you can't outbid them for what they want. And they want to live in California. So you have to settle for Texas or wherever else.

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Wages are so high in California that being mid middle class or often even lower middle class puts you firmly in the upper middle class anywhere else. If you smartly saved money, you can buy a house with cash pretty much anywhere in Texas.

Every problem and blame you want to assign to politics pales in comparison to the reality that rich people are rich; you can't outbid them for what they want. And they want to live in California. So you have to settle for Texas or wherever else.

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This sounds like you don't think the exodus has anything to do with California politics but rather just that the rich are buying up the state. Do I read that right? I supposed that's possible but at this point the powers that be in Cali should be concerned. In 2020 they lost a House seat for the first time in history. Clearly the exodus will matter at some point.

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I've always wondered whether anyone has studied (politically) where we could encourage conservative to move from and to to make the most impact on national politics...

i.e. Could we take a RED RED state with decently high population, and shave off 3-5% of their conservatives to encourage them to move to slightly purple states and tip the scales red?

Example:
Could you encourage conservatives from reliable Alabama with a surplus (delta) of 854K GOP voters over Dems, and encourage 100K rammer bammers to move to Arizona (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Georgia (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Wisconsin (20k Votes for Trump to win in 2020)
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yes, move most of Alabama into Virginia and Minnesota and Pennsylvania

Parasites need a host to take over, consume and destroy. Parasites never change the mission which they are/were designed for.

SpreadsheetAg said:

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I've always wondered whether anyone has studied (politically) where we could encourage conservative to move from and to to make the most impact on national politics...

i.e. Could we take a RED RED state with decently high population, and shave off 3-5% of their conservatives to encourage them to move to slightly purple states and tip the scales red?

Example:
Could you encourage conservatives from reliable Alabama with a surplus (delta) of 854K GOP voters over Dems, and encourage 100K rammer bammers to move to Arizona (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Georgia (12k Votes for Trump to win in 2020); Wisconsin (20k Votes for Trump to win in 2020)
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Was it New Hampshire where libertarians(?) we're going to try and experiment where many of them would love there and they would run that state accordingly?