US Can't Down Russian Missiles Being Used in Ukraine, Report Says

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WolfCall
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Interesting Defense One article. Would like to hear comments from current and former military, who had a Missile Defense MOS

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/07/us-cant-down-russian-missiles-being-used-ukraine-report-says/374226/
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US Can't Down Russian Missiles Being Used in Ukraine, Report Says

Building a defense against cruise missiles will cost billions, CSIS concludes.
BY MARCUS WEISGERBER, GLOBAL BUSINESS EDITOR JULY 14, 2022

The United States is not prepared to defend itself from the types of cruise missiles Russia has increasingly used to attack Ukraine, warns a new assessment from a prominent Washington think tank.

The report from the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and International Studies argues that military commanders and policymakers have ignored the protection of the continental United States from these low-flying, maneuverable weapons. Instead, they've poured billions of dollars into siloed interceptors that protect the homeland from higher-flying missiles and into mobile systems to defend forces deployed in other regions of the world.

"The near-complete lack of homeland cruise missile defense and related forms of air defense more broadly has created a deterrence problem," the report states.

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The only missile interceptors in the United States that can shoot down cruise missiles are NASAMS batteries installed around Washington, D.C., to protect government buildings. There are also fighter jets at Joint Base Andrews in the Maryland suburbs that can conceivably shoot down incoming missiles with air-to-air missiles, the report states. Earlier this month, the Pentagon said it would give Ukraine two NASAMS batteries.

There are many radars around the United States that could help track a cruise missile, but they are operated by several government organizations, including the Pentagon, Homeland Security Department, Federal Aviation Administration, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. These do not currently share their data with one another but if they did, the report says, they might weave a useful defensive net....

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Houstonag
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I have little faith in the preparedness of our military to defend our nation. The woke junk being forced on the rank and file has weakened our military and discourages good people from staying in the armed services. Staring form the Joint chiefs all the way down I have no confidence in these guys and girls.
TAMUallen
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Cost billions?

Like the billions we've given to Ukraine?
EskimoJoe
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sounds like the armed forces need more CRT and LBGQWTF training to become more proficient
Manhattan
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The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…
sclaff
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Ukraine is shooting them down
Smeghead4761
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Well, America has one very effective defense against these missile that Ukraine lacks - distance.

Except for Alaska, there's a whole lot of ocean and/or Canada between most of America and those missiles.

The Russian navy surface fleet is a broke down, rusting shell, and I doubt many of their subs are in all that much better shape.

So where are they going to launch those missiles from?
Ellis Wyatt
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Thankfully, our military knows to use the proper pronouns. That's what matters. Your move, Russia.
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DrEvazanPhD
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Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence
Manhattan
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US Central Command + the two secret service agents are actually in charge.

Personally I would prefer the put the launch codes in the secret service agent plan and give the president a knife.
GAC06
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We would devastate Russia quickly in a conventional war. They would get some licks in but they would be utterly brutalized. The best defense still is a good offense, and we would inflict the kind of damage that would prevent an organized resistance quickly.
GAC06
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Intercepting all their missiles would just be icing on the cake. The bombers and subs and surface combatants launching their cruise missiles would be gone within days of the commencement of hostilities
ABATTBQ11
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Thread title is misleading.

We CAN. The issue is that we do not have a system in place to detect and defend against a modern cruise missile threat domestically. What the original analysis is talking about is that we actively look for and defend against ICBM's, but not low flying cruise missiles. It's not that we can't shoot them down, it's that we aren't trying.
Look it up
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blacksox
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.
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Engine10
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It's this. The game theory says there's no point to focusing on cruise missiles - there's gotta be almost no scenario where that attack doesn't immediately escalate to ICBM warfare, then MAD.

You just have to believe the other team will launch the nukes, and doesn't have a meaningful deterrent/intercept capability for them.
cevans_40
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.

Sure they were.

You are pathetic
DrEvazanPhD
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.


Guess living in your mom's basement does help you save with the expensive gas and groceries your guy has in place
deddog
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.
Yes, and i heard he also peed on hookers
oldarmyjess66
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EskimoJoe said:

sounds like the armed forces need more CRT and LBGQWTF training to become more proficient
Exactly! Need to double down on CRT and LBGQWTF+ training...will increase our military might! Sic the tv's and fruits on China/Russia and they will surrender immediately.
PCC_80
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Defending against Cruise Missiles is very very difficult because they are not that big and generally fly a couple of hundred feet above the ground and can be programmed to weave between/around hills and other obstacles in order to hide their approach. Ground based radars are looking up and have limited view due to terrain and curvature of the earth. They generally do not see them until they get very close if even then since the cruise missiles are small and low and often get lost in the clutter of trees, hills, power lines, birds, etc. Even radars from many aircraft have a hard time seeing cruise missiles due to looking down into all the ground clutter.

The new AESA Radars on newer aircraft are a huge improvement since they can generally spot low flying objects and pick out the faster moving objects from slower moving things such as birds and automobiles. Still those aircraft have to be in the air and actually be scanning/searching in the right direction.
RoadkillBBQ
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.

A brief glimpse inside the mind of a true believer……
Ag with kids
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.
Other than that not being true, ok...
stetson
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blacksox said:

DrEvazanPhD said:

Manhattan said:

The deterrent is a Minuteman III landing in Moscow in 30 minutes…



With a demented pedophile with his finger on the button. Gives me such confidence


Yeah, uh, your fellow was so delusional and deranged the American military was on the phone with China to assure them they would disobey a launch order from the commander in chief. Let that sink in.

Oh, yeah, and he colluded with Russia! And that whole quid pro quo thing with Ukraine. Then there was that grabbing the steering wheel of "The Beast" incident because the SS wouldn't take him to the Capitol to participate in the "insurrection" that he ordered. Not to even mention him peeing on Russian prostitutes!
FJB
lb3
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TAMUallen said:

Cost billions?

Like the billions we've given to Ukraine?
Probably more like trillions to place anti-missile batteries in every city and town in America.
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