Abrams and Warnock Pushing Biden to Cancel Student Loans to "Turn Out the Base"

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President Biden is inching closer to "forgiving" student loansa move that is not only illegal but profoundly unfair to hardworking taxpayers, most of whom never went to college. Others who did go made sacrifices to pay off their loans and are now deeply resentful that a swath of borrowers may have their debts cleared. Now we know why President Biden is actually entertaining such a foolish idea to cancel up to $10,000 of debt per borrower.

According to a conversation between The Washington Post's James Hohmann and The Bulwark's Charlie Sykes, Georgia Democrats Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock are putting tremendous pressure on the administration to move on student loan "forgiveness." Abrams argues it's the only way to get the base to turn out.

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James Hohmann: Stacey Abrams has been browbeating the White House on this, and says that this is the only way she could win that this is going to be a base turnout election. This isn't about persuading people in the middle, it's about getting the base to turn out. And the base isn't going to turn out if they don't do this, and that they have all sorts of stats about how a lot of graduates from HBCUs have all this debt. And so there are a lot of people very close to the president who privately understand that this is a complete disaster for them. But the president is being pulled really hard by these woke leftists who … believe it's all about the base. They just don't get it because they haven't spent time in the WOW counties or in Apple Valley, Minnesota.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/06/05/stacey-abrams-responsible-for-pushing-wh-on-student-loan-debt-n2608208

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/never-again-happens-again-and-again?s=r
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
captkirk
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More taxpayers will "turn out" to vote against you
DrEvazanPhD
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Literal bribery
Stringfellow Hawke
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I have paid every cent I have ever borrowed whether from a bank or a person. It is absolutely insane to use this is a tool to steal another election.
Bobaloo
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Anything to help out the white liberal college graduates!
Shoefly!
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My understanding is that Biden cannot EO a directive to erase student debt, a bill would have to pass congress. Hell, who knows anymore?
Maroon Dawn
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Shoefly! said:

My understanding is that Biden cannot EO a directive to erase student debt, a bill would have to pass congress. Hell, who knows anymore?


This

The executive has no power to do this

BoerneGator
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Literal bribery


More like extortion.
numetalbizkitaggie
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captkirk said:

More taxpayers will "turn out" to vote against you

I sure as crap will. I did without to pay mine back as soon as possible. It's bullcrap.
Ag87H2O
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All Abrams cares about is how she thinks it will impact her election. She couldn't care less about the policy or societal ramifications or it's legality.

Just like getting Biden into the White House, all that matters is the next election. The ends justify the means, no matter how wrong or harmful or devious the path.

Democrats are typically shady, but she is a particularly sheisty low-life.
Kenneth_2003
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If to turn out the base, better to (as always) make it a campaign promise.

Why do you think government does nothing? Solved "problems" or resolved conflicts do not create loyalty. Loyalty is bought on promises.
Kozmozag
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He has already done it foe several different groups. It's all bull****, but gop isn't challenging him. If I was him I would forgive it all about a week before the election.
Rapier108
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Ag87H2O said:

The fact that all Abrams cares about is how she thinks it will impact her election. She couldn't care less about the policy or societal ramifications or it's legality.

Just like getting Biden into the White House, all that matters is the next election. The ends justify the means, no matter how wrong or harmful or devious the path.
Her goal has always been to be President.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Ol Rock
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Every time a lib talks about canceling student debt, their opponent should highlight that they want to take money, in taxes, from everyone who did pay their debts or didn't go to college. This would be a tax on the responsible to fund the irresponsible. This would be a tax on blue collar workers to bail out the rich liberal elitests.

Spell it out.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Shoefly! said:

My understanding is that Biden cannot EO a directive to erase student debt, a bill would have to pass congress. Hell, who knows anymore?


This

The executive has no power to do this




They didnt have power for DACA either. Obama the alleged con law genius even stated that. Then they did. Then the damn USSC 5-4, with roberts being one of the 5, says trump couldnt end an unconstitutional EO without giving a reason. Thats the ****ed up USA we live in now thanks to commies taking over the dem
Party and almost all of ivory tower
YouBet
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Bobaloo said:

Anything to help out the white liberal college graduates!


Sounds to me like Abrams is playing the reparations card from her angle.
numetalbizkitaggie
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Kozmozag said:

He has already done it foe several different groups. It's all bull****, but gop isn't challenging him. If I was him I would forgive it all about a week before the election.

GOP isn't going to challenge this because optics. "You don't care about the poor minorities," screamed the white liberal.
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I forgot which founder said it and the exact wording escapes me but he basically stated that all democracys/republics will eventually fail because at some point a majority of the people will realize they can vote themselves stuff from the public largesse. With each passing year the left gets us closer and closer to that point of failure.
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Bobaloo said:

Anything to help out the white liberal college graduates!


Yeah, this will turn possible Dem browns, who work 70hr weeks doing manual labor, into a red-pilled juggernaut.

Friggin dumbasses.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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Shoefly! said:

My understanding is that Biden cannot EO a directive to erase student debt, a bill would have to pass congress. Hell, who knows anymore?


Congress did pass a bill to do this. They gave the Secretary of Education the power to cancel student loan debt and didn't put limits on it. By the letter of the law it's legal.
BigRobSA
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YouBet said:

Bobaloo said:

Anything to help out the white liberal college graduates!


Sounds to me like Abrams is playing the reparations card from her angle.


She has proven to be even dumber than thought. Percentage wise, she is pushing to give tons of honkies debt forgiveness. Dumbass
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Shoefly!
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He did it for Corinthian College a for profit, that used shady tactics to sign students. I don't know if that matters, HBCU's are not for profit. We shall see!
CrottyKid
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Jokes on them. If my loans are forgiven, I will still vote R.
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50% of student loan debt is to graduate students. It's a bailout of Elite white liberals.
The_Waco_Kid
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The only way to make it fair is to issue tax credits for whatever the dollar amount is to those who have $0 in federal student loans. But that still sets it up wrong. The best thing to do is not cancel a single red cent unless the borrower is doing what is already expected of them per the terms of borrowing - public teaching, military, or social work, all for minimum ten years (if I remember the terms of my loans correctly.)
Kenneth_2003
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numetalbizkitaggie said:

Kozmozag said:

He has already done it foe several different groups. It's all bull****, but gop isn't challenging him. If I was him I would forgive it all about a week before the election.

GOP isn't going to challenge this because optics. "You don't care about the poor minorities," screamed the white liberal.


You don't fight a losing battle from a position of weakness. Right now the best course of action involves tactical patience.
DannyDuberstein
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Shameless bribery to buy votes and using our tax dollars to do it. This kind of crap should be illegal
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Literal bribery


With our money
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Rapier108 said:

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President Biden is inching closer to "forgiving" student loansa move that is not only illegal but profoundly unfair to hardworking taxpayers, most of whom never went to college. Others who did go made sacrifices to pay off their loans and are now deeply resentful that a swath of borrowers may have their debts cleared. Now we know why President Biden is actually entertaining such a foolish idea to cancel up to $10,000 of debt per borrower.

According to a conversation between The Washington Post's James Hohmann and The Bulwark's Charlie Sykes, Georgia Democrats Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock are putting tremendous pressure on the administration to move on student loan "forgiveness." Abrams argues it's the only way to get the base to turn out.

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Quote:

James Hohmann: Stacey Abrams has been browbeating the White House on this, and says that this is the only way she could win that this is going to be a base turnout election. This isn't about persuading people in the middle, it's about getting the base to turn out. And the base isn't going to turn out if they don't do this, and that they have all sorts of stats about how a lot of graduates from HBCUs have all this debt. And so there are a lot of people very close to the president who privately understand that this is a complete disaster for them. But the president is being pulled really hard by these woke leftists who … believe it's all about the base. They just don't get it because they haven't spent time in the WOW counties or in Apple Valley, Minnesota.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/06/05/stacey-abrams-responsible-for-pushing-wh-on-student-loan-debt-n2608208

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/never-again-happens-again-and-again?s=r



Don't people who don't have kids taxes pay for public schools in which they don't have kids attending?
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Rapier108 said:

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President Biden is inching closer to "forgiving" student loansa move that is not only illegal but profoundly unfair to hardworking taxpayers, most of whom never went to college. Others who did go made sacrifices to pay off their loans and are now deeply resentful that a swath of borrowers may have their debts cleared. Now we know why President Biden is actually entertaining such a foolish idea to cancel up to $10,000 of debt per borrower.

According to a conversation between The Washington Post's James Hohmann and The Bulwark's Charlie Sykes, Georgia Democrats Stacey Abrams and Raphael Warnock are putting tremendous pressure on the administration to move on student loan "forgiveness." Abrams argues it's the only way to get the base to turn out.

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Quote:

James Hohmann: Stacey Abrams has been browbeating the White House on this, and says that this is the only way she could win that this is going to be a base turnout election. This isn't about persuading people in the middle, it's about getting the base to turn out. And the base isn't going to turn out if they don't do this, and that they have all sorts of stats about how a lot of graduates from HBCUs have all this debt. And so there are a lot of people very close to the president who privately understand that this is a complete disaster for them. But the president is being pulled really hard by these woke leftists who … believe it's all about the base. They just don't get it because they haven't spent time in the WOW counties or in Apple Valley, Minnesota.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/06/05/stacey-abrams-responsible-for-pushing-wh-on-student-loan-debt-n2608208

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/never-again-happens-again-and-again?s=r

I would expect this from a Democrat, destroy the country by assuming another trillion dollars in more debt so that they can get reelected. Just more proof as to where the Democrats' loyalty lies.
Marcus Brutus
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Zarathustra said:


50% of student loan debt is to graduate students. It's a bailout of Elite white liberals.



Who vote Dem regardless.
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