“I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, untraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control.”

-Senator Joe Biden, 1985

— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) June 2, 2022

Jim Jordan stood by and did nothing while Richard Strauss, aka Dr. Jellyfingers abused athletes at Ohio State, so I'm not a fan of the man. He's right to bring up Biden's hypocrisy, though.

Dems are not held accountable for things they said in the past. But if you're a R, you better scrub your high school yearbook for "bad" things.

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Jim Jordan stood by and did nothing while Richard Strauss, aka Dr. Jellyfingers abused athletes at Ohio State, so I'm not a fan of the man.

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So, you're swayed by social media propaganda, then. Got it.

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Dems are not held accountable for things they said in the past. But if you're a R, you better scrub your high school yearbook for "bad" things.

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High school? I suggest you go back to the baby books your mom put together for you. Never know what horrid things one might find in there.

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Dems are not held accountable for things they said in the past. But if you're a R, you better scrub your high school yearbook for "bad" things.

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High school? I suggest you go back to the baby books your mom put together for you. Never know what horrid things one might find in there.

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Like yellow bellied sneetches racism?

This is number 187 of idiotic thing Biden has said during his career and not been held accountable for.

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Jim Jordan stood by and did nothing while Richard Strauss, aka Dr. Jellyfingers abused athletes at Ohio State, so I'm not a fan of the man.

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So, you're swayed by social media propaganda, then. Got it.

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Nah, I just believe the first-hand accounts of athletes who were there at the time and know of Strauss and Jordan's relationship. I'm sure you know differently than the people who were actually there at the time, though, so go off.

In 1985 we didn't celebrate degeneracy. Look at what that crap has done to our society.

My 40 time.

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This is number 187 of idiotic thing Biden has said during his career and not been held accountable for.

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Actually, it's probably the most lucid, accurate comment that has ever found its way out of Biden's mouth.

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“I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, untraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control.”

-Senator Joe Biden, 1985

— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) June 2, 2022

Jim Jordan stood by and did nothing while Richard Strauss, aka Dr. Jellyfingers abused athletes at Ohio State, so I'm not a fan of the man. He's right to bring up Biden's hypocrisy, though.

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What is the rest of the quote. Context.

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During my twelves and a half years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, non-traceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime.

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https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRECB-1985-pt13/pdf/GPO-CRECB-1985-pt13-4-2.pdf

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37 years ago he had a semi functioning frontal cortex. Now, not so much.

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During my twelves and a half years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, non-traceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime.

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Thanks.

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Nah, I just believe the first-hand accounts of athletes who were there at the time and know of Strauss and Jordan's relationship. I'm sure you know differently than the people who were actually there at the time, though, so go off.

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First hand accounts my ass. The investigation was done by Perkins Cole, a DNC front. Once they found out Jim Jordan was at OhSU at the time, the secondary (some would say primary) purpose of the "investigation" was to bring him down. While I'm sure most of, or even all, the allegations against Strauss were accurate, I don't trust a word of any of it with regards to Jordan. I still find it hard to believe that a) someone seriously tries to peddle the idea that ONLY Jordan could have stopped it (assuming he knew) or b) that college wrestlers (en masse) could be abused. Maybe one or two, or maybe once, but if I tried to abuse a college wrestler I'd expect to get my neck broken. Besides, OhSU already knew and ignored it long before Jordan was there.

It doesn't get mentioned anymore because it wasn't true and the headlines served their purpose.

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First hand accounts my ass. The investigation was done by Perkins Cole, a DNC front. Once they found out Jim Jordan was at OhSU at the time, the secondary (some would say primary) purpose of the "investigation" was to bring him down. While I'm sure most of, or even all, the allegations against Strauss were accurate, I don't trust a word of any of it with regards to Jordan. I still find it hard to believe that a) someone seriously tries to peddle the idea that ONLY Jordan could have stopped it (assuming he knew) or b) that college wrestlers (en masse) could be abused. Maybe one or two, or maybe once, but if I tried to abuse a college wrestler I'd expect to get my neck broken. Besides, OhSU already knew and ignored it long before Jordan was there.

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I haven't seen anyone try to say ONLY Jordan could have stopped it, so that is a red herring.

These wrestlers were abused the same way Olympic gymnasts were abused with their mother's sitting in the room with them while it happened, it was sexual abuse disguised as a legitimate medical treatment. How can victims report abuse if they don't even know they're victims?

While I think Jordan and Russ Hellickson heard about Strauss' habit of sodomizing wrestlers with his fingers, I don't think they recognized it as sodomy at the time, nor did they recognize it as sexual assault. This was 1987-1995, sexual assault was not recognized in those terms.

The fact that you think 'college wrestlers cannot be abused' is precisely what allows something like this to happen.

If 1985 Biden ever returned he would be hauled out of the White House by a thousand pink vagina hats

What changed? …… the long game of the leftists has been very successful.

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During my twelves and a half years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, non-traceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime.

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Seems like things have changed quite a bit from 1985. Unfortunately we won't be able to conserve the way society was and we lived in 1985 we need to progress forward to modern day times.

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I haven't seen anyone try to say ONLY Jordan could have stopped it, so that is a red herring.

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I rarely never accuse people of trolling, but this HAS to be one. However, just for the record, I'll play along.

YOU said he did nothing. What I said, what is fact, and what you didn't respond to is that Ohio State KNEW about this creep long before Jordan was even there. Or at least, they knew about the allegations. THEY did nothing. Whatever Jordan would have done or not done is the red herring here, because it would have almost certainly been meaningless.

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First of all, I didn't say that. You clearly misquoted me for a reason. You need to look at what I actually SAID. Grab a dictionary because you obviously don't know the meanings of some words. Second, are you seriously asserting that the FACT of what I THINK ALLOWS this to happen? I've never witnessed abuse; never been around it. I was in jr. high and high school during the time a lot of this stuff was going on. How in the hell could I, much less what I think, have ANYTHING to do with this or any other abuse?

Dude, go away. Perkins Cole did a hit job on Jordan and you damn well know it.

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During my twelves and a half years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, non-traceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime.

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Seems like things have changed quite a bit from 1985. Unfortunately we won't be able to conserve the way society was and we lived in 1985 we need to progress forward to modern day times.

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Do you also feel like the Constitution is an outdated document?

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Seems like things have changed quite a bit from 1985. Unfortunately we won't be able to conserve the way society was and we lived in 1985 we need to progress forward to modern day times.

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I don't think my feelings are relevant. Factually speaking it's outdated as any document would be over such a long period of time. Or even one that considered human beings less than human because of the color of their skin they were born with. If anyone if that mindset was allowed to have any say so the entire document should be stricken.

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During my twelves and a half years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, non-traceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime.

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Seems like things have changed quite a bit from 1985. Unfortunately we won't be able to conserve the way society was and we lived in 1985 we need to progress forward to modern day times.

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I don't think my feelings are relevant. Factually speaking it's outdated as any document would be over such a long period of time. Or even one that considered human beings less than human because of the color of their skin they were born with. If anyone if that mindset was allowed to have any say so the entire document should be stricken.

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Why do most commie socialists use "ideas" such as CRT and "white privilege" to now discriminate against other humans because of the color of their skin? Please explain that to us unenlightened folk living in the middle ages of the US Constitution.

So the real purpose of this thread is to bash Jim Jordan.

Document for entire structure of government and declaration of inalienable rights that has processes in place to allow it to be updated is outdated and should be eliminated. - village idiot

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37 years ago he had a semi functioning frontal cortex. Now, not so much.

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It's not that. 37 years ago he was independently in the drivers seat of his own corruption. Today, he is 100% controlled domestically via the Larry Finks and Soros and internationally via the kompromat on his family. He does what he is told to do, and red meat for leftist voters has changed significantly. Its that simple.

Not a damn thing. Joes still the same racist, lying democrat he always was.

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I don't think my feelings are relevant. Factually speaking it's outdated as any document would be over such a long period of time. Or even one that considered human beings less than human because of the color of their skin they were born with. If anyone if that mindset was allowed to have any say so the entire document should be stricken.

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socialism is only 60 years older than the constitution, (communist manifesto 1848) has resulted in more deaths, poverty, and more enslavement than any other governmental form in history while the constitution led to the freeing of slaves 75 years later and pulled millions out of poverty. There was still slavery going on in Europe, Asia, the ME, South America, and Africa for a half century to a full century after America freed the slaves.

As such it has resulted in more good than any other document or governmental philosophy in history.

You are wrong on every level. Go read some actual history instead of the fairy tales you got spoon fed by marxists.

I'm not arguing that Ohio State wasn't aware of what Strauss was doing, but like I said before, I don't think people at that time recognized what was happening as sexual assault. You have to remember that this was only brought up after the Nassar abuse at Michigan State/the Olympics went to trial, and an Ohio State wrestler watching it thought, "Wait a minute, this is really close to what happened to me."

This is also why I said the best victims are people who don't even know they were victims. I think a lot of wrestlers at Ohio State at the time would have told you they were uncomfortable with Strauss' 'treatment', but if you asked them if they were rape victims, they'd say no.

I pointed out Jordan's part in the Strauss scandal because I freely admit Jordan isn't perfect, something I wanted to acknowledge before I pointed out Biden's hypocrisy between what he said then and what he says now.

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If you aren't saying 'college wrestlers can't be abused' right here, what are you saying? I'm using your words.

The attitude that 'men can't be victims of sexual abuse' or 'no one would abuse a football player, they're too big and strong' or 'college wrestlers can't be abused' is exactly what allows such abuse to happen. People are hesitant to believe it when it happens because believing it means they have to change their worldview. Sexual predators don't just hide out in dark alleys waiting for victims, sometimes they're doctors and religious leaders and politicians and people in positions of respect.

If anyone is trolling here, it is you. I brought up a Biden quote Jordan tweeted to point out Biden's hypocrisy, you're the one who turned this post into an excuse to push the conspiracy against Jim Jordan.