I have (technically I was in the school the moment it happened)....OG CFISD / northwest Houston folks should remember this one.

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SEPT. 29, 1984

Sniper charged with attempted murder


A junior high student who escaped gunfire near his school has identified a man who admitted going on a shooting spree at two schools and wounding an elementary student, investigators said.

Samuel George, 28, surrendered to Harris County Sheriff's officers Friday.

Except for extra security early in the day, life returned to normal at the 27 schools in the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District. Principals, who had planned to keep children inside after Thursday's shootings, were told after George surrendered 'to go about the day as if it were a normal Friday,' schools spokesman George Drushel said.

However, there was no flag raising ceremony at Millsap Elementary School, where Joshua Baker Littell, 10, was shot in the left arm Thursday after he and a friend finished raising the American flag.
Instead, teacher Dan McIlduff raised the flag at 6:30 a.m. Friday before students arrived.
Littell, whose arm was fractured above the elbow by a bullet, was in stable condition Friday and was expected to remain in the hospital for two or three more days.


'He (George) indicated to us before he stopped talking that he was mad at the world and everybody else had it better than him,' Sheriff's Sgt. George Sturgis said.
The suspect did not indicate why he shot at students, the sergeant said.

Sturgis said George was 'positively identified' in a lineup by student Curtis McGuffey, 13, who said he was shot at twice Thursday morning on his way to Bleyl Junior High.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/09/29/Sniper-charged-with-attempted-murder/7489465278400/

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Curtis missed the bus and was walking late to school that day. The sniper pulled up in the bus lane and fired at him. I remember hearing about it by about 2nd period. The bus ride home in afternoon there were all sorts of cops and parents ready for just about anything along every bus route.

I know the guy that sold the Boulder grocery store shooter the gun. My old boss has a daughter that was at sandy hook the day it happened. Crazy how rare these things are, but you still know people who were effected.

I was employed as a faculty member at UAH when that shooting occurred. I knew the perpetrator and had worked with her, but we weren't in the same department.

I was at home when the shooting occurred and had pulled up Facebook. One of my grad students has just posted to his status something along the lines of, "There is shooting in the building, please call the police."

I watched the news as they rolled the victims out of the building on stretchers, and I recognized them.

I remember posting on my own Facebook that I was ok and calling my parents and grandmother to do the same.

I had been in a different faculty meeting with the shooter exactly one week before. I remember seeing her there and noting that she looked VERY angry. I have often wondered if she had the gun with her then, too.

I was a Freshman at Longview High when the shooting in 1991 happened. I planned to go to tutorials that day which would have put me right in the middle of the shooting. Fortunately, I didn't make it in time and wasn't in the area when it happened.

Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

HollywoodBQ said:

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Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

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I remember that. My sister was a sophomore there at the time.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

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I was in 5th grade at Jolleyville elentary, about 2 miles away from the high school. They locked our school down & we weren't allowed to leave until we were signed out.

My sisters were at McNeil. One was a freshman the other a senior.

MuchosPollos said:

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I have (technically I was in the school the moment it happened)....OG CFISD / northwest Houston folks should remember this one.

Quote:

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SEPT. 29, 1984

Sniper charged with attempted murder


A junior high student who escaped gunfire near his school has identified a man who admitted going on a shooting spree at two schools and wounding an elementary student, investigators said.

Samuel George, 28, surrendered to Harris County Sheriff's officers Friday.

Except for extra security early in the day, life returned to normal at the 27 schools in the Cypress-Fairbanks Independent School District. Principals, who had planned to keep children inside after Thursday's shootings, were told after George surrendered 'to go about the day as if it were a normal Friday,' schools spokesman George Drushel said.

However, there was no flag raising ceremony at Millsap Elementary School, where Joshua Baker Littell, 10, was shot in the left arm Thursday after he and a friend finished raising the American flag.
Instead, teacher Dan McIlduff raised the flag at 6:30 a.m. Friday before students arrived.
Littell, whose arm was fractured above the elbow by a bullet, was in stable condition Friday and was expected to remain in the hospital for two or three more days.


'He (George) indicated to us before he stopped talking that he was mad at the world and everybody else had it better than him,' Sheriff's Sgt. George Sturgis said.
The suspect did not indicate why he shot at students, the sergeant said.

Sturgis said George was 'positively identified' in a lineup by student Curtis McGuffey, 13, who said he was shot at twice Thursday morning on his way to Bleyl Junior High.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/09/29/Sniper-charged-with-attempted-murder/7489465278400/

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Curtis missed the bus and was walking late to school that day. The sniper pulled up in the bus lane and fired at him. I remember hearing about it by about 2nd period. The bus ride home in afternoon there were all sorts of cops and parents ready for just about anything along every bus route.

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Me, my sister, and possibly my younger brother were in that school when this happened. The kid shot was hit outside while raising the flag if I remember correctly. I was in the 4th grade I think. Millsap Mustangs. We might know eachother, possibly, if you went on to Arnold or Cy Fair.

I had a relative at a Rockport school in 2004 when a 53 year old suspended bus driver shot two women at the bus barn. Thankfully both survived. The shooter blamed PTSD from his Vietnam days. Lockdowns, shelter in place, scary day.

SociallyConditionedAg said:

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I was a Freshman at Longview High when the shooting in 1991 happened. I planned to go to tutorials that day which would have put me right in the middle of the shooting. Fortunately, I didn't make it in time and wasn't in the area when it happened.

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Howdy. I was a junior at LHS when this happened and remember it well. Two guys fighting over a girl and it turned into a gun fight. One was a student and one was a year removed. Poor shooters with crappy guns, thank God.

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

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I remember that. My sister was a sophomore there at the time.

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So too young to have been an extra in "Dazed and Confused". That was the major brag for the kids at McNeil at that time.
Alright, Alright, Alright

Aggie_John said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

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I was in 5th grade at Jolleyville elentary, about 2 miles away from the high school. They locked our school down & we weren't allowed to leave until we were signed out.

My sisters were at McNeil. One was a freshman the other a senior.

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Ask the one who was a Senior if she remembers the day after the shooting, probably in May 1994, when the kids drove the Chevy Suburban through the doors to the HS and left it running.

As a substitute, I had to get there 45 minutes to an hour before the kids. When I arrived (I think I was teaching Math that day), antifreeze was still leaking out and the engine was still warm.

No shooting, but I was one hallway over from this one Carrollton Texas.

Was in scouts with the kid since 2nd grade as well.

I prevented a school shooting once by being the only one to report something that was said to me. Guy ultimately brought a gun but was arrested coming off the bus. He went away for the rest of my school time.

He knew it was me.

I still occasionally wonder if he's going to look me up and come find me.

True story.

Esteban du Plantier said:

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I prevented a school shooting once by being the only one to report something that was said to me. Guy ultimately brought a gun but was arrested coming off the bus. He went away for the rest of my school time.

He knew it was me.

I still occasionally wonder if he's going to look me up and come find me.

True story.

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Bleyl Brahma and Cy-Creek Cougar through and through. I am sure we know many of the same people though.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Aggie_John said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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Round Rock McNeil High School, April 1994

I just got back from the Armor School at Fort Knox, KY and I was looking for an Engineering job in Ausitn.
I did a lot of substitute teaching in Pflugerville and Round Rock ISD. That particular day, I happened to be substituting in Spanish class.

That school had a "block schedule" so they had days of the week with super long class periods - like 90-120 minutes (I forget exactly).

About halfway through the class period, the office called the classroom and told the teachers to hold your kids in the classroom at the bell and don't let anybody out of the room for any reason. They didn't say anything more than that.

So... after 3+ hours with these kids in Spanish class, we had talked about everything under the sun. Keep in mind, there was no Internet, no phones, etc. So nobody knew anything.

What had happened was... a kid stole a pistol and brought it to school in his backpack. Whatever class he was in, the teacher was showing a movie so the lights were out in the classroom. The kid took the gun out of the backpack to show it to another student who he was trying to sell it to.

When he put the gun back in the backpack, he dropped the backpack on the floor and the gun discharged. The bullet went through the wall into the next classroom which was Health Class where they were practicing CPR. As I understand it, the bullet hit one girl in the shoulder which deflected the bullet downwards and hit a second girl in the leg.

Not as exciting as an active shooter but still a school shooting.

Since my classroom was on the second floor of the building, I later did think (especially after Columbine), had it been an active shooter, how would you get your kids out of the class and get them downstairs and to safety.

• Furthermore, how much responsibility would I take?
• Would I just try to get my platoon sized class out?
• Would I try to get everybody in the hallway out?
• Would I put out Scouts for observation?
• Would I brief the kids on movement / formations / Rally Points, etc.?

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I was in 5th grade at Jolleyville elentary, about 2 miles away from the high school. They locked our school down & we weren't allowed to leave until we were signed out.

My sisters were at McNeil. One was a freshman the other a senior.

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Ask the one who was a Senior if she remembers the day after the shooting, probably in May 1994, when the kids drove the Chevy Suburban through the doors to the HS and left it running.

As a substitute, I had to get there 45 minutes to an hour before the kids. When I arrived (I think I was teaching Math that day), antifreeze was still leaking out and the engine was still warm.

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I remember that suburban. It was a big topic during dinner that night.

1992 stabbing

1993 shooting

Both incidents on the last week of school maybe the last day of school.

Remember that people thought the gunshot was a result of a balloon popping and also remember blood on the floor. Remember the shooter ran off in the woods and they found him at an apartment complex nearby.

Walked home from school like normal. Don't remember either incident being talked about much. Made the local paper but it wasn't a huge deal. No security measures were taken.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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1992 stabbing

1993 shooting

Both incidents on the last week of school maybe the last day of school.

Remember that people thought the gunshot was a result of a balloon popping and also remember blood on the floor. Remember the shooter ran off in the woods and they found him at an apartment complex nearby.

Walked home from school like normal. Don't remember either incident being talked about much. Made the local paper but it wasn't a huge deal. No security measures were taken.

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Both of these incidents were caused by an ongoing beef that lasted all year and culminated in some kid getting shot/stabbed.

Thats different than what we are seeing today with kids getting mad and shooting up a school indiscriminately.

Billy Rankin shot the vice-principal at Workman Jr. High in Arlington I think in 1988 or 1989,,,,,,,, I went to another Jr. high in the city at the time, but had common friends with the kid. He was a BAD dude.

Vice Principal recovered and returned to work a few months later!

When I was in 8th grade a 7th grader brought a gun to school and shot another 7th grader, didn't kill him. He dropped the gun afterwards and ran off. The principal ran him down and held him until police got there. It was at Vivian Field JH in Farmers Branch in '78 or '79.

My wife works at Timberview High School in Arlington, the one where the kid shot at his classmate hitting him and a few others following a fight.

She was close enough to hear the gunshots.

I went to Jollyville Elementary as well in the late 90's. Small world!

TheEternalPessimist said:

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Billy Rankin shot the vice-principal at Workman Jr. High in Arlington I think in 1988 or 1989,,,,,,,, I went to another Jr. high in the city at the time, but had common friends with the kid. He was a BAD dude.

Vice Principal recovered and returned to work a few months later!

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Andy Chambers was his name. My mom was the vice-principal at another Arlington junior high at the time and just back from maternity leave after having me

She has said before that it really freaked her out.

TheEternalPessimist said:

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Billy Rankin shot the vice-principal at Workman Jr. High in Arlington I think in 1988 or 1989,,,,,,,, I went to another Jr. high in the city at the time, but had common friends with the kid. He was a BAD dude.

Vice Principal recovered and returned to work a few months later!

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We now know Corn Pops real name

Texas Elementary School Shooting Victims Fund up to $1.783m now.