More "Never Let a Crisis go to waste!" insanity from Samantha Power

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aggie93
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Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Literally millions of the poorest people in the world could die over this.

Hey, it it allows you to move faster on your green fantasies though it's all good!

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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sleepybeagle
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" Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field"

-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Johnny04
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Is this lady serious? Without fertilizer and every thing else that goes with industrial farming we would have mass starvation. The world cannot sustain all the people in it on "organic" farming practices.
Definitely Not A Cop
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And then when there are food shortages in 3 years because manure requires more land to grow the same amount of crops, more issues with bugs and other external issues, Samantha Powers and her ilk will blame those greedy farmers for trying to capitalize on more profits by not using fertilizers.
LMCane
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aggie93 said:

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Literally millions of the poorest people in the world could die over this.

Hey, it it allows you to move faster on your green fantasies though it's all good!


hated his woman since 2007 when she was part of the Obama campaign!!

it's hard to believe that people like us- and people like her

can both be citizens of the United States.
CanyonAg77
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It takes around 200 pounds of nitrogen per acre to grow corn. I can apply that from a tank of anhydrous ammonia, one tank that weighs around 5000 pounds (tank and all) can be pulled behind a tractor, and cover 20 acres in about an hour and a half.

Dry manure has about 20 pounds of available nitrogen per ton. So I'd need 200 tons of manure to provide that same 20 acres of 200 lb/A nitrogen, or almost seven full semi truck loads of manure.

And one tractor pulling a plow and a tank is going to have minimal impact on soil compaction.

Seven semi trucks? A disaster.
tysker
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So this on ongoing conflict is good for the environment? Same argument was made for shutting down the economy for covid
CanyonAg77
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hated his woman since 2007 when she was part of the Obama campaign!!
She has a BA in history from Yale.

It's probably sexism that you don't want to take farming advice from her.
MaxPower
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I'm ignorant on this topic but isn't most commercial fertilizer just nitrates, phosphates and potassium and what isn't "organic" about those materials? I get that nitrates specifically can be a contaminant in drinking water but wouldn't the same be true of manure if used in a mass scale? I guess the presumption is that it's easier to treat bacteria in drinking water than chemical contaminants?
B-1 83
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C@LAg said:

last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure.
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last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure
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last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure
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last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure
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last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure
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last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure
this can't be quoted enough. There's not enough manure produced from all the cattle feed yards, pork feeding operations, and poultry production facilities to provide even a fraction of the fertilizer needed to supply ag needs. Don't even get started on compost (and the low density of nutrients it provides).


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Dry manure has about 20 pounds of available nitrogen per ton. So I'd need 200 tons of manure to provide that same 20 acres of 200 lb/A nitrogen, or almost seven full semi truck loads of manure.
At that rate, any crop would die from salt burn, not to mention the ridiculous phosphorus buildup in nothing flat. That woman is an idiot.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
tysker
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Biden official Samantha Power celebrates fertilizer shortages that will force farmers to "hasten transitions" to "natural solutions, like manure and compost."

"Never let a crisis go to manure."
FIFT
Funky Winkerbean
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Surprise. Another stupid, self centered liberal.
Muy
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C@LAg said:

last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure.


When you have no rudder or compass, you don't realize you keep going in circles.
D-Fens
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Libs begging for oil and animal byproducts. They will forget and pretend it never happened.
CREAg87
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I had to read one of her books in undergrad for a course the history of US foreign policy. Was terrible and essentially argues that bad thing happening anywhere = US and UN response required.
CanyonAg77
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Fightin_Aggie
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aggie93 said:

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Literally millions of the poorest people in the world could die over this.

Hey, it it allows you to move faster on your green fantasies though it's all good!




F'in idiot

Making policy and she has no idea what she is doing

- manure - traditionally more expensive and not nearly as widely available as artificial fertilizers and not as productive. Also release more methane

They also want to regulate cow buts to prevent manure

It is about time we got the pitch forks and ran these idiots out of all leadership positions before their stupidity causes massive famines

It may already be to late

Concerned moderates - this is what happens when you elect weak and feeble

The world needs mean tweets

My Pronouns Ultra and MAGA

Trump 2024
aggiez03
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What a load of manure, literally!

MouthBQ98
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Another leftist who believes she is much more intelligent and informed than she really is. For a history major, she sure seems to not know or understand quite a bit of it from the 20th century.
Sea Speed
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Such a good quote it need to be posted twice.
Boo Weekley
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aggie93 said:

Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Literally millions of the poorest people in the world could die over this.

Hey, it it allows you to move faster on your green fantasies though it's all good!


They all seem to have those deranged "Heaven's Gate Cult" wide-eye blank stares more often than not. There needs to be a massive movement to re-open state run mental institutions and fill them to the brim with these psychos.
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Johnny04 said:

Is this lady serious? Without fertilizer and every thing else that goes with industrial farming we would have mass starvation. The world cannot sustain all the people in it on "organic" farming practices.
The global elites know this and are good with it. Think The Great Reset.
Sea Speed
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MouthBQ98 said:

Another leftist who believes she is much more intelligent and informed than she really is.


This is all of them. They are all epidemiology experts as well as free speech experts and of course they are experts on global conflict and geopolitics. Any and all things science related? Experts. Honestly I cant think of anything they aren't experts in. Maybe keeping their GD month's shut.
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Ag87H2O said:

Johnny04 said:

Is this lady serious? Without fertilizer and every thing else that goes with industrial farming we would have mass starvation. The world cannot sustain all the people in it on "organic" farming practices.
The global elites know this and are good with it. Think The Great Reset.
I honestly think they don't know. It's just another "rainbows and unicorns" utopian fantasy that they think sounds so good, it has to be true if we just put their minds and somebody else's bodies and money to it.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
PCC_80
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I'd need 200 tons of manure to provide that same 20 acres of 200 lb/A nitrogen, or almost seven full semi truck loads of manure.
7 semi truck loads of manure for just 20 acres of corn. Multiply that by tens of thousands of acres of corn grown in the USA every year. Where would you ever get that much manure ? ? ? Completely impossible.

We are talking about a massive crop failure through stupidity and actually ignoring the science they are always telling us to listen to. Yet so many people are nodding their heads in agreement and supporting this.
Sully Dog
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C@LAg said:

last I checked these same libs were trying to kill of the meat producers who produce said manure.
manure is soylent green
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CanyonAg77 said:

It takes around 200 pounds of nitrogen per acre to grow corn. I can apply that from a tank of anhydrous ammonia, one tank that weighs around 5000 pounds (tank and all) can be pulled behind a tractor, and cover 20 acres in about an hour and a half.

Dry manure has about 20 pounds of available nitrogen per ton. So I'd need 200 tons of manure to provide that same 20 acres of 200 lb/A nitrogen, or almost seven full semi truck loads of manure.

And one tractor pulling a plow and a tank is going to have minimal impact on soil compaction.

Seven semi trucks? A disaster.


Your average liberal trying to formulate a response to your logic, math and sound reasoning.

CanyonAg77
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Sea Speed said:

Such a good quote it need to be posted twice.
Sorry, you posted while I was looking for the image.
Caliber
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This 'history major' needs to study the history of fertilizer in the 19th and 20th centuries. It was a very big deal and was solved through modern chemistry because we couldn't do it with freaking composting and manure.

Hell there was even a war fought over natural fertilizer sources (saltpeter in the Atacama Desert).

The development of the Haber process basically invented high pressure chemistry and related metallurgy that made a ton of other products possible.

But that is one of those behind the scenes parts of history that no one really ever learns about.
CanyonAg77
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Multiply that by tens of thousands of acres of corn grown in the USA every year. Where would you ever get that much manure ? ? ? Completely impossible

Tens of thousands? How about 92,000,000 acres, or 143,750 square miles.

That's an area bigger than any 46 of the 50 states, and over half the size of Texas

Area in square miles

Alaska 570,641

Texas 261,914

California 155,973

Montana 145,556

Definitely Not A Cop
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PaulC_80 said:

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I'd need 200 tons of manure to provide that same 20 acres of 200 lb/A nitrogen, or almost seven full semi truck loads of manure.
7 semi truck loads of manure for just 20 acres of corn. Multiply that by tens of thousands of acres of corn grown in the USA every year. Where would you ever get that much manure ? ? ? Completely impossible.

We are talking about a massive crop failure through stupidity and actually ignoring the science they are always telling us to listen to. Yet so many people are nodding their heads in agreement and supporting this.


Especially with CNN+ cratering like it did.
Kozmozag
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If I didn't know better, I would think they want less black and brown and yellow people.
PCC_80
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CanyonAg77 said:

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Multiply that by tens of thousands of acres of corn grown in the USA every year. Where would you ever get that much manure ? ? ? Completely impossible
Tens of thousands? How about 92,000,000 acres, or 143,750 square miles.

That's an area bigger than any 46 of the 50 states, and over half the size of Texas

Area in square miles

Alaska 570,641

Texas 261,914

California 155,973

Montana 145,556
Yeah I figured it was in the millions of acres but was not motivated enough to look it up. There is no way we can ever fertilize 92 Mill acres with manure. I really do not think that we could even fertilize one million acres with manure. Just impossible.
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We are talking about a massive crop failure through stupidity and actually ignoring the science they are always telling us to listen to. Yet so many people are nodding their heads in agreement and supporting this.

The science says that without modern agriculture, we'd be phooked.
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