I'm quitting Disney after seeing it boast about pushing 'gender theory'

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WolfCall
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Lots going on with the Disney story. The Karol Markowicz opinion piece in the New York Post is worth the read. No conservatives should be exposing their children and/or grandchildren to Disney products.

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-is-boasting-about-pushing-gender-theory-to-kids/
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I'm quitting Disney after seeing it boast about pushing 'gender theory'
By Karol Markowicz March 30, 2022 7:20pm

The Walt Disney Co. just refuses to let it go.

On Tuesday, Christopher Rufo, known for his exposs on schools and corporations under the spell of critical race theory, released internal Disney videos in which those in charge discuss how they insert the "not-at-all-secret gay agenda" into children's programming.

Those were the words used by Disney Television Animation executive producer Latoya Raveneau, who said she is "adding queerness" wherever she can with Disney's blessing, as the company is "going hard" to be supportive.

The shocking footage also featured Disney Parks' diversity and inclusion manager, Vivian Ware, saying the company has "removed all of the gendered greetings" at its theme parks. No more "Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls." No longer will a little girl in a gown be greeted with "Hello, princess!" as my daughter had been so many times on our Disney World trips. Disney has been pushed to toe the leftist gender line, and it is doing just that.

The executives made the remarks in a company-wide virtual meeting Monday about Florida's Parental Rights in Education law, signed that day by Gov. Ron DeSantis. Disney had made headlines for denouncing the relatively staid legislation, which states, "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate."......

..."Disney is a cautionary tale about ideological capture," Rufo told me. "Disney executives created identity-based activist organizations within the company, delegated moral authority to their representatives, and now those groups have taken the corporation hostage to their ideologies. They wield 'trauma' and 'oppression'; the white male CEO caves."....

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https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/florida-gop-threatens-to-take-disneys-privileges-away-over-dont-say-gay-opposition/
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Florida GOP threatens to take Disney's privileges away over 'Don't Say Gay' opposition
By Selim Algar March 30, 2022 7:29pm

Florida GOP leaders are vowing to yank Disney's quasi-governmental privileges at its Orlando theme park over its opposition to Florida's so-called "Don't Say Gay" law.

Florida Rep. Spencer Roach tweeted Wednesday that meetings have been convened to "discuss a repeal" of the Reedy Creek Improvement District agreement that "allows Disney to act as its own government."

The arrangement was created to attract Disney to Florida in 1967 and gives the company control over some operations like law enforcement and fire units......

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/disney-producer-cops-to-adding-queerness-to-animated-shows/
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Disney exec cops to advancing 'gay agenda' by 'adding queerness' to shows
By Alexandra Steigrad March 30, 2022 11:19am

A Disney executive producer admitted she has been pushing a "not-at-all-secret gay agenda" for children's animation, even as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed the so-called "Don't Say Gay" law this week.

During a Disney staff meeting about the law which bars Florida teachers from discussing topics like sexual orientation or gender identity with students unless they're in the fourth grade or higher executive producer for Disney Television Animation Latoya Raveneau touted Disney's efforts to feature LGBTQ storylines.

"In my little pocket of Proud Family Disney TVA, the showrunners were super welcoming . . . to my not-at-all-secret gay agenda," Raveneau said in a leaked video obtained by journalist Christopher Rufo.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10670993/Brave-Disney-worker-speaks-firms-opposition-Dont-Say-Gay-bill.html
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'They're making a terrible miscalculation that will be bad for business': Brave Disney worker speaks out about firm's opposition to 'Don't Say Gay' bill, says staff disagree and slams the left for failing to respect democracy

  • Jose Castillo, a Disney employee and Congress hopeful, said Disney is 'making a terrible miscalculation' by opposing the 'Don't Say Gay' bill
  • 'There's this misconception that everyone at Disney are just raging liberals and I think that can't be farther from the truth,' he said on Wednesday
  • He argued that Disney's liberal stance on the bill isolated conservative workers who 'voted for our state legislator,' which passed the bill
  • Castillo also agreed with Fox News' Laura Ingraham that supporting the 'small minority' of 'loud' LGBT workers at Disney could cause a boycott
  • Ingraham suggested that conservatives might stop coming to the park as they don't feel welcome and Castillo said conservatives workers need to be 'loud'
By ALYSSA GUZMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 01:49 EDT, 31 March 2022 | UPDATED: 09:09 EDT, 31 March 2022
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My Name Is Judge
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Glad to see the mouse finally getting curb stomped the way they deserve
Rapier108
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The Mouse needs to die.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
HollywoodBQ
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I quit Disney after they outsourced my job in 2005.
It was fun while it lasted.
Marcus Brutus
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I was told by a lib that we all use Disney, even if we don't want to.
FamousAgg
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"Diversity and inclusion officer" what a joke of a position
Tom Kazansky 2012
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Yeah my wife and I are pretty much in agreement that we aren't going to have tvs on in the house unless we are with the kids watching it. Im a new dad with an 8 month old, but I think I'm thinking its going to be a B being a parent with all this stuff.
MarathonAg12
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I'm a huge Star Wars fan and nerd.

This will be tough
MouthBQ98
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"Woke"organizations that have adopted identity politics and critical theory as policy are no longer concerned with the primary goal of their investors or the wants of their customers. They become like cells infected with a virus: the machinery of coopted to train, fund, and support a new cadre of ideological critical theory converts to then spread throughout the remainder of the business and then throughout that industry and spread their cult like ideology. The entirety of the corporation may become fundamentally compromised and subjugated to this task as this is what the ideology demands. It will cease to be an effective business competitor over time UNLESS the great majority of its industry is likewise compromised as well as any regulatory institutions, and they begin to work in ideological concert to attempt to prevent new competitors from emerging using a sort of legally endorsed cartel strategy.
No Spin Ag
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People have been saying for years that they're quiting Disney, and years later they're still saying the same thing. The same with Twitter and the NFL. Until Disneyland and Disney world look empty, movie ticket sales plummet, and ESPN and other channel ratings plummet, then Disney won't change anything, because either the people saying they're going to quit them actually aren't, or there aren't that many that are actually that upset to actually quit all things Disney.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Marcus Brutus said:

I was told by a lib that we all use Disney, even if we don't want to.
I posted that. Most of you do.

Do you pay for tv in some way (satellite, cable, streaming like YouTube TV)? You're paying Disney, their programming is the most expensive part of your bill in terms of costs by your service provider.
SpreadsheetAg
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I have 3 girls aged 3-8 ; it's tough….

But RightNow media puts out some "okay" shows that are family friendly and biblical. I do wish there was a traditionally family friendly rival to Disney media that we didn't have to think / worry about content.
aggieland09
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F Disney and we should have a long time ago
Panama Red
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I do believe that some people are sincere in saying they are going to quit Disney, etc. etc. Its easier said than done though given they own ABC and ESPN.

But it has also become a way to virtue signal for many. Example:



TXAGFAN
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Panama Red said:

I do believe that some people are sincere in saying they are going to quit Disney, etc. etc. Its easier said than done though given they own ABC and ESPN.

But it has also become a way to virtue signal for many. Example:




Love that.
MarathonAg12
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SpreadsheetAg said:

I have 3 girls aged 3-8 ; it's tough….

But RightNow media puts out some "okay" shows that are family friendly and biblical. I do wish there was a traditionally family friendly rival to Disney media that we didn't have to think / worry about content.


I have two in that exact same range. Frozen is life.
TXAGBQ76
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That's probably not far from the truth, as they own at least 20 media companies. These include ABC, ESPN, LucasFilms, Marvel, Touchstone Pictures, History Channel, Hulu, Pixar, 20th Century+, A&E, Warner Brothers, etc.- plus the long list of advertisers on their platforms.

It is crazy how much Disney controls.
Marcus Brutus
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TXAGFAN said:

Marcus Brutus said:

I was told by a lib that we all use Disney, even if we don't want to.
I posted that. Most of you do.

Do you pay for tv in some way (satellite, cable, streaming like YouTube TV)? You're paying Disney, their programming is the most expensive part of your bill in terms of costs by your service provider.


Disney doesn't own YouTube, Google does. I suppose they pay Disney for ESPN, so I guess I help pay for that, even though I never watch ESPN. I use Fiber not owned by Disney.

That's the best I can do. I don't directly give Disney money. Direct revenue is the stuff people should definitely cut out, ie going to their parks, Disney+, etc...
No Spin Ag
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Panama Red said:

I do believe that some people are sincere in saying they are going to quit Disney, etc. etc. Its easier said than done though given they own ABC and ESPN.

But it has also become a way to virtue signal for many. Example:






I agree, it's so much virtue signaling nowadays that it's not even funny. I feel for those that would quit everything Disney if not for having little kids who love their stuff. That's got to be hard, but props to those parents for at least putting their kids before themselves.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
LoudestWHOOP!
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South Park reminds us just who we are dealing with here



MarathonAg12
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Looks like you'll never be watching Aggie Football again.

Go to the games in person I guess
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Panama Red
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I don't know if its possible for us to "quit Disney" altogether, but wife and I did decide not to go to Disney World as we were semi-planning to do for daughter's birthday because of this latest "boys and girls" announcement.

Disney has controlled Florida for quite some time. Will be interesting to see if there is any real pushback from Tallahassee.

Remember the "Big Tech" bill people were so excited about? Special carve out for Disney.

NRA got a law passed to allow employees to keep guns in their car in employer parking lots. Guess who got an exemption?
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MarathonAg12 said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

I have 3 girls aged 3-8 ; it's tough….

But RightNow media puts out some "okay" shows that are family friendly and biblical. I do wish there was a traditionally family friendly rival to Disney media that we didn't have to think / worry about content.


I have two in that exact same range. Frozen is life.
I'm trying to keep my 8 year old away from Turning Red. Lots of rebellion and some other really unhealthy stuff being shoved at pre-teens and I'm not a fan of that one.
No Spin Ag
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Panama Red said:

I don't know if its possible for us to "quit Disney" altogether, but wife and I did decide not to go to Disney World as we were semi-planning to do for daughter's birthday because of this latest "boys and girls" announcement.

Disney has controlled Florida for quite some time. Will be interesting to see if there is any real pushback from Tallahassee.

Remember the "Big Tech" bill people were so excited about? Special carve out for Disney.

NRA got a law passed to allow employees to keep guns in their car in employer parking lots. Guess who got an exemption?


In Florida?! That's shocking because that's as red a state as you're going to get. Damn that's a lot of political influence.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
Jock 07
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Found a channel with all the old looney toons and Tom and jerry, stuff like that. I know that's good and that's what my son has been watching.
MouthBQ98
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I have quit the NFL, for the most part. Seen parts of about 3 games in the last 2 years.

Disney is harder to mitigate because they do have good products still that pre-date their ideological collapse into political lunacy. I'll definitely scale back my purchasing as they scale up their offenses to my sensibilities and reason.
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MarathonAg12 said:

Looks like you'll never be watching Aggie Football again.

Go to the games in person I guess



NOT ANOTHER DIME!
Horse with No Name
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MouthBQ98 said:

"Woke"organizations that have adopted identity politics and critical theory as policy are no longer concerned with the primary goal of their investors or the wants of their customers. They become like cells infected with a virus: the machinery of coopted to train, fund, and support a new cadre of ideological critical theory converts to then spread throughout the remainder of the business and then throughout that industry and spread their cult like ideology. The entirety of the corporation may become fundamentally compromised and subjugated to this task as this is what the ideology demands. It will cease to be an effective business competitor over time UNLESS the great majority of its industry is likewise compromised as well as any regulatory institutions, and they begin to work in ideological concert to attempt to prevent new competitors from emerging using a sort of legally endorsed cartel strategy.

I think we can point to mainline protestant denominations as the canary in the coalmine on these types of takeovers. Having grown up in the ELCA, it's pretty obvious that this began 30-40 years ago. As you predict, it is dying off at an accelerating pace. The takeover has moved onto corp world now, we'll see if new competitors spring up before legislation and finance choke off opportunities.
Ridin' 'cross the desert. . .
MarathonAg12
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Tanya 93 said:

MarathonAg12 said:

Looks like you'll never be watching Aggie Football again.

Go to the games in person I guess


No Aggie Football at all?!

NOT ANOTHER DIME!
SpreadsheetAg
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Another approach would be to redefine the G, PG, PG-13, etc. ratings. So that anything with Trans / etc. themes are correctly annotated as PG-13 or above and/or the notice at the beginning of a media / show accurately describe what themes are presented in the show:

Violence
Foul Language
Sexual Content
Nudity
LGBTQ Content
Gender Identity

Currently, you can set your child profile to G or PG, etc. But you cannot filter out for specific themes... So if Disney, Amazon, Netflix, etc. decide that putting a gay couple or Trans person in a TV Show or Movie is G rated so long as it meets those guidelines, you can't filter those selections out... I'd like to be able to.

Something like this is nice:


(above means it's rated as suitable for ages 14+, but contains :
  • D Sexual or suggestive dialogue (cannot be used with the TV-MA rating)
  • L Coarse or crude language
  • S Sexual situations
  • V Violence

But I'd rather be able to filter / block on the bullet list than just the rating.

In the Film Industry you get this from the MPAA, but the MPAA is a trade organization, not a government entity... they will rate a show PG-13 for smoking a cigarette, but not for gender identity issues.
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Rating components
Violence
Depictions of violence are permitted under all ratings but must be moderated for the lower ones. Violence must be kept to a minimum in G-rated films and must not be intense in PG-rated films. Depictions of intense violence are permitted under the PG-13 rating, but violence that is both realistic and extreme or persistent will generally require at least an R rating.

Language
Snippets of language that go "beyond polite conversation" are permitted in G-rated films, but no stronger words are present. Profanity may be present in PG rated films, and use of one of the harsher "sexually-derived words" as an expletive will initially incur at least a PG-13 rating. More than one occurrence will usually incur an R rating as will the usage of such an expletive in a sexual context. Known as the "automatic language rule", the rule has been applied differently depending on the subject matter of the film.

Substances
Drug use content is restricted to PG-13 and above. An example of an otherwise PG film being assigned a PG-13 rating for a drug reference (momentary, along with brief language) is Whale Rider. The film contained only mild profanity, but was rated PG-13 because of a scene where drug paraphernalia were briefly visible. Critic Roger Ebert criticized the MPAA for the rating and called it "a wild overreaction".
In May 2007, the MPAA announced that depictions of cigarette smoking would be considered in a film's rating. Anti-smoking advocates stated that the child-friendly PG rating was inappropriate for the 2011 Nickelodeon-animated film Rango, which included over 60 depictions of characters smoking.

Nudity
Nudity is restricted to PG and above, and anything that constitutes more than brief nudity will require at least a PG-13 rating. Nudity that is sexually oriented will generally require an R rating. Since 2006, films have been flagged by the MPA for carrying nudity. In 2010, the MPA flagged three films specifically for "male nudity", precipitated by parental pressure in response to Brno. In 2018, MPAA Ratings Chair Joan Graves clarified the MPA's position by stating that "we don't usually define [nudity] as male or female ... usually, we just mention partial nudity, [or] graphic nudity."

Sex
The MPAA does not have any explicit criteria for sexual content other than excluding sex scenes from G-rated films.

So the ratings system is flawed anyways because it's authored by a trade organization that represents the 6-8 biggest producers of content. The rating system is not really well defined and the US Government has no involvement in it (maybe for the best there).
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Marcus Brutus said:

TXAGFAN said:

Marcus Brutus said:

I was told by a lib that we all use Disney, even if we don't want to.
I posted that. Most of you do.

Do you pay for tv in some way (satellite, cable, streaming like YouTube TV)? You're paying Disney, their programming is the most expensive part of your bill in terms of costs by your service provider.


Disney doesn't own YouTube, Google does. I suppose they pay Disney for ESPN, so I guess I help pay for that, even though I never watch ESPN. I use Fiber not owned by Disney.

That's the best I can do. I don't directly give Disney money. Direct revenue is the stuff people should definitely cut out, ie going to their parks, Disney+, etc...
You don't know what YouTube TV is clearly and that's ok.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

Yeah my wife and I are pretty much in agreement that we aren't going to have tvs on in the house unless we are with the kids watching it. Im a new dad with an 8 month old, but I think I'm thinking its going to be a B being a parent with all this stuff.
As a parent of two teenagers I'll advise you that you can't be vigilant enough. There's so much garbage out there being fed to our children. Protect them as much as you can. TV is only half of it. Youtube, tik tok, instagram... It all has to be monitored. Some say you can't shelter your kids. Trust me. They won't be harmed by not being allowed access to the crap that's available on TV and online.
Let's go, Brandon!
Scotty Appleton
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The one thing Disney owns that is tough to quit is ESPN+. It is the only place to catch UFC (which ironically is the most conservative leaning & outspoken collection of athletes) and things like college wrestling. College football as well, but year in and out my interest diminishes there.
EclipseAg
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As I wrote on another thread, Disney's theme parks division accounts for about 40 percent of revenues and is the most consistent earner in the company (movies and television can be boom or bust).

If people really want to hurt Disney, they'll focus on avoiding the theme parks/cruise line and stop buying merchandise.

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