Trump on Ukraine -----> Windmills.

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GeorgiAg
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It's typical Trumpy ramble talk, but I think I understand what he's trying to say.

A) I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin. Him talking about how much "Putin loves Ukraine, wanted Ukraine." When he says "it never would have happened," what is the solution? I can't see anything other than guaranteeing they'd never be part of Ukraine and somehow getting rid of Zalenskyy or looking the other way when Russia got rid of him and installed someone favorable to them. I don't agree with him on this point.

B) On how he sees Ukraine playing out: "Windmills suck!" That's pretty insane talk - he's a little unhinged, but if you read behind the lines, I get the point. We can't go to green energy now and hand over the keys to Europe to Russia. We to focus on oil and gas and hopeful transition to greener technology gradually in the future. And windmills alone are dumb and will never replace oil and gas.

(Why can't he speak like that? Instead it's "Windmills kill birds and rust!)

DeSantis, please.

Signed,

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DrEvazanPhD
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But muh mean tweets!
samurai_science
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ABATTBQ87
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GeorgiAg said:



It's typical Trumpy ramble talk, but I think I understand what he's trying to say.

A) I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin. Him talking about how much "Putin loves Ukraine, wanted Ukraine." When he says "it never would have happened," what is the solution? I can't see anything other than guaranteeing they'd never be part of Ukraine and somehow getting rid of Zalenskyy or looking the other way when Russia got rid of him and installed someone favorable to them. I don't agree with him on this point.

B) On how he sees Ukraine playing out: "Windmills suck!" That's pretty insane talk - he's a little unhinged, but if you read behind the lines, I get the point. We can't go to green energy now and hand over the keys to Europe to Russia. We to focus on oil and gas and hopeful transition to greener technology gradually in the future. And windmills alone are dumb and will never replace oil and gas.

(Why can't he speak like that? Instead it's "Windmills kill birds and rust!)

DeSantis, please.

Signed,

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You voted for Biden and are one of 81 million reasons we are in this mess

Start focusing on the loser team of Bidensux and harriswallows and all of their disastrous actions and comments
Guy on a Buffalo
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He's saying that Russia (corroborated by George Soros, BTW) helped push green energy initiatives in the United States which have weakened us now that we are in a battle for oil.

Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid. It's a micro example of how green initiatives were pushed on us by parties who are not interested in securing the best future for everyone, only grifting on social justice causes.

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GeorgiAg
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Guy on a Buffalo said:

He's saying that Russia (corroborated by George Soros, BTW) helped push green energy initiatives in the United States which have weekenders now that we are in a battle for oil.

Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid. It's a micro example of how green initiatives were pushed on us by parties who are not interested in securing the best future for everyone, only grifting on social justice causes.
Yes, and I actually agree with him.
Stinky T
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It's no secret that he tends to ramble and get off point. I really don't like listening to him. Never have. But in the end, you have to look at actions and not just words. This country was better under Trump than it is today under Biden.
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Guy on a Buffalo said:

Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid. It's a micro example of how green initiatives were pushed on us by parties who are not interested in securing the best future for everyone, only grifting on social justice causes.

Abbott and Tucker said that too but is it true?


https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-texas-wind-turbines-explain/fact-check-the-causes-for-texas-blackout-go-well-beyond-wind-turbines-idUSKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/17/texas-energy-wind-power-outage-natural-gas-renewable-green-new-deal/6780546002/


https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-spins-into-the-wind-11613605698

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FERC and the electricity reliability nonprofit North American Reliability Corp. found that the two biggest factors contributing to power plants failing during the winter storm were the lack of weatherization of critical equipment at power plants and problems with Texas' fuel supplies, particularly natural gas. Freezing and fuel issues accounted for three-quarters of the unplanned power plant failures in the Midwest and the South, including in Texas and Louisiana.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Which-energy-source-was-to-blame-for-the-Texas-16485932.php

ChemEAg08
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ABATTBQ87 said:

GeorgiAg said:



It's typical Trumpy ramble talk, but I think I understand what he's trying to say.

A) I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin. Him talking about how much "Putin loves Ukraine, wanted Ukraine." When he says "it never would have happened," what is the solution? I can't see anything other than guaranteeing they'd never be part of Ukraine and somehow getting rid of Zalenskyy or looking the other way when Russia got rid of him and installed someone favorable to them. I don't agree with him on this point.

B) On how he sees Ukraine playing out: "Windmills suck!" That's pretty insane talk - he's a little unhinged, but if you read behind the lines, I get the point. We can't go to green energy now and hand over the keys to Europe to Russia. We to focus on oil and gas and hopeful transition to greener technology gradually in the future. And windmills alone are dumb and will never replace oil and gas.

(Why can't he speak like that? Instead it's "Windmills kill birds and rust!)

DeSantis, please.

Signed,

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You voted for Biden and are one of 81 million reasons we are in this mess

Start focusing on the loser team of Bidensux and harriswallows and all of their disastrous actions and comments


The problem is he suffers from TDS. The cannot get Trump out of his mind and has to try to only focus his time and effort on him. Kinda sad.
GeorgiAg
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I do have TDS. I agree with Trump on this issue but when he speaks the way he does, I have a flare up.
CanyonAg77
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I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin.
Deranged.

You, not Trump.
1991sir
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Wish you would have agreed with him in 2020…. But nope, no mean tweets and cheap gas! We traded incoherent rambling and energy independence for incoherent rambling and depends(on everyone but us)!
Agsuffering@bulaw
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Bird Lives Matter!
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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It's so weird how concerned moderates, if there is such a thing, cannot see the trees through the forest.


Prime example by the OP
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GeorgiAg said:



It's typical Trumpy ramble talk, but I think I understand what he's trying to say.

A) I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin. Him talking about how much "Putin loves Ukraine, wanted Ukraine."
And yet, Putin has acted in Ukraine when Hussein reigned over America and now while China is in the White House. Maybe you're the one with a horrible sense of judgment.

You voted for this. Despite all your hatred for Trump, he did not embolden our enemies with all of his policies.
TikkaShooter
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Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid.


Who started this false narrative and how long will it last? Forever?
Ellis Wyatt
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TikkaShooter said:

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Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid.


Who started this false narrative and how long will it last? Forever?
It definitely contributed to the problem. We need to go to nuclear power for electricity and GTFO the way.
The Kraken
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DrEvazanPhD said:

But muh mean unprofessional, rambling, juvenile, head scratching tweets!
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
B-1 83
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That was a Tanya level answer - brilliant on a level that makes most people scratch their heads, but makes others smile and nod.

He'd probably get flagged on F16 for "derailing"……
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
Pookers
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GeorgiAg said:

I do have TDS. I agree with Trump on this issue but when he speaks the way he does, I have a flare up.

Trump's way of speaking pisses off pseudo intellectuals but resonates well with normal people. I personally think the dude is a rhetorical genius and find him hilarious.
jeremy
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GeorgiAg said:

I do have TDS. I agree with Trump on this issue but when he speaks the way he does, I have a flare up.
When I buy gas now, I have a flare up. When I buy groceries, I have a flare up. When I see 12 Marines and 1 Corpsman die, I HAVE A FREAKING FLARE UP!!

Please, grow up!

Science Denier
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Guy on a Buffalo said:

He's saying that Russia (corroborated by George Soros, BTW) helped push green energy initiatives in the United States which have weakened us now that we are in a battle for oil.

Just look at what happened to Texas during the freeze last year when we relied so heavily on wind for our power grid. It's a micro example of how green initiatives were pushed on us by parties who are not interested in securing the best future for everyone, only grifting on social justice causes.
But, but, since we "rely" on exactly zero from wind (because it's not reliable), the storm loss of power was not due to windmills. The fact that we got around 1% from our windmill capacity shows that wind actually helped us!!

Time to replace more reliable power with wind!!!! THEY SAVED THE DAY!!!

Oh, and one more thing. Our dip**** governor got the wind award by having 25% of our power dedicated to those unreliable wind mills. Mr. Green Energy himself.
LOL OLD
BigRobSA
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Trump sounds like a moron a LOT of the time. His vocabulary is that of a slow elementary school kid.


That isn't the case here. Absolutely nothing wrong withwhat he said. Very clear, and to the point. Not sure what the **** anyone should find weird or appalling.
Science Denier
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When he says "it never would have happened," what is the solution?
Let me try to break this down for you

1. Everyone knew Putin's desire for Ukraine. EVERYONE
2. Russia's cash machine is oil wells.
3. Trump had the US energy independent and oil prices were low
4. With low oil prices, Russia can barely function, much less invade anyone
5. Dip****'s first day in office cancelled almost all of Trump's activities, including ****ing the oil patch
6. Dip**** also let the Russian pipeline into Europe proceed
7. This is what led to Putin taking over Ukraine. Higher oil prices and making Europe dependent on Russia

When Trump says this wouldn't have happed under him, it's pretty easy to see that Trump's policies led to lower oil prices, and thus not allowing Russia to invade Ukraine.

Hope this helps.
LOL OLD
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GeorgiAg said:

I do have TDS. I agree with Trump on this issue but when he speaks the way he does, I have a flare up.
Most normal people would stop listening. I can't listen to Obama or Biden, so I don't. Pretty simple.
Tom Kazansky 2012
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This thread is a great example.

Law as a profession attracts the most self absorbed, confident dumb asses I have ever met.
Tom Kazansky 2012
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GeorgiAg said:



It's typical Trumpy ramble talk, but I think I understand what he's trying to say.

A) I think he would have had another one of his one on one meetings and just agreed to give Ukraine to Putin. Him talking about how much "Putin loves Ukraine, wanted Ukraine." When he says "it never would have happened," what is the solution? I can't see anything other than guaranteeing they'd never be part of Ukraine and somehow getting rid of Zalenskyy or looking the other way when Russia got rid of him and installed someone favorable to them. I don't agree with him on this point.

B) On how he sees Ukraine playing out: "Windmills suck!" That's pretty insane talk - he's a little unhinged, but if you read behind the lines, I get the point. We can't go to green energy now and hand over the keys to Europe to Russia. We to focus on oil and gas and hopeful transition to greener technology gradually in the future. And windmills alone are dumb and will never replace oil and gas.

(Why can't he speak like that? Instead it's "Windmills kill birds and rust!)

DeSantis, please.

Signed,

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To the topic at hand, this war is allowed to happen because of western pigs loving green energy for the opportunity for kick backs and corruption that allows our leaders to self better their wallets.

If you don't understand that windmills and solar expansion (and our desire as a nation to artificially prop these idiotic forms of "energy" up) led to Putin having a viable path to commit war crimes and take over another nation by force, then you are lost.

No one on right or left truly gives one single **** about the environment. Trump knows this. Many people do not. He didn't play ball and the marxist overlords stole the election with the help of idiots that legitimately voted for Biden.
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B-1 83 said:

That was a Tanya level answer - brilliant on a level that makes most people scratch their heads, but makes others smile and nod.

He'd probably get flagged on F16 for "derailing"……


Dude

Love you muchly

But I am not even posting on this thread.


I already learned about the poster obsessed with mentioning me during my time out.
Ol_Ag_02
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GeorgiAg said:

I do have TDS. I agree with Trump on this issue but when he speaks the way he does, I have a flare up.


You do realize you're an adult, right. Such a whiny beta.
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