The CDC is now admitting that starting in October people who recovered from covid had lower rates of infection and hospitalization than people who were vaccinated. Great. It only took two years for them to admit natural immunity offers tremendous protection. pic.twitter.com/WqmotoX4E7
— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 19, 2022
Even many small businesses still operate as though it is March 2020 and cannot break out of that mindset.Muy said:
I'm sure my big tech employer who has stuck with the "we will follow the CDC's guidance" will ignore this.
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Prior Covid-19 Infection Offered Better Protection Than Vaccination During Delta Wave
CDC says research from California and New York before Omicron's spread showed unvaccinated people without previous infection faced greatest risk
By Brianna Abbott Updated Jan. 19, 2022 5:31 pm ET
Surviving a previous infection provided better protection than vaccination against Covid-19 during the Delta wave, federal health authorities said, citing research showing that both the shots and recovery from the virus provided significant defense.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday that data from 1.1 million Covid-19 cases in California and New York last year showed people who were unvaccinated and hadn't previously contracted Covid-19 faced a far greater risk than both people who had gotten the shots and people who had been infected.
The data on testing, cases and immunization was collected between May and November, as the Delta variant emerged and became dominant in the U.S., before the more-infectious Omicron variant began to spread widely. The hospitalization data came from more than 50,000 people in just California.
"Before the Delta variant, Covid-19 vaccination resulted in better protection against a subsequent infection than surviving a previous infection," CDC epidemiologist Benjamin Silk said. "When looking at the summer and fall of 2021, when Delta became predominant in this country, however, surviving a previous infection now provided greater protection."
The CDC also said the timing of the research coincided with many people likely experiencing waning vaccine-induced immunity and occurred before the wider rollout of Covid-19 booster shots. Dr. Silk said the research also didn't apply to the current Omicron wave. "It would be like comparing apples and oranges," he said.
Omicron is milder but more transmissible than earlier variants including Delta, research suggests, though the sheer number of cases caused by the variant has put further strain on hospitals in many parts of the country. It isn't yet clear how the course of symptomatic Omicron infections differs in unvaccinated people and those who have some immunity from vaccination or prior infection, though reports suggest that the infections are milder in people with prior immunity.
Some people have said recovery from infection should count alongside vaccination as enough protection against the virus to be at work or enter restaurants in areas with vaccination requirements. Vaccines are a better tool in part because of the relatively consistent immune response they produce, public-health experts say, compared to infection with a virus that can cause long-term health problems and severe or fatal illness.
"Although the epidemiology of this virus may continue to change as new variants emerge, vaccination remains the safest way to prevent infection, hospitalization and death," Mary T. Bassett, study co-author and Acting State Health Commissioner in New York, said. The New York State Department of Health said it would publish a new dashboard on Covid-19 reinfection data, to be updated weekly.
Dr. Silk said the CDC still recommends that everyone who is eligible, including those previously infected, get vaccinated against Covid-19 and that it is the safest way to mount an immune response. The agency pointed to another recent study that found that several months after a Covid-19 infection, vaccinating previously infected people led to more protection against symptomatic disease than a prior infection alone.
The CDC said that later this week it would publish additional data on Covid-19 vaccines and boosters during the time that Omicron has been circulating.
The DNC is the largest criminal organization in the history of the U.S. As such, the DNC's main focus is retaining political power by any means necessary in order to provide as much public funds to its members.Owlagdad said:
Thinking the "what if" had Trump been re-elected would he had cleaned house, starting with Fauci?
He failed in lots of his dealings, but went to plan B.
Would he have said, look, "let's go in a different direction?
Democrats have to know this is Joe's only term. Wish they would have done what was right, instead of trying to get as much control and money into their pockets.
It's there, for now.Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:
can this be posted on the branch covidian board?
its from the CDC?
Nobody has faith in these worthless orgs. Even the libs that goal tend in public (especially the media), they really don't have any faith.Quote:
How many of us have lost faith in the: CDC, FDA, NIH, ....?
Almost like we went down a rabbit hole many of us warned some would never be able to break away from. Another conspiracy.Rapier108 said:Even many small businesses still operate as though it is March 2020 and cannot break out of that mindset.Muy said:
I'm sure my big tech employer who has stuck with the "we will follow the CDC's guidance" will ignore this.
Of course they poopoo all over it! LOLRapier108 said:It's there, for now.Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:
can this be posted on the branch covidian board?
its from the CDC?
Good news on natural immunity | TexAgs
I do not understand how the most politicized issue/happening maybe ever in history has it's own topic but political thought can not be discussed. If you wanted to keep the "Politics" out of the highly political topic you should have titled it Medical ONLY Flu Discussion. Now that the wuhan/pick a variant flu is OVER, does that forum topic truly need to be on TexAgs anymore? Should F84 not be dissolved?Quote:
Good news on natural immunity | TexAgs
IndividualFreedom said:I do not understand how the most politicized issue/happening maybe ever in history has it's own topic but political thought can not be discussed. If you wanted to keep the "Politics" out of the highly political topic you should have titled it Medical ONLY Flu Discussion. Now that the wuhan/pick a variant flu is OVER, does that forum topic truly need to be on TexAgs anymore? Should F84 not be dissolved?Quote:
Good news on natural immunity | TexAgs
Nope, F84 needs to stay so they can have their safe space. We don't want them back here, which is where they would all come if F84 goes away.IndividualFreedom said:I do not understand how the most politicized issue/happening maybe ever in history has it's own topic but political thought can not be discussed. If you wanted to keep the "Politics" out of the highly political topic you should have titled it Medical ONLY Flu Discussion. Now that the wuhan/pick a variant flu is OVER, does that forum topic truly need to be on TexAgs anymore? Should F84 not be dissolved?Quote:
Good news on natural immunity | TexAgs
beerad12man said:
Glad I haven't ventured to that board once this entire wave. Sheesh. They haven't changed.
Can't believe people are still that psycho about covid. 2 years into this. And no shock, Gordo leading the charge with post 1. Actually, read it a little closer. His post is decently grounded, and appears to have changed tone from the last time I engaged with that crowd a few months back.
No, and I see your point. However, it burns me up that we deal with their trolls and yet if they do not like a certain post based on it's political depth, they have it removed. We should be allowed to remind 84 how ph23kin crazy they are and they have ruined the greatest economy ever because they are scared POS.Quote:
Do you really want those (and I use this term in the most friendly and understanding way) lunatics back here?
I have not been a fan of Trump shilling the vax. That said, can you imagine what would have happened if he had said we needed to not deploy them and wait for the long-term studies to come out? He would have been roasted.Owlagdad said:
Also leads us to question, "did all the political warfare against Trump make us and him accepting of a product not good enough "?
That POS Young still owes F16 $1,200. Hey Young I hope you're reading this because you're a lying ass and should resign in shame.Clob94 said:
This is better than fake notes posted on car windshields.
beerad12man said:
In fairness, I just read it and it isn't as bad as I was thinking. Many acknowledge natural immunity. Many even seem to be coming around to understand we will all get it, and trying to avoid it forever is worse for society. It's a start. We just need everyone to come around to that. At the very least.
The "roll the dice" comment was a bit much. It's like rolling a 100 sided dice with 96-97 good outcomes, 1 awful outcome, and 2-3 more less than ideal outcomes.
100%. People have argued it since day 1, but doubled down when Trump said it. The cure was worse than the disease by itself could have ever imagined to be.FriscoKid said:beerad12man said:
In fairness, I just read it and it isn't as bad as I was thinking. Many acknowledge natural immunity. Many even seem to be coming around to understand we will all get it, and trying to avoid it forever is worse for society. It's a start. We just need everyone to come around to that. At the very least.
The "roll the dice" comment was a bit much. It's like rolling a 100 sided dice with 96-97 good outcomes, 1 awful outcome, and 2-3 more less than ideal outcomes.
It's not just that board. Millions of people are currently being deprogrammed. They were told that the mask and the vax would prevent them from getting sick. They lashed out at others for "being selfish" and putting them at risk. They were scared to death and the mask/vax were their safety blanket. It kept them from having a real mental breakdown
They are being forced to come to terms with COVID now because they are getting sick, their friends are getting sick, their family is getting sick, and the boosters aren't doing what they were promised to do. They need to come out of their holes and start making sense of reality and it will take time.
Our governments really screwed up a lot of people with their little social experiments.
You have a link for the fever blister symptom?zwhag2010 said:
I think natural immunity can provide tremendous protection. Like the vaccine, Delta does not provide as much immunity protection from omicron as all 3 sons who got Delta (and have significant symptoms) 2 months ago all have omicron (fever blister is a new symptom for kids).
And this vaccine (at least for Delta) had waning immunity which is why the booster helped boost protection from the Delta wave. Similar to the 3rd shot you get for pertussis in 4 months and then another 6-8 months later, then another 3 years after that.
