Paul Kingsnorth: The Vaccine Moment, part one

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Jaydoug
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https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-moment-part-one

Best article I've seen on this Covid vaccine insanity.
Marcus Brutus
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Great article.
waco_aggie05
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What's crazy is there isn't anymore talk about cases, deaths, or hospitalizations anymore. Its just mandates and unvaxxed fear porn.
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Did anyone see Tucker last night---- apparently the new Bobby Kennedy Jr book about Fauci is being suppressed by the cabals. Even advertising forbidden??

Don't know who they are fooling. It was no surprise to hear the blackout had made it a best-seller.

It also tends to confirm Fauci is a crook. You don't need that kind of suppression for legitimate work.

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The covid Narrative is just such a story. It doesn't fit together, even on its own terms. Something is wrong.
This is what I have been thinking for a while. I don't know what it is, and I'm not saying its intentional. Most likely, it's incompetency across the board. I think at the end of the day it's going to be, "Yeah, Ivermectin would have worked after all. Sorry about that."
K188Ag
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This was a really good article. The comments to the article are also great. Lots of people that used to be lefties have now had their eyes opened as to what the left is really about.
RC_57
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Fascinating read Jaydoug. Thanks for posting
Get Off My Lawn
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_mpaul said:

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The covid Narrative is just such a story. It doesn't fit together, even on its own terms. Something is wrong.
This is what I have been thinking for a while. I don't know what it is, and I'm not saying its intentional. Most likely, it's incompetency across the board. I think at the end of the day it's going to be, "Yeah, Ivermectin would have worked after all. Sorry about that."
One of my filters that I view the world from is that nearly everything makes sense if you can see all of the pieces. If something doesn't square, it's because you don't see things.

One example; Lebron being China's *****. When someone identified the $ trail it all falls into place: Nike wants access to China's market, the NBA is effectively an advertising vehicle for Nike, so the best NBA players are paid Nike spokesmen.

In the same way, many of the modern decisions in halls of power make sense only when all of the pieces are aggregated, and the official narrative clearly lacks pieces.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

_mpaul said:

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The covid Narrative is just such a story. It doesn't fit together, even on its own terms. Something is wrong.
This is what I have been thinking for a while. I don't know what it is, and I'm not saying its intentional. Most likely, it's incompetency across the board. I think at the end of the day it's going to be, "Yeah, Ivermectin would have worked after all. Sorry about that."
One of my filters that I view the world from is that nearly everything makes sense if you can see all of the pieces. If something doesn't square, it's because you don't see things.

One example; Lebron being China's *****. When someone identified the $ trail it all falls into place: Nike wants access to China's market, the NBA is effectively an advertising vehicle for Nike, so the best NBA players are paid Nike spokesmen.

In the same way, many of the modern decisions in halls of power make sense only when all of the pieces are aggregated, and the official narrative clearly lacks pieces.
So are you saying that the honest assessment at this point is it can't make sense, as some pieces are still hidden? Could agree with that.

One of the hidden pieces might be who is benefiting - Something don't care for is how Gates name keeps coming up. Even in the title of the Fauci book. It would be best if he was forced out of any role.

Or of course there is the Spyderman variety of missing pieces.

What actually starting to believe less, is that it is any of Xis or Putin's doing.

Something is off for sure.
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K188Ag said:

This was a really good article. The comments to the article are also great. Lots of people that used to be lefties have now had their eyes opened as to what the left is really about.
Some liberals have liberal values. Most of them just turned out to be liars who hide under a cloak of compassion so they can implement their brutal, freedom-destroying schemes.
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waco_aggie05 said:

What's crazy is there isn't anymore talk about cases, deaths, or hospitalizations anymore. Its just mandates and unvaxxed fear porn.
And when was the last time you heard about all the deaths in Sweden due to not locking down?
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I am watching all this from Ireland, the country which has the highest vaccination rate in Western Europe, at over 94% of the adult population. At the same time, curiously, we have the highest covid infection rates in Western Europe too.

The government has not been able to explain this fact, but it is a trend that has recently manifested in some other highly-vaccinated places too: Gibraltar, Israel, West Flanders. High levels of vaccination do not seem to correspond with low-levels of disease; often quite the opposite.

In other parts of the world, strange things are happening too. Africa, for example. Africa's population is the largest, fastest-growing and materially poorest of any continent. Few governments there can afford to supply their people with the pricey corporate vaccines which we in the West have staked our nations on. Only 6% of Africa's population is vaccinated, and national healthcare systems barely exist in many places, yet the WHO describes the continent as 'one of the least affected regions in the world' by the virus. In fact, the richer, more 'developed' parts of the world seem to be suffering worst from the pandemic.

Nobody seems to be able to explain any of this
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In an honest society, all of this would have been subject to robust public debate. We would have seen scientists of all opinions openly debating on TV and radio and in the press; views of all kinds aired on social media; journalists properly investigating reports of both vaccine successes and vaccine dangers; serious explorations of alternative treatments; public debates about the balance between civil liberties and public health, and what 'public health' even means.

But we have not seen this and we will not see it, for debate, like dissent, is out of fashion. The media here in Ireland has not asked a critical question of anyone in authority for at least eighteen months. Google's algorithms are busy burying inconvenient data, while the social media channels from which most people receive their worldview are removing or suppressing critical opinions, even if they come from virologists or editors of the British Medical Journal.

Day after day, I have been waking and wondering: what is going on?
Get Off My Lawn
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To some degree. I think the pharma $ combined with peer pressure explains quite a bit. Power Players on the dole are pushing it and they're dragging others along ("you can join us, or we can shipwreck your political career").

Obviously there are some politicians who just want power (the narcism required to thinking you can lead a nation self-selects for those who are power-hungry), and there are corporations who will choose to make money by jumping on to any opportunity to advance themselves or crush their competition.

But the glimpses of the intended dystopian future state don't seem like they would have as broad of an appeal as they are enjoying seemingly universally in political and tech leadership so I get the feeling I'm still missing part of the big picture.
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AgGrad99 said:


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In an honest society, all of this would have been subject to robust public debate. We would have seen scientists of all opinions openly debating on TV and radio and in the press; views of all kinds aired on social media; journalists properly investigating reports of both vaccine successes and vaccine dangers; serious explorations of alternative treatments; public debates about the balance between civil liberties and public health, and what 'public health' even means.

But we have not seen this and we will not see it, for debate, like dissent, is out of fashion. The media here in Ireland has not asked a critical question of anyone in authority for at least eighteen months. Google's algorithms are busy burying inconvenient data, while the social media channels from which most people receive their worldview are removing or suppressing critical opinions, even if they come from virologists or editors of the British Medical Journal.

Day after day, I have been waking and wondering: what is going on?



So much this. And the other quote you posted. Holy ****, Batman.

From one of the comments after the article:


" Informed consent has gone by the way, too.

While the concept is promoted by the WHO (https://www.who.int/groups/research-ethics-review-committee/guidelines-on-submitting-research-proposals-for-ethics-review/templates-for-informed-consent-forms ), a ruling in April of the European Court of Human Rights critically undermined it (https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/13/how-a-court-ruling-lays-the-ground-for-mandatory-covid-19-vaccination ).

Work out the logic of this statement if you can: "The ECHR ruled last week that compulsory vaccination can be considered "necessary in a democratic society"."
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HollywoodBQ said:

waco_aggie05 said:

What's crazy is there isn't anymore talk about cases, deaths, or hospitalizations anymore. Its just mandates and unvaxxed fear porn.
And when was the last time you heard about all the deaths in Sweden due to not locking down?


Or Texas. Or Florida.
jagvocate
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I pay Kingsnorth 5 Pounds a month for his SubStack, his writing is that good.

Rock1982
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Must read!
richardag
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Jaydoug said:

https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-moment-part-one

Best article I've seen on this Covid vaccine insanity.

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  • I am watching all this from Ireland, the country which has the highest vaccination rate in Western Europe, at over 94% of the adult population. At the same time, curiously, we have the highest covid infection rates in Western Europe too. The government has not been able to explain this fact, but it is a trend that has recently manifested in some other highly-vaccinated places too: Gibraltar, Israel, West Flanders. High levels of vaccination do not seem to correspond with low-levels of disease; often quite the opposite.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Ayto Siks
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Outstsnding article. My takeaways below. These points should be clear to everyone by now.

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What is happening on the surface is revealing what has always lain beneath, but which in normal times is hidden from view. All of the action now is in the underworld


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Covid is a revelation. It has lain bare splits in the social fabric that were always there but could be ignored in better times. It has revealed the compliance of the legacy media and the power of Silicon Valley to curate and control the public conversation. It has confirmed the sly dishonesty of political leaders, and their ultimate obeisance to corporate power. It has shown up 'The Science' for the compromised ideology it is.


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Most of all, though, what the covid apocalypse has revealed to me is that when people are frightened, they can be easily controlled.


Edit to add the disturbing conclusion: govs, media, and technology corps can use their power to ensure only obedient people will have access to society.
e cartman
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Absolutely profound (and downright scary) piece. Thanks for sharing Jaydoug
Bird Poo
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Must read!
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Ayto Siks said:

Outstsnding article. My takeaways below. These points should be clear to everyone by now.

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What is happening on the surface is revealing what has always lain beneath, but which in normal times is hidden from view. All of the action now is in the underworld


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Covid is a revelation. It has lain bare splits in the social fabric that were always there but could be ignored in better times. It has revealed the compliance of the legacy media and the power of Silicon Valley to curate and control the public conversation. It has confirmed the sly dishonesty of political leaders, and their ultimate obeisance to corporate power. It has shown up 'The Science' for the compromised ideology it is.


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Most of all, though, what the covid apocalypse has revealed to me is that when people are frightened, they can be easily controlled.


Edit to add the disturbing conclusion: govs, media, and technology corps can use their power to ensure only obedient people will have access to society.


That was the plan from day 1 with these insane covid mandates, especially for the federal and military workforce.

The military used to be a very data driven organization, but as collectivism has over taken society, it's been infiltrated with ideologies who ignore data and outcomes, and just push evil and manipulative deceits. Data, especially in the last 3 months, would show that vaccine mandates will not reduce spread, that covid risk is very minor for a healthy military aged fighting force, and the heart risks I would believe should raise some push back against mandates adoption.
titan
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Ayto Siks said:

Outstsnding article. My takeaways below. These points should be clear to everyone by now.

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What is happening on the surface is revealing what has always lain beneath, but which in normal times is hidden from view. All of the action now is in the underworld


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Covid is a revelation. It has lain bare splits in the social fabric that were always there but could be ignored in better times. It has revealed the compliance of the legacy media and the power of Silicon Valley to curate and control the public conversation. It has confirmed the sly dishonesty of political leaders, and their ultimate obeisance to corporate power. It has shown up 'The Science' for the compromised ideology it is.


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Most of all, though, what the covid apocalypse has revealed to me is that when people are frightened, they can be easily controlled.


Edit to add the disturbing conclusion: govs, media, and technology corps can use their power to ensure only obedient people will have access to society.
This true. Its been especially clear that Media is trash and simply partisan since around Y2K and was pretty obvious during Clinton but still a little less off rails. That science engages in casual fraud is a little newer -- its definitely a very fallen institution in this century.

The last is one of the better arguments that it might be in civilization's interest this break up anyway. HIstory is showing things are best when there is a balance and no one has all the power or a super-power. (Rome was balanced by Persia, British Empire by Europe)
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Great read. Thank you for posting.
Ayto Siks
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The covid Narrative is just such a story. It doesn't fit together, even on its own terms. Something is wrong.

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This is what I have been thinking for a while. I don't know what it is, and I'm not saying its intentional. Most likely, it's incompetency across the board...


Exactly to bmks270 and titan's points. The policies don't make sense if the goal is healthy outcomes. Mandates, lockdowns, curfews aren't working, but states are still pressing these ideas forward.

It's easy to dismiss tyranny as incompetency because governments have always been inept. And the media has always been biased. And big tech has always censored. But like you said, the narrative doesn't make sense if the goal is health. But everything makes sense if the goal is control.
titan
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One thing that won't fail you is to see coercive socialism and Leftism as consistently evil.

Its a far more regressive force than any form of extremis Islam.

Its worth a new party and system to combat it if that is what it is going to take.
agdaddy04
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Thanks for posting. Excellent article.
ArmyAg97
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Bump as the article in OP is one that should be read by as many as possible.
Ciboag96
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Agreed!
Eliminatus
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Fantastic article. I don't know the writer but I will be keeping an eye out for him now.

The saddest thing of all to me, is that all of this should be so damn clear to everyone. I've mentioned before how I have studied mass psychosis before and it is both fascinating and terrifying. Because it is so damn EASY to do, if you know the blueprint.

I love psychology and I love history. Study both on my own time because I genuinely enjoy it. And knowledge of those two combined, mixed with our current state...and I don't feel good about our future.

This issue is not about vaccination as he points out. We jumped that shark long ago. This is something more at this point. The basis of his article.

Highly recommend y'all read this if you haven't yet. It's not clickbait I promise. But a deep, well laid out, and thoughtful piece. I hope it makes some people think out there.
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Get Off My Lawn said:

To some degree. I think the pharma $ combined with peer pressure explains quite a bit. Power Players on the dole are pushing it and they're dragging others along ("you can join us, or we can shipwreck your political career").

Obviously there are some politicians who just want power (the narcism required to thinking you can lead a nation self-selects for those who are power-hungry), and there are corporations who will choose to make money by jumping on to any opportunity to advance themselves or crush their competition.

But the glimpses of the intended dystopian future state don't seem like they would have as broad of an appeal as they are enjoying seemingly universally in political and tech leadership so I get the feeling I'm still missing part of the big picture.


I've wondered the same thing. There are so many explanations floating around out there.
One thing I am sure of this is no random occurrence and I suspect the end game is as sinister as anyone could imagine.
Never, under ANY circumstance agree to let the powers that be disarm We the People!
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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needs a bump again. Read
stetson
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Great read. Thank you for posting it.

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I have watched much of the political left transition openly into the authoritarian movement it probably always was, and countless 'liberals' campaigning against liberty. As freedom after freedom has been taken away, I have watched intellectual after intellectual justify it all.

A little late to the party, but always welcomed when people see the light.
Jaydoug
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Truth. He's a former atheist/agnostic classic liberal turned Orthodox Christian. Great thinker and eloquent writer.
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