Chucky Gruden is racist and his team doesn't care

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32377814/las-vegas-raiders-players-react-jon-gruden-2011-emails-coach-apologizes-again

If this were last year, he might have been fired. This year common sense may be returning and it's made the NFL more watchable.
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who is Black, had "lips the size of michellin tires" in 2011. Gruden also made a vulgar comment about NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
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Gruden also made a vulgar comment about NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
So has practically everyone else in the league.
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Gruden addressed the players in a Friday morning meeting, letting them know that an article was coming out in The Wall Street Journal reporting that he, then working for ESPN as the lead analyst on Monday Night Football, had emailed then-Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen and said NFL Players Association president DeMaurice Smith, who is Black, had "lips the size of michellin tires" in 2011. Gruden also made a vulgar comment about NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
This isn't racist. Some people have enormous lips. Many of those people are black. Pointing out someone's enormous lips, nose or whatever may be insensitive, but it is not racist. What, are we all supposed to pretend someone doesn't have enormous lips? To acknowledge it somehow makes you racist?
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Burrus86 said:

Good thing he doesn't have a big nose, too

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Tori Spelling says Hi!
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Radio hosts on "2 pro's and a cup of joe" were talking about this, black guy swore that he used the word "black" Michelin tires saying that made it why it was racist then went on a tangent saying that people in military and coaches used bad language and the public would be shocked at what they said as if he were then defending what Gruden said. Then one of the white guys said "I can't say if he's racist (gruden said he's not racist) but you( the black guy on the show) can. "

So basically we've given black people the right to judge people that we don't afford other people as if they can magically know intent and besmirch someone's character without context or much content or history.
Gig'em
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FTAggies said:

So basically we've given black people the right to judge people that we don't afford other people as if they can magically know intent and besmirch someone's character without context or much content or history.
Welcome to 2021!
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html

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Gruden, now the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, casually and frequently unleashed misogynistic and homophobic language over several years to denigrate people around the game and to mock some of the league's momentous changes.

He denounced the emergence of women as referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of players protesting during the playing of the national anthem, according to emails reviewed by The New York Times.

Gruden's messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during "Monday Night Football," the sports network's weekly prime-time telecast of N.F.L. games. In the emails, Gruden called the league's commissioner, Roger Goodell, a "******" and a "clueless anti football *****" and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft "queers," a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

In numerous emails during a seven-year period ending in early 2018, Gruden criticized Goodell and the league for trying to reduce concussions and said that Eric Reid, a player who had demonstrated during the playing of the national anthem, should be fired. In several instances, Gruden used a homophobic slur to refer to Goodell and offensive language to describe some N.F.L. owners, coaches and journalists who cover the league.
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Gruden's behavior was not limited to 2011. Gruden exchanged emails with Allen and other men that included photos of women wearing only bikini bottoms, including one photo of two Washington team cheerleaders.
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Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-vice president Joe Biden, whom Gruden called a "nervous clueless *****." He used similar words to describe Goodell and DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the N.F.L. Players Association.
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Privately, Allen and Gruden appeared to have few boundaries in expressing homophobic and transphobic language. In one email from 2015 that includes Droste, McVay and others, Gruden crudely asked Allen to tell Bryan Glazer, whose family owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where Gruden coached until 2008, to perform oral sex on him. Allen said Glazer would "take you up on that offer."

Allen and Gruden also mocked Caitlyn Jenner, who received an award from ESPN in 2015 after she transitioned.

In an email from 2015, Allen and Gruden criticized a congressional bill that aimed to force the Washington franchise to change its name, which some Native Americans and others have denounced as a slur. Again using a vulgar term, Gruden took aim at Goodell and his staff even though the commissioner had initially defended the team's right to keep the name.

In 2017, Droste shared with the group a sexist meme of a female referee to which Gruden replied, "Nice job roger."

That same year, Gruden was sent a link to an article about N.F.L. players calling on Goodell to support their efforts promoting racial equality and criminal justice reform. Gruden had advice for Goodell:

"He needs to hide in his concussion protocol tent," he wrote.

Tom Doniphon
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Dude is an equal opportunity offender... doesn't matter if you're gay, female, black, or whatever.

WGAS.
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He sounds like he would be a blast to drink with.
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. . . said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/11/sports/football/what-did-jon-gruden-say.html

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Gruden, now the coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, casually and frequently unleashed misogynistic and homophobic language over several years to denigrate people around the game and to mock some of the league's momentous changes.

He denounced the emergence of women as referees, the drafting of a gay player and the tolerance of players protesting during the playing of the national anthem, according to emails reviewed by The New York Times.

Gruden's messages were sent to Bruce Allen, the former president of the Washington Football Team, and others, while he was working for ESPN as a color analyst during "Monday Night Football," the sports network's weekly prime-time telecast of N.F.L. games. In the emails, Gruden called the league's commissioner, Roger Goodell, a "******" and a "clueless anti football *****" and said that Goodell should not have pressured Jeff Fisher, then the coach of the Rams, to draft "queers," a reference to Michael Sam, a gay player chosen by the team in 2014.

In numerous emails during a seven-year period ending in early 2018, Gruden criticized Goodell and the league for trying to reduce concussions and said that Eric Reid, a player who had demonstrated during the playing of the national anthem, should be fired. In several instances, Gruden used a homophobic slur to refer to Goodell and offensive language to describe some N.F.L. owners, coaches and journalists who cover the league.
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Gruden's behavior was not limited to 2011. Gruden exchanged emails with Allen and other men that included photos of women wearing only bikini bottoms, including one photo of two Washington team cheerleaders.
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Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-vice president Joe Biden, whom Gruden called a "nervous clueless *****." He used similar words to describe Goodell and DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the N.F.L. Players Association.
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Privately, Allen and Gruden appeared to have few boundaries in expressing homophobic and transphobic language. In one email from 2015 that includes Droste, McVay and others, Gruden crudely asked Allen to tell Bryan Glazer, whose family owns the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where Gruden coached until 2008, to perform oral sex on him. Allen said Glazer would "take you up on that offer."

Allen and Gruden also mocked Caitlyn Jenner, who received an award from ESPN in 2015 after she transitioned.

In an email from 2015, Allen and Gruden criticized a congressional bill that aimed to force the Washington franchise to change its name, which some Native Americans and others have denounced as a slur. Again using a vulgar term, Gruden took aim at Goodell and his staff even though the commissioner had initially defended the team's right to keep the name.

In 2017, Droste shared with the group a sexist meme of a female referee to which Gruden replied, "Nice job roger."

That same year, Gruden was sent a link to an article about N.F.L. players calling on Goodell to support their efforts promoting racial equality and criminal justice reform. Gruden had advice for Goodell:

"He needs to hide in his concussion protocol tent," he wrote.




The NFL would be a much better league if Gruden ran it.
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wow
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He may end up at Texas after all.
HTownAg98
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Putting this in writing is enough reason to get rid of him.

Pro tip: if you have dumb thoughts like this, don't put it somewhere it can be archived.
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Joe Biden, whom Gruden called a "nervous clueless *****
He's not wrong.
Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FJB TRUMP 2024.
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I guess I spoke too soon
HTownAg98
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YouBet said:

He may end up at Texas after all.

He'd fit in at L$U.
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Special assistant to Jimbo?
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YouBet said:

He may end up at Texas after all.


Well we already have the racist song right?
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maroonthrunthru
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More Goodyear than Michelin…
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Were these emails sent from a private email account to a private email account or from his ESPN account to the other guy's Redskins' email account?
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93MarineHorn said:

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Gruden addressed the players in a Friday morning meeting, letting them know that an article was coming out in The Wall Street Journal reporting that he, then working for ESPN as the lead analyst on Monday Night Football, had emailed then-Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen and said NFL Players Association president DeMaurice Smith, who is Black, had "lips the size of michellin tires" in 2011. Gruden also made a vulgar comment about NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
This isn't racist. Some people have enormous lips. Many of those people are black. Pointing out someone's enormous lips, nose or whatever may be insensitive, but it is not racist. What, are we all supposed to pretend someone doesn't have enormous lips? To acknowledge it somehow makes you racist?


My white part-polish nephew has huge lips.
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Chappelle was right
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If you say anything derogatory even if true about a minority it's raciSt. But you can say anything nasty
About a white person as long as they are not gay.
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Jon Gruden did nothing wrong
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YouBet said:

He may end up at Texas after all.


He won't coach again. By choice. Men like him are gonna just laugh and let the wokeness destroy everything it touches. He's not gonna touch that cancer again.
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riverrataggie said:

Special assistant to Jimbo?
No. He's a crap coach. Leave the Aggie football team out of this.
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93MarineHorn said:

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Gruden addressed the players in a Friday morning meeting, letting them know that an article was coming out in The Wall Street Journal reporting that he, then working for ESPN as the lead analyst on Monday Night Football, had emailed then-Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen and said NFL Players Association president DeMaurice Smith, who is Black, had "lips the size of michellin tires" in 2011. Gruden also made a vulgar comment about NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
This isn't racist. Some people have enormous lips. Many of those people are black. Pointing out someone's enormous lips, nose or whatever may be insensitive, but it is not racist. What, are we all supposed to pretend someone doesn't have enormous lips? To acknowledge it somehow makes you racist?
S H I T, have you been to Houston lately, some of these chicks from South America and Cuba are putting that stuff in their lips that make them inflate and look like a tire, and they are white and brown, its doesnt even look good, looks fake as heck,... hell they put that stuff in their butt cheeks too, looks like they put the tire hose back there and turned the air on
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SWC Ag said:

YouBet said:

He may end up at Texas after all.


He won't coach again. By choice. Men like him are gonna just laugh and let the wokeness destroy everything it touches. He's not gonna touch that cancer again.


I know. I was joking because Red wanted him.
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The NFL is trash
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LegalDrugPusher said:

Jon Gruden did nothing wrong
That's why he resigned in disgrace in lieu of being fired, to be sure.
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Faustus said:

LegalDrugPusher said:

Jon Gruden did nothing wrong
That's why he resigned in disgrace in lieu of being fired, to be sure.
You spoke with him?
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