TAMU Student Senate doing stupid college senate stuff

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https://www.thebatt.com/news/student-senate-discusses-university-releasing-indigenous-land-acknowledgement/article_00ec4940-1cd4-11ec-a799-ef888e85cf39.html

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The Student Senate held a meeting this Wednesday, Sept. 22, and discussed S.R. 74-12, a resolution concerning Texas A&M releasing a land acknowledgement to the Native Americans and Indigenous people who lived on the land the university sits on.

This resolution was championed by Sen. Kirk Niekamp, public health senior and member of the Health Science Center Caucus.

"A land acknowledgement statement is a statement that recognizes the Indigenous people who have been dispossessed from their homelands and territories upon which an institution of public education was built and currently occupies and operates in," Niekamp said. "Texas A&M was founded on land expropriated from seven Native American and Indigenous tribes as a direct result of the 1862 Morrill Land Grant Act," Niekamp said.
Now, it is unclear to me which tribes the senators claim lived on the land where TAMU now sits - or at what time they lived there.

I'm certain the Comanches at one time considered this land within their territory, but of course they would have taken control of the land from other tribes.

But here is another little wrench to throw into the mix.

The very first Europeans to step foot in Texas were the surviving members of the Narvaez expedition. The most famous of these were Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca, Esteban de Dorantes and Alonso Del Castillo.

When they arrived in Texas, shipwrecked and near starvation, they were immediately enslaved by the natives. Yes, the first documented slavery in Texas was by native tribes against European immigrants.

Well, I for one will not sit quietly by while the Texas A&M Student Senate tries to pass a resolution honoring either (1) terroristic nomads from the midwest who had invaded Texas from the north or (2) the slaving immigrant-haters who preceded them.
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gbaby23
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The weakness of modern men is a disgrace to the men who conquered the savages and these lands.
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Irish 2.0
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Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
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Gigem314
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I'm certain the Comanches at one time considered this land within their territory, but of course they would have taken control of the land from other tribes.
Makes me think of this:

TexAgs91
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Ags, do better at selecting your student senators
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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Proc92
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If it's good enough for Canada's govt to do publicly over and over again, it's good enough for our own resident marxists.

It's all strategic theater.
Maroon Dawn
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Should we also do a statement acknowledging that they stole it from the smaller, weaker tribes that were native to the area before they showed up and raped murdered, pillaged, enslaved and took their land?

Or is that okay because reasons?
HollywoodBQ
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In Australia, they've got a huge "Welcome to Country" racket going for Aboriginals to get paid.

I have always found it hilarious when White Australians bend over backwards to acknowledge the folks the Brits raped, pillaged and plundered (although there wasn't much to plunder).
Owlagdad
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Tell senator Kirk, I am a Indian, so get the eff off my property! Goes for his fancy dorm stuff too, that becomes mine!
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TexAgs91 said:

Ags, do better at selecting your student senators
The only people who run for student government are these woke, commie fools.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Irish 2.0 said:



He's got some other good songs too.
Ciboag96
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What, no love for the Mammoth? No resolution for the poor Mammoths that used to free range the land?
Bird Poo
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Any Native lands were 5 miles west on the Brazos River. I cannot think of any geographic significance of College Station. It was a train station that intersected with a few roads, that were wagon trails before they were roads.
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Land has always been and will always be taken from other people. The people that originally owned the land were wiped off the face of the earth thousands of years ago.
powerbelly
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TexAgs91 said:

Ags, do better at selecting your student senators
Just get rid of student senate. The only purpose it seems to serve is embarrassing the university.
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Wonder if they will ever commemorate the Comanche raids to seize slaves, torture and rape captives and to loot property:
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" John Parker was pinned to the ground, he was scalped and his genitals ripped off. Then he was killed. Granny Parker was stripped and fixed to the earth with a lance driven through her flesh. Several warriors raped her while she screamed."

'Silas Parker's wife Lucy fled through the gate with her four small children. But the Comanche overtook them near the river. They threw her and the four children over their horses to take them as captives.'

"So intimidating was Comanche cruelty, almost all raids by Indians were blamed on them. Texans, Mexicans and other Indians living in the region all developed a particular dread of the full moon still known as a 'Comanche Moon' in Texas because that was when the Comanche came for cattle, horses and captives."

"They were infamous for their inventive tortures, and women were usually in charge of the torture process."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/amp/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html

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Tom Doniphon
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TexAgs91 said:

Ags, do better at selecting your student senators


My son is one of the Senators mentioned in that article. Couldn't be prouder of his stance.
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Tom Doniphon said:

TexAgs91 said:

Ags, do better at selecting your student senators


My son is one of the Senators mentioned in that article. Couldn't be prouder of his stance.
You did a good job raising him right. I'd love to have my kids be that strong when they are his age. I have no doubt that he doesn't have many friends on the council with him
F2Aggie
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Will they release a statement to the Dinosaurs who proudly roamed this great land, of which there is 0 represented in the student body.
Krautag81
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Heck, we all live on land the Indians claim. They didn't do nothing with it, we have.
jpb1999
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What move is this from?
TexasAggiesWin
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This is what happens when you govern with feelings...

"What matters is that Indigenous students are underrepresented in our community and are not provided many resources or representation," Hernandez said. "And something like this could be the start of bringing those students onto campus."

There you have it! Issue a land statement and that means indigenous students will magically come onto campus.
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Rapier108 said:

TexAgs91 said:

Ags, do better at selecting your student senators
The only people who run for student government are these woke, commie fools.


My son will run that **** if he decides to attend. A&M is in his top 5. He wanted to go to the USMC but the woke bull**** has soured him.
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

https://www.thebatt.com/news/student-senate-discusses-university-releasing-indigenous-land-acknowledgement/article_00ec4940-1cd4-11ec-a799-ef888e85cf39.html

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The Student Senate held a meeting this Wednesday, Sept. 22, and discussed S.R. 74-12, a resolution concerning Texas A&M releasing a land acknowledgement to the Native Americans and Indigenous people who lived on the land the university sits on.

This resolution was championed by Sen. Kirk Niekamp, public health senior and member of the Health Science Center Caucus.

"A land acknowledgement statement is a statement that recognizes the Indigenous people who have been dispossessed from their homelands and territories upon which an institution of public education was built and currently occupies and operates in," Niekamp said. "Texas A&M was founded on land expropriated from seven Native American and Indigenous tribes as a direct result of the 1862 Morrill Land Grant Act," Niekamp said.
Now, it is unclear to me which tribes the senators claim lived on the land where TAMU now sits - or at what time they lived there.

I'm certain the Comanches at one time considered this land within their territory, but of course they would have taken control of the land from other tribes.

But here is another little wrench to throw into the mix.

The very first Europeans to step foot in Texas were the surviving members of the Narvaez expedition. The most famous of these were Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca, Esteban de Dorantes and Alonso Del Castillo.

When they arrived in Texas, shipwrecked and near starvation, they were immediately enslaved by the natives. Yes, the first documented slavery in Texas was by native tribes against European immigrants.

Well, I for one will not sit quietly by while the Texas A&M Student Senate tries to pass a resolution honoring either (1) terroristic nomads from the midwest who had invaded Texas from the north or (2) the slaving immigrant-haters who preceded them.


Stone Toss captured this one perfectly:

MouthBQ98
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There are no indigenous great apes in the Americas. There are no indigenous populations of the genus Homo in the Americas. Homo Sapiens are all an invasive species that migrated in.

There are peoples that arrived here in waves of migration and then periodically migrated and moved once here. There are many people here descended from the North Asian migrants that came over about 15,000 years ago, and the populations that were where they were in the year 1783 weren't necessarily the same people there in 1492 or 500 or 1000BC or 10,000BC.

Human populations are dynamic over time.
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jpb1999 said:

What move is this from?
'Into The West' - miniseries from the early 2000's I believe.

I've actually never seen the whole thing, but posters have shared that clip from time to time.
Crocker91
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His "pronouns" are "they/them". Tells you evrything.
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jpb1999 said:

What movie is this from?

bury my heart at wounded knee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_My_Heart_at_Wounded_Knee_(film)
TAMU1990
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My God, these kids are idiots.
EclipseAg
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There are a lot of stupid ideas being promoted in this day and age, but the land acknowledgment trend is one of the dumbest.
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Gigem314 said:

jpb1999 said:

What move is this from?
'Into The West' - miniseries from the early 2000's I believe.

I've actually never seen the whole thing, but posters have shared that clip from time to time.


Hollywood would never allow that now.

Truth be damned.

With every young generation, maybe this one a little more than previous, they always wanna make victims out of everyone. History was fraught with different peoples fighting over different lands at different times for different reasons. The ones that prevail, prevail because they were stronger. It's that simple.

The Native Americans is a very complex story. It's not just simply that white men came and took their land as stated similarly in that clip above and in reality they were killing each other for hundreds of years and taking land from each other. Again the strongest has always survived from the beginning of time.

History is not there to try to change it but to learn from it. I highly doubt that any of the land that the university stands on was any serious Indian land begin with. If so they need to prove it directly. And even then it won't change anything.

But even so this just constant need to victimize and demean every single thing in our country is just tiresome.

The same groups completely ignore the hundreds of years that Africans enslaved their own people and willingly took part in the slave trade.

These same groups ignore the brutality of these Indian tribes against each other for hundreds of years. They only care when the white man made a presence.

History was brutal.
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So was Kyle built on top of indian burial ground, cause that might explain a lot
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Apache
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There are many people here descended from the North Asian migrants that came over about 15,000 years ago

Asians (now Native Americans) starting showing up here 30k years ago scientists think at this point... maybe even up to 40. I'd guess even more than that, but we may never know.
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