Back when my sister (class of '06) was at A&M, she had leftist profs (like Feagin) but never felt like there was open discrimination against her Christian/Conservative views nor did she feel like there was overt indoctrination attempts (except from Feagin).

I have a senior in HS and she is in the process of applying to TAMU. We are all Aggie fans and I have lots of Aggie family. So on one hand, it makes me happy she is interested in TAMU. But on the other, I am hearing increasingly from our clergy and various Conservative/Libertarian organizations that it is far better to have your kid go to a Conservative Christian College like Liberty, Hillsdale, Masters University (CA), NSA (ID), etc. Actions I have seen from TAMU administration and the recent behavior from mask Nazi covidiots on staff there are concerning as well.

I walk this boundary between wanting my child to be able to be exposed to other ideas and views..... but not wanting her to be cornered into lying to get a good grade or being indoctrinated by an education system that seems hell bent on making our kids into the next generation of Marxists.

What are your thoughts F16?

I have a17 year old who can likely get into Texas A&M engineering. I have the same concerns.

College is a scam and you will be supporting leftist indoctrination with your hard earned money, even at ATM. Sad but true. I would look into some sort of trade if I could go back in time myself.

WestAustinAg said:

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I have a17 year old who can likely get into Texas A&M engineering. I have the same concerns.

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Blessings to you friend. Sad you are dealing with the same concerns. But good to know I am not alone in these thoughts.

If yours and mine end up at TAMU, I hope our two end up in the same circle of Ags.

My son is a senior at TAMC, heavily involved in student government, and leadership in AGLS... he'll be graduating in May and is more conservative today than the day he left home (and was raised conservative as hell).

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

ChiefKiefton said:

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College is a scam and you will be supporting leftist indoctrination with your hard earned money, even at ATM. Sad but true. I would look into some sort of trade if I could go back in time myself.

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This is my gut instinct too. But my daughter wants to be a Nurse Midwife. Requires BSN degree and then a Masters.

If she was not going for either Law or a STEM field.... I would demand trade school... or encourage her to get married and be a stay at home mom (feminists triggered!).

Trust that your kid is like you. My youngest is a senior now, yes the profs are progressive, but she is still politically for limited gov. And freedom.

FWIW, i graduated in 2013 and came out more conservative than i went in.

Tom Doniphon said:

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My son is a senior at TAMC, heavily involved in student government, and leadership in AGLS... he'll be graduating in May and is more conservative today than the day he left home (and was raised conservative as hell).

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

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Good feedback. Ty friend.

If your kid isn't an idiot then you are fine. Theres thousands upon thousands of conservative kids on tamu campus right now.

Kozmozag said:

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Trust that your kid is like you. My youngest is a senior now, yes the profs are progressive, but she is still politically for limited gov. And freedom.

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Kids have their own brains and grow up in a different world. They are not always going to be like their parents.

Teach your kids conservative values. Explain to them how and why leftist ideologs will try to influence them and what they're intent in doing so is.

Finally, for their grades sake, teach them this;

When a wise man argues with a foolish man, there is lots of noise with no end.

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Kozmozag said:

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Trust that your kid is like you. My youngest is a senior now, yes the profs are progressive, but she is still politically for limited gov. And freedom.

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Kids have their own brains and grow up in a different world. They are not always going to be like their parents.

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Currently, my daughter is FURTHER RIGHT WING than even I am.

So yes.

Think about how important it is for your child to be liked and accepted. If that isn't important not a big worry. If it is, then friend groups, clubs and other things will be important factors.

texagbeliever said:

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Think about how important it is for your child to be liked and accepted. If that isn't important not a big worry. If it is, then friend groups, clubs and other things will be important factors.

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Yep - need to go to Bible believing church and get plugged in. Good options in B/CS and surrounding communities.

Hopefully can get plugged into like minded student groups on campus.

She is a social bird, and will need it.

My son is a soph business major at tamu and in the corps. I am not worried.

We have a F Biden chant from the student section on 4 different occasions during the Kent State game. I think the students are thinking for themselves

The ROI of sending a kid to college for anything other than a STEM degree is currently terrible. So... assuming you're sending for a STEM degree, I would expect them to still be able to get a pretty solid education at A&M (i.e. not much time for indoctrination).

If the kid is going for an arts degree, you're already set up for a certain flavor of failure whether you send the kid to A&M, Georgetown, or Hillsdale. Of course, the flavor of failure will vary accordingly, but an Arts degree's only value at this time is if you've already lined up something beyond it and you're simply using the credential as a stepping stone.

We told our Aggies, 11 and 15 that if you had that kind of prof, give him what he wants on paper, but don't believe his bull***** Both were grounded in the church and got involved in ASC and Phi Lamb and their church in CS. Took many a phone call about the lesbo prof who paraded her wife in front of class, the communication prof who taught about photography and his camera collection rather than communication, group work where Hispanics tried to hijack the work and called racism when they were voted down. Just told them to hang on to their values, these are tests from the book of dealing with people- probably more valuable than half of their credit hours.

I graduated in 09 and there was A LOT of leftist indoctrination in all the cultural classes and electives you are required to take for all degrees. One way around that is get those "cultural" electives knocked out at community college. But I still had many leftist ideas pushed from business and architectural/construction courses. I was in the corps and that is mainly conservative values which countered somewhat. As a student I could feel pressure and see how others are pushed to these leftist ideas by professors.

As someone who has friends/business associates with recent graduates and current students at A&M this is a huge issue and concern right now. One of my friends had a son graduate from A&M around 18/19 and was converted to that leftist line of thought. My buddy has had miserable summer with his son before he went onto graduate school. I was sorry to hear but definitely understand how it can happen. My buddy was bummed to spend $50K+ for his kid to go to a "conservative" college in A&M and now his son thinks he and his mom have "stoneage" republican political beliefs.

No offense but if your buddys kid can get converted by a few classes then they probably didn't do a good job the previous 18 years.

Texas A&M is big enough that you can find people like you.

Help get your kids involved with groups / clubs / churches that have similar thinking, and they will be just fine.

I honestly think peer pressure is much more influential than some dumb prof's lectures.

I have a freshman at A&M, and have zero concerns. Already involved in 2 very conservative groups, and has met so many friends that are like her she is ecstatic. They sip latte's in the MSC, make fun of the people with blue hair, and talk about what was written that morning on the Daily Wire, before going out and doing service projects for churches on the weekends.

She has many more friends at A&M that share her values than she did in high school, and she loves it.

What I would potentially be worried about is the Greek system at A&M. Most of us with kids around the age of thinking about A&M didn't experience a strong Greek presence at A&M, thanks to bonfire.

Getting involved in Greek is potentially setting you up to jump on the social media merry-go-round of one upmanship through wokeness and victimhood. I am sure that A&M has some good Greek organizations, but that is one place I would be worried about my kids getting involved in.

Yes, but the decision to send her to Colorado School of Mines got a whole lot easier given the bs on campus and not having to be subjected to liberal arts majors/professors.

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No offense but if your buddys kid can get converted by a few classes than they probably didn't do a good job the previous 18 years.

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Open your eye buddy. Its not just a few classes anymore. Your entitled to your opinion and maybe you're right. But also maybe you are overlooking how many student organizations, many functions held on campus and many professors are extremely and overtly leftist. I hope yall are right and I am flat wrong, but I believe the concern is valid and have experiences and perspectives that seeing this thread thought yall should be aware of. I'm not advocating don't let your kids go to A&M or they will become die hard democrat's. Equip them with ways of identifying and getting past these view points being pushed. In my opinion its not a matter of if but when they will be pushed on your kids who attend A&M.

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Yes, but the decision to send her to Colorado School of Mines got a whole lot easier given the bs on campus and not having to be subjected to liberal arts majors/professors.

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My daughter had a 1500+ on her SAT's, graduated Magna Cum Laude (top 100) from a Cy-Fair high school, was captain of her team in two varsity sports, had over 100 hours of volunteer work at a soup kitchen, and still got waitlisted at CSM.

Her non-white friend that had MUCH lower qualifications started at CSM this fall.

God help you with CSM if your kid is white.

Has A&M really changed that much since I graduated in '02? I don't remember any of my profs really pushing an agenda. I was in the College of Engineering, but some of my elective courses were psychology, architecture, astronomy, history classes. I would've expected to hear some "indoctrination" BS in some of those but I honestly don't remember it.

This is just not true, I came out more conservative after a&m then before

Its not my fault some peoples kids are stupid and easily manipulated. Theres thousands of very conservative students who stay as conservative or get even more conservative through their 4 years.

Depends on major and focus of study most likely. Push stem and dissuade any other options unless going to a private Christian school if they insist on useless degrees with large debt load, I suppose. Other than stem, IMO it's not worth the high debt load and risk of indoctrination. Stem majors have better heads on their shoulders IMO and "keep their eyes on the prize" more, and more often are surrounded by more logical and focused peers.

Of course, I'm stem, and my earning power was threw the roof and all debts of 8 years of education paid off within 4 years of graduation, so I'm a bit biased by the advantages it can provide, as well as a bit cynical and question the value of most other focuses of study in their own right.

Yes, I love run in sentences. And I also know I'm kind of a dick when it comes to judgement of value or majors. Didn't help that the most desperate job candidates were from liberal arts majors when I was hiring. Most often their previous jobs were working at grocery stores and folding clothes at department stores after graduation.

Abbot does need to get rid of the required bs classes though. By doing so, your "reducing the cost of education" and starving the bs programs that depend on them.

As far as exposure to different ideas...She has grown up in America for the last almost 2 decades, she has been exposed to almost every idea out there straight from the so called mainstream outlets.

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As far as exposure to different ideas...She has grown up in America for the last almost 2 decades, she has been exposed to almost every idea out there straight from the so called mainstream outlets.

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Fair point.

She has been banned on Instagram 4 times... so we must be doing something right...... other than letting her use Instagram perhaps.

Whatever you do, don't let them join a FLO

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I graduated in 09 and there was A LOT of leftist indoctrination in all the cultural classes and electives you are required to take for all degrees. One way around that is get those "cultural" electives knocked out at community college. But I still had many leftist ideas pushed from business and architectural/construction courses. I was in the corps and that is mainly conservative values which countered somewhat. As a student I could feel pressure and see how others are pushed to these leftist ideas by professors.

As someone who has friends/business associates with recent graduates and current students at A&M this is a huge issue and concern right now. One of my friends had a son graduate from A&M around 18/19 and was converted to that leftist line of thought. My buddy has had miserable summer with his son before he went onto graduate school. I was sorry to hear but definitely understand how it can happen. My buddy was bummed to spend $50K+ for his kid to go to a "conservative" college in A&M and now his son thinks he and his mom have "stoneage" republican political beliefs.

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That can be cured by cutting him off and kicking him out into the real world.

I have two college age kids. One is a junior and the other just went off to school. I have no concerns of them being indoctrinated, because I have had them for eighteen years under my roof, and taught them from, an early age, about the basics of conservatism, capitalism, freedom, and how to live life as a Christian. I think that my daughter at 21 is even more conservative than I am in my 40's.

They both have a good heads on their shoulders, and were taught right from wrong. I have the utmost faith that, even though professors will try, my kids will turn a deaf ear to their propaganda.