https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/report-calls-i-35-through-austin-chasm-between-downtown-and-communities-of-color/

The "communities of color" should be thankful to be cut off from Keep Austin Weird

Why isn't Abbott letting people of color go downtown?

As with all of these "studies" from very biased organizations that exist to complain and make issues up, ignore it

whytho987654 said:

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As with all of these "studies" from very biased organizations that exist to complain and make issues up, ignore it

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We do, the problem is the leftist and communists in the Mayors office and on the City Council. I don't live in Austin any more so I no longer cares if it burns down though, the voters have chosen fools to run things.

Sheeeeeeeeeet. We were told as freshmen in the early 90s-- downtown east of 35 is good for only two things-- drugs and hookers.

If you've been east of IH-35 lately, you would realize how wrong this is. It's all mixed use with ground floor retail and condos on top. The real dividing line is Pleasant Valley Road.

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The report mentions the 1.4-mile stretch of highway creates form divide between the historic Deep Ellum and downtown. The Congress for the New Urbanism report is released biennially.

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I first heard of this Dallas proposal back in 2009-2010. Lots of community meetings and public discussion. IMO it's not a bad idea. Plenty of ways to move cars through downtown on I-30, 35 and 75 then open up all sorts of real estate opportunities in the reclaimed area. However, there are way too many political/business personalities and old Dallas family money that will never allow it to happen. Hell, they can't even figure out a simple transportation link from I-30 to Baylor and downtown from 2nd Ave to Gaston......

Removing a raised highway connection on the east side of Downtown Dallas is much different than 8 miles that are THE primary artery through Austin. The "best" option for Austin would be to dig a tunnel from 71 all the way to 183. It would only to take a couple hundred billion and about 20 years.

Little brother reaching out to us for help. How nice of us.

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TxDOT officials said they are working with the community and are working with the Texas A&M Transportation Institute to conduct an independent analysis to look at TxDOT plans, as well as the community concepts.

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The section of I35 I hop onto on the way to work definitely does not discriminate and is an equal pain in the ass for people of all walks of life.

Uh.the complaint that at least has merit these days is gentrification pushing out historically black residents east of 35. Sure when it was built it was a dividing line but times change. Sadly many refuse to recognize that fact and just want to complain.

That area is hot as can be and will only continue to increase in price as the city grows. The good parts of "keep it weird" Austin moved from S. Congress / S. Lamar to East Austin years ago. All the best new restaurants and bars are east these days. Never thought I would see high end apartments all the way out by the airport but they are there now.

HTownAg98 said:

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If you've been east of IH-35 lately, you would realize how wrong this is. It's all mixed use with ground floor retail and condos on top. The real dividing line is Pleasant Valley Road.

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That's changing really fast too. I would say the line is quickly moving to 183.

And yet when white hipsters started buying houses in East Austin, the residents started screaming against 'gentrification.'

MuchosPollos said:

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The report mentions the 1.4-mile stretch of highway creates form divide between the historic Deep Ellum and downtown. The Congress for the New Urbanism report is released biennially.

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I first heard of this Dallas proposal back in 2009-2010. Lots of community meetings and public discussion. IMO it's not a bad idea. Plenty of ways to move cars through downtown on I-30, 35 and 75 then open up all sorts of real estate opportunities in the reclaimed area. However, there are way too many political/business personalities and old Dallas family money that will never allow it to happen. Hell, they can't even figure out a simple transportation link from I-30 to Baylor and downtown from 2nd Ave to Gaston......

Removing a raised highway connection on the east side of Downtown Dallas is much different than 8 miles that are THE primary artery through Austin. The "best" option for Austin would be to dig a tunnel from 71 all the way to 183. It would only to take a couple hundred billion and about 20 years.

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The best option would be to swap the toll road and 35 from Georgetown to Buda. Toll the part that runs through downtown and encourage all pass through traffic out to the edge of town.

96ags said:

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MuchosPollos said:

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The report mentions the 1.4-mile stretch of highway creates form divide between the historic Deep Ellum and downtown. The Congress for the New Urbanism report is released biennially.

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I first heard of this Dallas proposal back in 2009-2010. Lots of community meetings and public discussion. IMO it's not a bad idea. Plenty of ways to move cars through downtown on I-30, 35 and 75 then open up all sorts of real estate opportunities in the reclaimed area. However, there are way too many political/business personalities and old Dallas family money that will never allow it to happen. Hell, they can't even figure out a simple transportation link from I-30 to Baylor and downtown from 2nd Ave to Gaston......

Removing a raised highway connection on the east side of Downtown Dallas is much different than 8 miles that are THE primary artery through Austin. The "best" option for Austin would be to dig a tunnel from 71 all the way to 183. It would only to take a couple hundred billion and about 20 years.

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The best option would be to swap the toll road and 35 from Georgetown to Buda. Toll the part that runs through downtown and encourage all pass through traffic out on the edge of town.

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This is not the worst idea I have ever read.

Burdizzo said:

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96ags said:

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MuchosPollos said:

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The report mentions the 1.4-mile stretch of highway creates form divide between the historic Deep Ellum and downtown. The Congress for the New Urbanism report is released biennially.

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I first heard of this Dallas proposal back in 2009-2010. Lots of community meetings and public discussion. IMO it's not a bad idea. Plenty of ways to move cars through downtown on I-30, 35 and 75 then open up all sorts of real estate opportunities in the reclaimed area. However, there are way too many political/business personalities and old Dallas family money that will never allow it to happen. Hell, they can't even figure out a simple transportation link from I-30 to Baylor and downtown from 2nd Ave to Gaston......

Removing a raised highway connection on the east side of Downtown Dallas is much different than 8 miles that are THE primary artery through Austin. The "best" option for Austin would be to dig a tunnel from 71 all the way to 183. It would only to take a couple hundred billion and about 20 years.

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The best option would be to swap the toll road and 35 from Georgetown to Buda. Toll the part that runs through downtown and encourage all pass through traffic out on the edge of town.

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This is not the worst idea I have ever read.

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Probably why it will never be considered!

MuchosPollos said:

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The report mentions the 1.4-mile stretch of highway creates form divide between the historic Deep Ellum and downtown. The Congress for the New Urbanism report is released biennially.

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I first heard of this Dallas proposal back in 2009-2010. Lots of community meetings and public discussion. IMO it's not a bad idea. Plenty of ways to move cars through downtown on I-30, 35 and 75 then open up all sorts of real estate opportunities in the reclaimed area. However, there are way too many political/business personalities and old Dallas family money that will never allow it to happen. Hell, they can't even figure out a simple transportation link from I-30 to Baylor and downtown from 2nd Ave to Gaston......

Removing a raised highway connection on the east side of Downtown Dallas is much different than 8 miles that are THE primary artery through Austin. The "best" option for Austin would be to dig a tunnel from 71 all the way to 183. It would only to take a couple hundred billion and about 20 years.

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but what would they call it? Chunnel is already taken.

Why not build a long row of buildings and overpasses with the interstate as the "roof"?

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And yet when white hipsters started buying houses in East Austin, the residents started screaming against 'gentrification.'

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Unintended consequences from when they mounted a movement to get rid of the airport and started the "Mueller Development"...

Tax appraisals went up and people couldn't afford to stay in family homes so they had to sell them.

The liberals flooding the town are pushing out the people of color entirely. Austin is the most segregated city in Texas - due largely to the libs.

Austin is a ****hole. Morons everywhere. Idiot drivers everywhere. Homeless and vagrants everywhere. Trash everywhere

HTownAg98 said:

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If you've been east of IH-35 lately, you would realize how wrong this is. It's all mixed use with ground floor retail and condos on top. The real dividing line is Pleasant Valley Road.

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It is also my understanding that the east side of I-35 is being gentrified.

HTownAg98 said:

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If you've been east of IH-35 lately, you would realize how wrong this is. It's all mixed use with ground floor retail and condos on top. The real dividing line is Pleasant Valley Road.

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I used to live east of Pleasant Valley Road in the 80's and 90's. Wouldn't live there now.

87IE said:

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Martin Cash said:

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And yet when white hipsters started buying houses in East Austin, the residents started screaming against 'gentrification.'

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Unintended consequences from when they mounted a movement to get rid of the airport and started the "Mueller Development"...

Tax appraisals went up and people couldn't afford to stay in family homes so they had to sell them.

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A buddy of mine bought a house on E. 52nd street about 1995. When I would talk to him on the phone we would have to pause occasionally while planes passed overhead. He sold a few years later and made good money on it.

Always been that way. Back in the 80s, "Children" from east Austin would come over to victimize already brainwashed tu students, stealing their bikes, breaking into their parked cars, etc. as well as commit more violent crimes.

Apropos of a recent thread about police being violent, lying to suspects and generally being dicks to criminals, about a 12 or so years ago there was some news story about an Austin cop whose face was blacked out digitally and voice altered who was being interviewed by a news outlet saying "yes, we did beat people up" . Doesn't do much for community "engagement" but sure suppresses crime when thugs fear cops will gun them down.

The I-35 Colon.

Burdizzo said:

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87IE said:

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Martin Cash said:

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And yet when white hipsters started buying houses in East Austin, the residents started screaming against 'gentrification.'

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Unintended consequences from when they mounted a movement to get rid of the airport and started the "Mueller Development"...

Tax appraisals went up and people couldn't afford to stay in family homes so they had to sell them.

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A buddy of mine bought a house on E. 52nd street about 1995. When I would talk to him on the phone we would have to pause occasionally while planes passed overhead. He sold a few years later and made good money on it.

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Just spoke with a buddy of mine who is a long-time Austin resident. He says he wished that he bought real estate there 10 years ago and that 900sqft. houses there are selling for $400,000 to $600,000. Sounds like POC are making bank in East Austin.

They've been complaining about this since I lived in Austin in the 1990s.

I-35 is responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to Black people in East Austin.

Apparently it was Utopia until the racist highway got built.

No word on whether the upper deck or lower deck is more racist.

HollywoodBQ said:

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They've been complaining about this since I lived in Austin in the 1990s.

I-35 is responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened to Black people in East Austin.

Apparently it was Utopia until the racist highway got built.

No word on whether the upper deck or lower deck is more racist.

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It's relatively easy to prove "Gentrification" with a little time at the library and with public records researches.

1) Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps - cover historic periods of development in cities street by street, address to address, from the 1870s - 1970s with some breaks in coverage. http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/sanborn/d.html

2) City Directories - gives you names of people or businesses in a city usually from the 1900s to present. Some gaps in coverage in the earlier years. City libraries all over the state have these sitting on shelves. Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio Ft. Worth, Lubbock, Amarillo, El Paso, Richardson, all have good collections, you just have to know where to look.

3) Title search - If you've ever bought a piece of property, you know what these are.

4) County Appraisal District - is the clearinghouse for all properties a county. they have records of who owned a property and for how long (for the most part).



Give me an address, time period and proper motivation, I can find you who lived on and/or owned the property. It's not that hard to prove or disprove "Gentrification".

stetson said:

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Burdizzo said:

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87IE said:

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Martin Cash said:

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And yet when white hipsters started buying houses in East Austin, the residents started screaming against 'gentrification.'

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Unintended consequences from when they mounted a movement to get rid of the airport and started the "Mueller Development"...

Tax appraisals went up and people couldn't afford to stay in family homes so they had to sell them.

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A buddy of mine bought a house on E. 52nd street about 1995. When I would talk to him on the phone we would have to pause occasionally while planes passed overhead. He sold a few years later and made good money on it.

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Just spoke with a buddy of mine who is a long-time Austin resident. He says he wished that he bought real estate there 10 years ago and that 900sqft. houses there are selling for $400,000 to $600,000. Sounds like POC are making bank in East Austin.

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Kalifornians who don't know any better

HTownAg98 said:

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If you've been east of IH-35 lately, you would realize how wrong this is. It's all mixed use with ground floor retail and condos on top. The real dividing line is Pleasant Valley Road.

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Yep, I grew up in Austin from the mid-70's to 80's and today is nothing like then. Ironically it's been white liberals who have gentrified East Austin and renovated run down homes to be their hip new homes or AirBnB's.

In the 80'a, East of 35 was completely black.

Fascinating looking at 1921 Austin