Ain't No Wakanda Part 5: Pietermaritzburg, South Africa Burns

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UTExan
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The once beautiful and peaceful city is now burning due to violence and arson. This is a 2 minute quick video clip.



“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
-Havelock Vetinari
Cassius
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Looks a lot like a typical liberal city here being destroyed by BLM.
cbr
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I have come to believe that sa was a deliberate international elite socialist test case - they saw an opportunity and implemented the original plan there. It worked for them there. It's almost done in the rest of the first world now.
Cassius
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cbr said:

I have come to believe that sa was a deliberate international elite socialist test case - they saw an opportunity and implemented the original plan there. It worked for them there. It's almost done in the rest of the first world now.


Can you elaborate?
UTExan
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cbr said:

I have come to believe that sa was a deliberate international elite socialist test case - they saw an opportunity and implemented the original plan there. It worked for them there. It's almost done in the rest of the first world now.


They had to destroy Rhodesia first. Even when a majority black government had been agreed to with Methodist bishop Abel Muzorewa as chief executive, the Carter administration State Department backed the genocidal Marxist Robert Mugabe to be head of government.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
-Havelock Vetinari
CS78
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You see stuff like this and can't help but be reminded that it really wasn't that long ago that these people were still using stone tools. Culture doesn't change and vanish that fast.
aggiehawg
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CS78 said:

You see stuff like this and can't help but be reminded that it really wasn't that long ago that these people were still using stone tools. Culture doesn't change and vanish that fast.
Had a professor when I was at A&M. He had been in SE Asia with a program that planting a new type of rice would boost their yields over three times their average amount. You know combat, starvation if the rice crop failed.

Problem was, all of their festivals and holidays (for lack of a better term) centered around planting and harvesting times. Messed up their social schedule. So the villages dropped the more productive rice after one year.

That story has always stayed with me as how culture is so hard to change. Starvation possibilities? Or culture? They chose the possibility of starvation.
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When we all agree to live in a ****hole, we will finally have equity. That's leftism in a nutshell.
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Cassius said:

cbr said:

I have come to believe that sa was a deliberate international elite socialist test case - they saw an opportunity and implemented the original plan there. It worked for them there. It's almost done in the rest of the first world now.


Can you elaborate?


I will, Cassius. The Brits and international bankers have always coveted African wealth. The main obstacle? Afrikaners and Rhodesian white citizens (white Africans) whose belief systems and Christian theology did not fit so neatly with the European (and later American) money masters' schemes. Apartheid was virtually the same form of segregation practiced in the American south during the 1960s, but our State Department hypocritically singled out South Africa for isolation, despite the fact that South Africa was beginning to liberalize its race laws to expand voting and social mobility. There is an amoral international financial sector which will do anything to assure control. Why is it that American billlionaire Armand Hammer could go to the USSR at any time during the lowest point of the Cold War and be assured of free entree to the highest government officials?

Edit to say that even today, possessing certain raw precious metals is a crime in SA because of corporate monopolies.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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Looks mostly peaceful to me. People are just standing around watching the fires /CNN
samurai_science
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CS78 said:

You see stuff like this and can't help but be reminded that it really wasn't that long ago that these people were still using stone tools. Culture doesn't change and vanish that fast.


Culture is just a symptom of the real issue, compare their IQ to other genetic groups.

No amount of money or education will change it
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samurai_texan said:

CS78 said:

You see stuff like this and can't help but be reminded that it really wasn't that long ago that these people were still using stone tools. Culture doesn't change and vanish that fast.


Culture is just a symptom of the real issue, compare their IQ to other genetic groups.

No amount of money or education will change it
Dr. Shockley was crucified for even speaking about that in the 70s.
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cbr
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UTExan said:

Cassius said:

cbr said:

I have come to believe that sa was a deliberate international elite socialist test case - they saw an opportunity and implemented the original plan there. It worked for them there. It's almost done in the rest of the first world now.


Can you elaborate?


I will, Cassius. The Brits and international bankers have always coveted African wealth. The main obstacle? Afrikaners and Rhodesian white citizens (white Africans) whose belief systems and Christian theology did not fit so neatly with the European (and later American) money masters' schemes. Apartheid was virtually the same form of segregation practiced in the American south during the 1960s, but our State Department hypocritically singled out South Africa for isolation, despite the fact that South Africa was beginning to liberalize its race laws to expand voting and social mobility. There is an amoral international financial sector which will do anything to assure control. Why is it that American billlionaire Armand Hammer could go to the USSR at any time during the lowest point of the Cold War and be assured of free entree to the highest government officials?

Edit to say that even today, possessing certain raw precious metals is a crime in SA because of corporate monopolies.


This is a topic that can't be explained in a short post. But sometimes sound bites win.

I lived in sa as a kid. Ask anyone: Is apartheid morally wrong? Basically yes. Easy answer. But live what was happening. Then it gets complicated.

The white sa culture and the educated non whites had a brilliant world created. The most ideal place on earth. Think TEXAS only better.

But demographics/numbers/Commie sucker play/sound bites/culture is fate. The financial elite tested their 'mobilize the socialist masses against the real good guys' technique in sa.

The irony is Cecil Rhodes was an Anglophile. But his legacy and the cfr went another direction after he died. They valued their own Uber elite international financial status above all else. No more anglofile. Just the Uber elite using the masses vs the good guys - the incorruptible middle class.

The strong willed, independent, educated, armed, self reliant, ethical middle class was their only real threat and enemy. They realized in sa that with the porous northern border, small numbers, attackable apartheid solution, that they could use socialism/immigration to destroy that unexploitable middle class.

They did. It's gone in sa.

They are running the same playbook on the rest of the first world now.
UTExan
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Thanks, CBR. Here is Die Kaplyn as a tribute to the brave South African Defense Forces personnel who battled numerically superior and better equipped Communist forces to a standstill during the Border War.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
-Havelock Vetinari
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aggiehawg said:

samurai_texan said:

CS78 said:

You see stuff like this and can't help but be reminded that it really wasn't that long ago that these people were still using stone tools. Culture doesn't change and vanish that fast.


Culture is just a symptom of the real issue, compare their IQ to other genetic groups.

No amount of money or education will change it
Dr. Shockley was crucified for even speaking about that in the 70s.
Science and data does not care about feelings, but the studies (and data) are beyond reproach.
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IQ tests have shown to have bias based on educational and environmental factors. There's a reason the average IQ globally has increased significantly over the course of 75 years. Because average IQ doesn't stay stagnant across time or culture, it's impossible to assert to exactly what degree to genetics factor into the equation.

As for the specifics of this situation, I don't recall the author but the basic idea was that democracy doesn't work in countries where a small minority has a wealth advantage. Inevitably a mob mentality takes hold that leads to inhumane government sanctioned retribution / wealth redistribution. While one might be able to morally justify that in isolation, the reality is that wealthy minority typically has skills that the society as a whole requires beyond just their bank accounts. In the case of South Africa, the most pressing of those skills is commercial agriculture but just as important typically are social / political planning, banking, engineering, etc.
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MaxPower said:

IQ tests have shown to have bias based on educational and environmental factors. There's a reason the average IQ globally has increased significantly over the course of 75 years. Because average IQ doesn't stay stagnant across time or culture, it's impossible to assert to exactly what degree to genetics factor into the equation.


IQ tests are the best measure and the studies show that education does NOT change IQ by that much, especially among large groups of people.

The average IQ increasing globally does not matter, because we are not talking about globally, but certain groups in a certain region of Africa. Which has not increased, and we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that its mainly based on genetics. It does not matter the factors that caused it, only that its spread through genetics. The studies are clear.

The community that studies such things is not allowed to talk about it openly, but the genetic and other studies are nevertheless irrefutable.
aggiehawg
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Quote:

IQ tests are the best measure and the studies show that education does NOT change IQ by that much, especially among large groups of people.
IQ can be measured in different ways. Problem solving for instance.

MaxPower
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Education wasn't the best term. I'm not talking about a high school degree vs a college degree. I'm talking about an overall ecosystem that promotes "intelligence". Formal schooling, even as simple as just being able to read, having basic health needs to support mental development, etc. There's a reason wealthy nations have significantly higher IQs and immigrants even from European nations had significant increases from one generation to the next in the US (as much as 25 points). Even individuals can boost their IQ over their lifetimes through experience with the test and "learning" how to take it.

I'm not saying genetics can't play a factor. I'm simply saying it's very difficult to compare groups of people with significant variances in environmental factors when we know for a fact environment factors play a significant role.
Tanya 93
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I love Mark Rober and look forward to his videos


Did you see the second squirrel maze?
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Tanya 93 said:

I love Mark Rober and look forward to his videos


Did you see the second squirrel maze?
The one on the roof where one got lost and another ran along outside the tube to show the way?

I didn't see it but The Hubs did and told me about it.
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MaxPower said:

Education wasn't the best term. I'm not talking about a high school degree vs a college degree. I'm talking about an overall ecosystem that promotes "intelligence". Formal schooling, even as simple as just being able to read, having basic health needs to support mental development, etc. There's a reason wealthy nations have significantly higher IQs and immigrants even from European nations had significant increases from one generation to the next in the US (as much as 25 points). Even individuals can boost their IQ over their lifetimes through experience with the test and "learning" how to take it.

I'm not saying genetics can't play a factor. I'm simply saying it's very difficult to compare groups of people with significant variances in environmental factors when we know for a fact environment factors play a significant role.
I could read when I was 3. Mom helped but I was verbal well before that.

My step grandson is wicked smart and his parents are both school teachers but he was smart as a baby before he chose to speak. They got worried that he wasn't talking yet. I was holding him at the time and looking into his eyes. I said, "He's just composing his opening remarks."

Kid is smart. His parents are struggling to keep up with him. And they are waaaaay more tech savvy than I am. He's running circles around them. He is also very mischievous. I admire that in him because I catch him every time. thus far.
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Yes that one


That man proves not all of YouTube is bad
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