If this is truly how it's done, can they prove it? Again, IF it's true. But this is what Sidney Powell believes to be true.

Whistleblowers Reveal How Software Manipulates Votes to Change Election Results

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/whistleblowers-reveal-how-software-manipulates-votes-to-change-election-results_3581769.html

They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

Cliff's notes for those who don't want to sign up?

If I have to believe Trump won CA by a large margin in order to believe something is true, then that thing isn't true.

swampstander said:

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Trump won, Biden lost.

oldarmy1 said:

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They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

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No way Trump won Hawaii and Cali.

" Maras predicts that Trump won in 2016 because the turnout for him exceeded the expected amount, which the software had been capped at. She alleges that, because of 2016, a turnout cap wasn't likely set in 2020, and again, when Trump voters exceeded predicted numbers, some states stopped counting in the middle of the night and waited for more Biden ballots to be shipped in, to cover a possible recount scenario."

This just sucks so bad. RIP our Republic.

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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If I have to believe Trump won CA by a large margin in order to believe something is true, then that thing isn't true.

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If Trump won Hawaii, I will eat a skin off a pineapple.

I know I've said this several times, but Sidney Powell said over a week ago that Trump would his top military confidant in order to get proof.

Do we trust Manga Anantatmula?

BlackLab said:

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oldarmy1 said:

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They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

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No way Trump won Hawaii and Cali.

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Yeah when I first saw this, I lost a little hope with California being red. Even with the house flips, there's no way this state voted for Trump. We're far too irrational out here.

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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If I have to believe Trump won CA by a large margin in order to believe something is true, then that thing isn't true.

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Good grief, isn't this the damn truth.

Trump won California? Ooookay.

Well, well, well - Look who's here:

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A second whistleblower, who came forward to The Epoch Times on Nov. 15, explained more about how the voter machine software works in the United States and how it can be programmed to predetermine the outcome.

Tore Maras said she's a private contractor who worked for a conglomerate of private companies that were all created under the purview of former CIA Director John Brennan.

Maras alleges that the voting machine software used in U.S. elections was developed by one of Brennan's companies, and allows "full control of the electoral process." Her role during the 2012 federal election was to ensure evidence of vote manipulation had been erased after the vote tallies were complete at the end of the night.

She said the type of voter machine is irrelevant as they all carry the same software that can be tapped into, and an algorithm sets the results. As a paper ballot is fed through the machine, the information goes into an area called a trapdoor, which is where the manipulation occurs. Only with a master key can the trapdoor be seen.

The trapdoor is ostensibly set up, Maras explained, to preserve voter anonymity.

The machines are programmed to feed out a vote tally report at set times or as a certain number of votes is reached. For example, after every 500 votes, or 30 minutes, the results will leave the trapdoor and be sent to election-reporting company Scytl, and then The Associated Press.

Maras said the algorithms are set to match the expected turnout and voter outcome in the county each machine is in. In battleground counties, for example, it could be preset that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden would receive 50.9 percent of the overall votes, Trump would receive 48.1 percent, and a third candidate, 1 percent.

"They make it a little bit more believable, like there's a race. They input it, and then as the people vote, the algorithm regulates that," she said. "We don't care if you voted for Mickey Mouse, the software is going to tell you what you voted for. You're never voting."

Maras predicts that Trump won in 2016 because the turnout for him exceeded the expected amount, which the software had been capped at. She alleges that, because of 2016, a turnout cap wasn't likely set in 2020, and again, when Trump voters exceeded predicted numbers, some states stopped counting in the middle of the night and waited for more Biden ballots to be shipped in, to cover a possible recount scenario.

Maras said the software has been used in many countries including Ukraine"that's how we helped usher in their elections"as well as Iraq, Afghanistan, Macedonia, Albania, Germany, the UK, and Greece.

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They didn't get specific enough in the details. It could be BS or they might be onto something. Time for them to present their case here pretty soon. Powell seems really confident. I'm not sure she has the goods though.

TexAgs91 said:

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Do we trust Manga Anantatmula?

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He is also all in on the secret military watermarking of ballots with future tech QFS block chaining.

Sooooo.....take it with a grain of salt.

TexAgs91 said:

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Do we trust Manga Anantatmula?

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Well Manga's view is a little more tempered than Sidney Powell, who recently said it's very possible that Trump won every state.

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TexAgs91 said:

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Do we trust Manga Anantatmula?

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He is also all in on the secret military watermarking of ballots with future tech QFS block chaining.

Sooooo.....take it with a grain of salt.

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oldarmy1 said:

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They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

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No way Trump won Hawaii and Cali.

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No way the US took military action in a NATO ally country to seize anything without igniting a powder keg.

swampstander said:

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Whistleblower #1

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WASHINGTONTrump campaign lawyer and former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell released an explosive affidavit on Nov. 16, from a whistleblower who purports to have witnessed how election software secretly manipulates votes without leaving a trace.

The whistleblowerwhose background is with the Venezuelan military, including the national security guard detail of the Venezuelan presidentoutlines a conspiracy between Smartmatic software executives, former Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, and that country's election officials, to ensure Chavez won reelections and retained power for years. The whistleblower said he was present at multiple meetings........

The whistleblower said the "software and fundamental design of the electronic electoral system and software of Dominion and other election tabulating companies relies upon software that is a descendant of the Smartmatic Electoral Management System.

The whistleblower said Smartmatic created a system that anonymized the voters' choices inside the machine and then spat out the desired income.......

In the April 2013 Venezuelan election, the affidavit states that the conspirators had to take the internet down for two hours to reset the machines,

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Whistleblower #2

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Tore Maras said she's a private contractor who worked for a conglomerate of private companies that were all created under the purview of former CIA Director John Brennan......

..... As a paper ballot is fed through the machine, the information goes into an area called a trapdoor, which is where the manipulation occurs. Only with a master key can the trapdoor be seen.

...... The machines are programmed to feed out a vote tally report at set times or as a certain number of votes is reached. For example, every time 500 votes, or 30 minutes has been reached, the results will leave the trapdoor and be sent to election reporting company Scytl, and then The Associated Press.

..... Maras said the algorithms are set to match the expected turnout and voter outcome in the county each machine is in. In battleground counties, for example, it could be preset that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden would receive 50.9 percent of the overall votes, and Trump would receive 48.1 percent, and a third candidate 1 percent.

..... "They make it a little bit more believable, like there's a race. They input it, and then as the people vote, the algorithm regulates that," she said.

..... Maras predicts that Trump won in 2016 because the turnout for him exceeded the expected amount, which the software had been capped at. She alleges that, because of 2016, a turnout cap wasn't likely set in 2020, and again, when Trump voters exceeded predicted numbers, some states stopped counting in the middle of the night and waited for more Biden ballots to be shipped in, to cover a possible recount scenario.

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Lmao

Puff Puff Pass

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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If I have to believe Trump won CA by a large margin in order to believe something is true, then that thing isn't true.

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Don't disagree, but I'll play devils advocate anyway.

Why do you think California has to be blue? If they've been rigging local elections for decades, is it really that hard to believe a fair election would result in a trump win? California outside the major cities is very red.

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BlackLab said:

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oldarmy1 said:

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They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

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No way Trump won Hawaii and Cali.

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No way the US took military action in a NATO ally country to seize anything without igniting a powder keg.

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That's been my deal the whole time. ANY sovereign country would have to give permission, and if newsworthy, then that leader would have severe repercussions when reported. Now, if there's some legal precedent pertaining to election servers being like the Vatican (their own country), then maybe.

The fact that question hasn't been asked by anyone is kinda scary. I'm not saying we don't have it, but I'm saying the article was BS unless I can see more information.

I'm a trump guy, but to think that all of the people in Kommifornia that hate his guts didn't get out to vote and trump actually carried the state? That's a no for me.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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I'm a trump guy, but to think that all of the people in Kommifornia that hate his guts didn't get out to vote and trump actually carried the state? That's a no for me.

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Right there with you. I imagine Trump kept it respectable, certainly compared to past elections, but you don't carry a state that's rigged for Dems (not via voting software as illustrated by the map)

To me that map is bogus. Doesn't change what the premise of this article is stating though.

But there are people here who believe Biden legitimately received more votes than Obama.

oldarmy1 said:

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They have to have the main server where the static data resides. Do they?

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this is basically snl....grow up old man

https://g.co/kgs/d5THqA

Go to 1:15

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-nation/2020/10/01/Memory-sticks-stolen-Philadelphia-elections-warehouse-voting-machines/stories/202010010111

The keys in Philly needed tweaking before election day.

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ActualTalkingThermos said:

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If I have to believe Trump won CA by a large margin in order to believe something is true, then that thing isn't true.

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Don't disagree, but I'll play devils advocate anyway.

Why do you think California has to be blue? If they've been rigging local elections for decades, is it really that hard to believe a fair election would result in a trump win? California outside the major cities is very red.

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I agree. There are a lot of red areas in Cali. And parades there as well. It pisses me off to think how possibly big Trump might have won...

Trump won California?


You are more naive than I am

Get that stupid map out of here. I want to talk about the kraken in the Epoch Times. Is this the Sidney Powell promised kraken meal or just the appetizer? This sounds awful for Dominion but this alone wouldn't get a single vote thrown out.

I WANT KRAKEN!!!!!