So are GA republicans going to fix their stupid loophole or not?

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Red Red Wine
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Allowing temporary residence and register by 12/7 to vote in the runoffs might be the DUMBEST thing I have seen in all of this nonsense so far.

They should only allow registered voters at the time of the election on Nov 3 and even that voter roll needs to be vetted for dead people, people who have moved, people with both a married name and a maiden name, etc.

FIX THIS NOW!!!!
94chem
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Sounds like the prostitutes that the pilgrims to Mecca "marry."
ttu_85
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Why am I here? said:

Allowing temporary residence and register by 12/7 to vote in the runoffs might be the DUMBEST thing I have seen in all of this nonsense so far.

They should only allow registered voters at the time of the election on Nov 3 and even that voter roll needs to be vetted for dead people, people who have moved, people with both a married name and a maiden name, etc.

FIX THIS NOW!!!!
This is honestly terrifying if true.
Tanya 93
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I don't think they are changing the rules mid game.
What if this helps Loeffler?
Old McDonald
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me and all my lib friends are signing a 1 month lease in atlanta to vote for the dems
YouBet
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Lol. Wow if true.

This thing is already over then. Remember all of those antifa and BLM protesters shipped everywhere? Welcome to your new home in Georgia.
AGHouston11
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It's like when you knew the mail in ballots were going to be fraud but nothing was done and now this. All the political operatives who are going into the state anyway are just going to register to vote. Not only that but many more are going to be paid to go there just for that.
Red Red Wine
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It is true.

It is what Andrew Yang keeps banging on Dems to do right now. Move 100,000 or more Dem voters into the state, register, and vote in the run-off and then go home.

This is quite possibly the most blatant corruption of a voting system - WITHIN THE RULES - that we will ever see.

Whomever came up with this legislation is a MORON and should be fired yesterday. What could possibly go wrong!?
ag94whoop
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NYT and other liberal media are urging Democrats to move to Georgia temporarily in order to vote in the runoff races.
In essence they are urging democrats to cheat openly, voting on senators in two different states. This should be blatantly illegal.
WHOOP!'91
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Tanya 93 said:

I don't think they are changing the rules mid game.
What if this helps Loeffler?
Why not, that's how we ended up with mass mail-out ballots.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

Barnyard96
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If this is allowed than that means a person can vote in two states in the same election.
YouBet
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Then this is over before it began.
JW
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Country is done
Tanya 93
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WHOOP!'91 said:

Tanya 93 said:

I don't think they are changing the rules mid game.
What if this helps Loeffler?
Why not, that's how we ended up with mass mail-out ballots.
What about the long time residents who registered Monday under what was legally allowed?
Barnyard96
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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/csOMnlXFihSgJ256gUwI

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All the chatter raises the question: Is it legal?

The answer is: yes, but any potential voters would have to move quickly since the last day to be registered for the Jan. 5 contests is Dec. 7. And, the new resident also would have to stay in the state for a while or risk getting into trouble.

Under Georgia law, anyone with a legal primary residence in the state can register to vote with their county board of elections. The law does not specify a specific time limit.

A spokesman for the Georgia Secretary of State's Office, which oversees voter registrations, declined to comment on how quickly someone could establish legal residency in Georgia, but cited state law that it is a felony to vote in Georgia elections if you are not a legal resident or if you are residing in the state briefly with the intention just to vote and then move away.

"These are sensitive issues, and election officials are going to pay attention to what is happening," said Enrijeta Shino, a University of North Florida political science professor who has researched voting issues in Georgia. "People should be very careful about doing that."
BCG Disciple
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Do we know what the requirements actually are? All it takes is one person calling it a loophole and it's gaslit.

On the states site, there is a requirement that you are a legal resident of a county. Residency is defined as a permanent place of abode. It cannot be temporary.

However, how do you prove residency, especially if you were out of state? It would simply rely on someone saying that yes, it is the permanent place of abode at that time.

Not a loophole, but probably the same as every single state.

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-21/chapter-2/article-6/21-2-217/
Jarrin' Jay
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Yeah that is pretty weak and should not be the legal hurdle. If you were not a resident on the initial election day you should not be able to vote in the runoff election.
AlexNguyen
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Wow. Was this a covid change? We are stupid, stupid, stupid.
ABATTBQ11
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Looks like they need an address and utilities set up in their name. Probably a lot harder to do in 3 weeks than most think.
94chem
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The real craziness is having a run-off at all following a presidential election. Hope all the libertarians are happy.
YouBet
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barnyard1996 said:

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/csOMnlXFihSgJ256gUwI

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All the chatter raises the question: Is it legal?

The answer is: yes, but any potential voters would have to move quickly since the last day to be registered for the Jan. 5 contests is Dec. 7. And, the new resident also would have to stay in the state for a while or risk getting into trouble.

Under Georgia law, anyone with a legal primary residence in the state can register to vote with their county board of elections. The law does not specify a specific time limit.

A spokesman for the Georgia Secretary of State's Office, which oversees voter registrations, declined to comment on how quickly someone could establish legal residency in Georgia, but cited state law that it is a felony to vote in Georgia elections if you are not a legal resident or if you are residing in the state briefly with the intention just to vote and then move away.

"These are sensitive issues, and election officials are going to pay attention to what is happening," said Enrijeta Shino, a University of North Florida political science professor who has researched voting issues in Georgia. "People should be very careful about doing that."



Whatever. Who is going to stop them? Who is going to retroactively do anything about it?

No one. That's who.

This will be a beg forgiveness later rather than ask permission now scenario that will get swept aside as noise. If you have thousands of people swamp Georgia doing this not a damn thing happens to them when the Democrats win.
ABATTBQ11
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94chem said:

The real craziness is having a run-off at all following a presidential election. Hope all the libertarians are happy.


They will have so much fun pouting in their corner and complaining about the rise of taxes, regulation, and socialism and how EVERYONE ELSE is to blame.
MouthBQ98
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Apartment. And if they're not physically there, does it amount to fraud, as described in the felony citation above?
Science Denier
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Sounds like I need to go to Georgia, register as a temporary resident and vote.

Maybe a MAGA rally?
LOL OLD
AlexNguyen
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YouBet said:




Whatever. Who is going to stop them? Who is going to retroactively do anything about it?

No one. That's who.

This will be a beg forgiveness later rather than ask permission now scenario that will get swept aside as noise. If you have thousands of people swamp Georgia doing this not a damn thing happens to them when the Democrats win.
Exactly. It is couch change for some leftist billionaire to fund 10,000 people 'moving' to Georgia just for this election. An apartment and utility deposit and a couple months of rent. Well worth the expense to control the Senate + House + Presidency.

I swear, how could Georgia be so stupid?
vansprinkle
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We need Republicans to do the same. Would be great to get a bunch of AL, TN, and SC residents to get this started.
dBoy99
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Did they fix the water leak yet?


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
aggiehawg
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barnyard1996 said:

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-biden-election-day-2020/card/csOMnlXFihSgJ256gUwI

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All the chatter raises the question: Is it legal?

The answer is: yes, but any potential voters would have to move quickly since the last day to be registered for the Jan. 5 contests is Dec. 7. And, the new resident also would have to stay in the state for a while or risk getting into trouble.

Under Georgia law, anyone with a legal primary residence in the state can register to vote with their county board of elections. The law does not specify a specific time limit.

A spokesman for the Georgia Secretary of State's Office, which oversees voter registrations, declined to comment on how quickly someone could establish legal residency in Georgia, but cited state law that it is a felony to vote in Georgia elections if you are not a legal resident or if you are residing in the state briefly with the intention just to vote and then move away.

"These are sensitive issues, and election officials are going to pay attention to what is happening," said Enrijeta Shino, a University of North Florida political science professor who has researched voting issues in Georgia. "People should be very careful about doing that."

It is a state felony because it is fraud. Traveling from one state to another to specifically commit a state felony violates the Travel Act and is a federal felony. Vote by mail to commit voter fraud is a two-fer, voter fraud and mail fraud. Encouraging others to travel and commit a felony is solicitation of a felony.

One state felony at the least, and minimum four counts for a federal felony means Yang is looking at twenty years plus hefty fines.
rgag12
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Are there going to be people that do this. Yep. Will they get caught? Nope.

The only thing that makes this hard is that you have to take time and money to make this happen. At minimum it would probably take $300 for a month's rent. The only people that are motivated to do this aren't that large, maybe 1,000 - 10,000 people max? That shouldn't be enough to sway the outcome you'd think.

I'm WAYYYY more concerned with ballot harvesting. That will determine the outcome
depriest1022
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Why am I here? said:

Allowing temporary residence and register by 12/7 to vote in the runoffs might be the DUMBEST thing I have seen in all of this nonsense so far.

They should only allow registered voters at the time of the election on Nov 3 and even that voter roll needs to be vetted for dead people, people who have moved, people with both a married name and a maiden name, etc.

FIX THIS NOW!!!!

Even libs are warning that registration to vote with no intent of residency constitutes election fraud. I don't see prosecutors in Georgia just ignoring this.
ABATTBQ11
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MouthBQ98 said:

Apartment. And if they're not physically there, does it amount to fraud, as described in the felony citation above?


They'd have to sign a lease and break it unless they stay/pay for the whole thing, so that would cost quite a bit and/or go on their credit report. I also doubt there's tens of thousands of empty apartments available to move into tomorrow. They'd need a lease, utilities, and to get everything together to register in 3 weeks. I just see that being really, really difficult.

Also, I'd assume everyone registering between now and then who isn't already a resident (like HS kids turning 18) had a high probability of being investigated and followed up on.
Tanya 93
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94chem said:

The real craziness is having a run-off at all following a presidential election. Hope all the libertarians are happy.
Um

This is the fault of the Republicans in Loeffler's race

Own it

Plus, Georgia created this run off requirement in the 60's to make sure white people won most if not all races
Barnyard96
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YouBet said:

barnyard1996 said:

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"These are sensitive issues, and election officials are going to pay attention to what is happening," said Enrijeta Shino, a University of North Florida political science professor who has researched voting issues in Georgia. "People should be very careful about doing that."



Whatever. Who is going to stop them? Who is going to retroactively do anything about it?

No one. That's who.

This will be a beg forgiveness later rather than ask permission now scenario that will get swept aside as noise. If you have thousands of people swamp Georgia doing this not a damn thing happens to them when the Democrats win.
I am not gong to argue with you, but I am also not going to invite you onto my legal team.
YouBet
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barnyard1996 said:

YouBet said:

barnyard1996 said:

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"These are sensitive issues, and election officials are going to pay attention to what is happening," said Enrijeta Shino, a University of North Florida political science professor who has researched voting issues in Georgia. "People should be very careful about doing that."



Whatever. Who is going to stop them? Who is going to retroactively do anything about it?

No one. That's who.

This will be a beg forgiveness later rather than ask permission now scenario that will get swept aside as noise. If you have thousands of people swamp Georgia doing this not a damn thing happens to them when the Democrats win.
I am not gong to argue with you, but I am also not going to invite you onto my legal team.
Lol.

If the Democrats win, they own the rules of the game and we all know they aren't held accountable!
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Old McDonald said:

me and all my lib friends are signing a 1 month lease in atlanta to vote for the dems


This is election fraud. I think you are joking but Andrew Yang and others are doing

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/11/democrats-openly-urge-people-to-commit-voter-fraud-by-temporarily-moving-to-georgia/
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