why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

I listen to liberal radio exclusively (not sure why)


over the past few months the talking heads have been talking about republicans cheating...the past week the talking heads have been using the "trump will win election night, but when all mail in ballots are counted he will lose."

In brief - each side has their own opinion.

If we cheat the media would do it's job and call us on it. We have to follow the rules. But, yeah, I've always said we could get a border wall if we went to the border and signed up illegals to vote Republican.

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rtpAggie said:

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

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Because Republicans have not shown themselves sufficiently ruthless to throw the rules out the window. Also, a lot of Republicans are in fact part of the system and therefore the problem.

I don't see the Rs mobilizing and trying to get ineligible and dead voters counted in elections. Do you?

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no but I see them noticing the issue and combating it somehow.

you think they roll over and die? no way

"Will"...nope...they have been, and most conservatives are just taking notice.

When Biden has one more vote than Trump they will scream "stop counting, it's over, we told you he would refuse to leave office and won't concede"
When Trump has one more vote than Biden (or thousands) they will scream - "count every vote, even if late, double counted, provisional, found late, filled out wrong" "see, Trump is disenfranchising voters" "they stole our mailbox"

Liberals have consolidated and monopolized power in local governments and state agencies. These municipalities and agencies collect and tally the fraudulent votes that were given to them by the third party democrat ballot harvesters.

The Dems were cheating before. It's quite easy to do when you control the vote counting process. What's different is that fraudulent and illegal voting can take place on a massive scale now because Corona pushed states to adopt ballot harvesting and universal mail-in voting. I can also see dem states adopting super-lax voter registration laws so the ballot harvesters can cruise by high school lunch tables on Election Day, ask if anyone is 18, have them fill out registrations and ballots for Dems in exchange for some t-shirts, and be able to have them get counted weeks later.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

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because in order to get away with cheating it requires media complicity. They have it, we don't.

I'm with you in the sense that at this juncture in US history, I really don't care how we get it done. Just win baby. The country that my kids have to live in is at stake. Whatever it takes. But we just don't have the ability that the left does and that's a fact.

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I listen to liberal radio exclusively (not sure why)


over the past few months the talking heads have been talking about republicans cheating...the past week the talking heads have been using the "trump will win election night, but when all mail in ballots are counted he will lose."

In brief - each side has their own opinion.

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One side has historical precedent, the other does not.

All the media can talk about is how the election won't be decided on Nov 3rd and it will take weeks and weeks to count all the votes.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

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Government 101: In America we have a two-tier justice system.

Conservatives tend to be more conscientious and value rightful authority more highly, so they tend to follow laws instead of rationalizing breaking them at a higher frequency.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president.

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Even if we wanted to cheat, which we don't, the counties/precincts where our side "runs" the elections are not nearly as conducive to large-scale systematic cheating as are the large, urban counties run by the Dems.

Plus, they have lots of experience at it... dating back to the days of Boss Tweed/Tammany Hall.

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no but I see them noticing the issue and combating it somehow.

you think they roll over and die? no way

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I haven't seen any news around how actual voting fraud and precinct scenanigans will be combated. I have seen various law suits around mailing ballots, like the one Ken Paxton filed vs. Harris county.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

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Look at recent history in elections.

Which Party almost always manages to find additional boxes of votes after the election is over?
Which Party candidate almost always manages to come from behind to pull out a close election?
When voter fraud is discovered months or years after an election, which Party is always the one found guilty?
Which Party swung elections through vote harvesting?
Which Party wants less accountability in voting?

You either have to be not paying attention or willfully obtuse not to understand why Republicans are skeptical.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

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Good point. Let's do all we can to ensure both parties can't cheat.

Elections are managed at the state and local level, with a variety of rules and procedures.

Republicans generally push for more verification and assurances in areas that we control. Leftist continue to push for looser controls in areas that they control.

Additionally, the schenanigans we are almost exclusively occur in blue areas.

And finally, there's the moral compass. The right generally has principles while the left has "causes."

All of that aggregates to the left being more able and willing to cheat, with a pattern thereof.

Both sides 'cheated' historically, dems more than r's.

But r's tend to use 'legal' methods like gerrymandering and poll taxes etc. dems do all that plus just plain fraud much more often.

I doubt it often changed a national election in the past.

But we are in a new paradigm. This is active, planned, deliberate subversion of the country, coming to fruition a little early, after decades of campaigning, due to the stunning 'drain the swamp' trump win that derailed the plan.

This is not politics. This is insurgency.

Any american still not voting for every anti-establishment candidate, starting with trump, is simply a naive 'useful idiot' to quote lenin and clinton.

Germany and the warburgs sent stalin and lenin to russia with the scourge of socialism to destroy russia. The players have shifted a little, but the game is the same. This is only different because we were the best and the last battleground.

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why do people just assume the libs can cheat and the republicans cant?

we literally have the sitting US president. Give us a little more credit than that.

I honestly dont care how we get it done. just get it done. And I think we will.

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Pathetic troll, OP. Republicans argue for tighter election security. Dems are demanding a system that is on its face, wide open and extremely vulnerable to fraud. GTFO.

Some radical or banana republic leader once said that the vote counters determine elections not the voters, or something to that effect. Dems have the vote counters in most populated urban areas. Combine that with any voting scheme that does not require verifiable ID to vote and you have a massive advantage in fraudulently steering election results.

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Some radical or banana republic leader once said that the vote counters determine elections not the voters, or something to that effect. Dems have the vote counters in most populated urban areas. Combine that with any voting scheme that does not require verifiable ID to vote and you have a massive advantage in fraudulently steering election results.

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so according to this, we have no shot?

Did OP just ask if there is a double standard?

Trump was accused of colluding with Russia bc they spent $100K on social media ads. Then he was accused of colluding with Ukraine bc of a congratulatory phone call.

Biden was captured on video leveraging gov funds to remove a prosecutor investigating his son's petro company. Biden flew his coke head son on AF2 to secure $2B in Chinese funds for Hunter and John Kerry's son's private equity firm.

Yes, Dems can lie and cheat and GOP can't.

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I listen to liberal radio exclusively (not sure why)


over the past few months the talking heads have been talking about republicans cheating...the past week the talking heads have been using the "trump will win election night, but when all mail in ballots are counted he will lose."

In brief - each side has their own opinion.

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Forget opinion... let's look at policy:

Party A: Asking that voters show up in person, unless unable physically able to do so, produce an ID, and then vote. Wants the election to be decided on election day.

Party B: Does not want voters to have to show an ID and promotes voting by mail. Wants the decision to be spread out over weeks as votes trickle in.

Which of the above do you think would promote voter fraud?

If the libs don't want to cheat, they would allow voter ID laws.