The CANZUK Alliance?

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This article appeared in the Wall Street Journal last month and posits that an evolving alliance of four English-speaking countries with similar culture, political views and histories could serve as an "ally" of the US and Japan in countering China's aggression (and possibly Russian aggression):

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How will Great Britain survive Brexit and prosper in a world solidifying into the three empire blocs of the U.S., China and the European Union? One answer is to realize the concept of the "Canzuk Union," a vital first step on the way to a fully functioning Anglosphere.

The Anglosphere is the name given to all those countries in the world where the majority of people speak English as their first language, almost all of which have similar outlooks and shared values. The four "Canzuk" countries of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the U.K. are a prominent historical subset of this larger group, and there is a mounting case that some form of federation among themwith free trade, free movement of people, a mutual defense organization and combined military capabilitieswould create a new global superpower and ally of the U.S., the great anchor of the Anglosphere.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson's welcome decision to cut the tech giant Huawei out of Britain's 5G network and China's sabre-rattling against Canada and Australia are just the most recent developments pushing the Canzuk idea into the realm of practical politics. Others include the projected Anglo-Australian post-Brexit free trade deal...
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....The Canzuk Union would immediately enter the global stage as a superpower, able to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the U.S. in the great defining struggle of the 21st century against an increasingly revanchist China.
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Canzuk would have a combined GDP of more than $6 trillion, placing it behind only the U.S., China and the EU. Its combined population of 135 million would make it the world's ninth-largest power demographically, with much higher levels of education and GDP per capita than most of the other eight. And with a combined defense expenditure of over $100 billion, it would also be able to punch above its weight.

All four countries have long been members of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance with the U.S., and Canada's membership in the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) would be extended to the Canzuk Union as a whole, with Britain providing a nuclear deterrent and space program and its seat on the U.N. Security Council.
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...There is no reason why the American taxpayer should pick up the bill of being the world's policeman forever, and an intimate alliance with Canzuk would provide welcome relief. The cost of curbing and containing China's global ambitions would become the historic role of not one but two superpowers, as it is clear that the EU has no interest in trying to stop Chinese hegemony in Asia. A strong, prosperous Canzuk Union would make the Anglosphere a force-multiplier in a more uncertain world.
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Today, with the further support of a "galaxy" of supportive countries such as Israel, India, South Africa, Poland, Japan and so on, the Anglosphere would be able to face down Russian, Chinese, Iranian, North Korean and other potential threats as we progress through this dangerous century. Churchill would have approved. Indeed, it is his phrase, "the English-speaking peoples," that gives the Anglosphere its powerful historical resonance.

The old and enduring loyalty, friendship and association among the various English-speaking communities and states has evolved over time, to meet changing circumstances and to seize opportunities. The communities should look to strengthen institutional ties, and create new ones, for the benefit of each of them, and of the world.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/its-time-to-revive-the-anglosphere-11596859260
There are a lot of things to like about this, but very briefly, my points of difference are as follows:
1.) The US was the original rebel from "the Anglosphere" with its own radical ideas about government, individual rights and freedoms not being subject to the sovereign, but indeed, holding primacy over the rights of the sovereign;
2.) the evolution of the US legal system flows from those differences and is why such things as the Second Amendment and stand your ground are so radically different from the "no right to armed self-defence" doctrine of the Anglosphere;
3.) we should reserve the right for unilateral action with partners like Israel and Poland and allying with the Anglosphere might tie our hands;
4.) The Brits/Aussies/Kiwis have never truly appreciated iced tea in all its glory.
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GenericAggie
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Racist name. Divisive. Driven by religion similarities.

That's what they will say.....
Comanche_Ag
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Too bad Australia has gone woke...

TheCougarHunter
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Anglos
CW Griswold
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We're getting the band back together

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TheCougarHunter
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CW Griswold said:

We're getting the band back together




Need to get India in on this as well. Many of them speak English.
BrotherChad
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CW Griswold said:

We're getting the band back together


Can the King be Jesus this time? Not a huge fan of the pedo royal family.
TheCougarHunter
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Make England relevant again
CW Griswold
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Victoria and Disraeli. When a reclusive shut in and an old Jewish guy ran the world.

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SirLurksALot
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That article is written from a very US centric view point. I'm not sure that the people of Australia, New Zealand, or Canada would be all that willing to be re-subjugated in to what would be the de facto rebirth of the British Empire. The UK would make up nearly half the population, GDP, and military expenditures of the union. The UK would dominate the union's politics.

New Zealand and Australia have also been a lot more hesitant than the UK or Canada to involve themselves heavily in foreign engagements. I don't believe their people would react positively to the idea of being the world's police.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

Already a pretty useful military alliance there.
pagerman @ work
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In support of the UK, we should offer them membership in NAFTA (or whatever the hell its called now) to strengthen them economically and Even further solidify the connection to the US.

And Then we jump into this alliance the article mentions.
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Grapes
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As a Canadian, I don't like this. I don't want anyone else participating in our terms of cooperation with the US.
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There was a book written about this about 15 or 20 years ago. I believe it was actually called "The Anglosphere". I'll have to look it up and report back.
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Australia and NZ need to do something before they become vassal states to China.
Rachel 98
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Grapes said:

As a Canadian, I don't like this. I don't want anyone else participating in our terms of cooperation with the US.


Can you expand on this? I'm curious about your Canadian perspective.
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Grapes said:

As a Canadian, I don't like this. I don't want anyone else participating in our terms of cooperation with the US.
Bruh. We own y'all, just accept it.
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Grapes said:

As a Canadian, I don't like this. I don't want anyone else participating in our terms of cooperation with the US.
Oh, come on. It could mean the CFL would gain fans after we abandon all our US football fixation.
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titan
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Interesting post. If we would update our foreign policy and really work at it, we could still separate quasi-Orthodox gangster state Russia from communist atheist China and put in on the Canzuk side of any square-off.
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