Kurt Vonnegut was a satirist not a how-to writer

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aggiehawg
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I have previously referred to Kurt Vonnegut's famous 1961 short story "Harrison Bergeron," which is a mordant satire of the tyrannical world of perfect equality. If you've never read it, here's the first paragraph:
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THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren't only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.
In order to make everyone equal, handsome men and beautiful women had to wear masks; very intelligent people had to wear a headset that blared loud noise in their ears every 20 seconds or so to prevent them from using their higher intelligence, talented ballerinas had to dance with weights on their anklesyou get the picture. It makes clear as well as a thousand pages of Hayek that achieving perfect equality requires tyranny.
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And some people are quite ready to adopt tyranny in the name of "ending racism." Like Ibram X. Kendi, heralded as a leading scholar of "anti-racism who has just joined Boston University to head up its new "Center for Anti-Racist Research." His books, including How To Be an Antiracist and Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America, are now on the required reading lists at many colleges and corporate "diversity training" workshops.


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It's as though Kendi took "Harrison Bergeron" as a how-to manual.

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey this week gave Kendi $10 million for his Boston University project. I look forward to all the leftist critics of "corporate influence" on campus protesting this corporate largess.
Just lovely, not. <sigh>

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Thunder18
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Maroon Dawn
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Just two short weeks and we can get back to normal!

Just a short dictatorship of the proletariat and then the communist utopia!
Cassius
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Blood is going to flow again in this country. Sorry to say that, but it's going to happen. The libs will make it happen.
Mega Lops
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It is downright scary and funny at the same time how life imitates art.

Another example is alternative history writer Harry Turtledove's Great War series: Blacks adopt Marxism and violently revolt against whites.

Literally modern day BLM. And these books were written over 20 years ago.
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Kurt Vonnegut was a satirist not a how-to writer
EXACTLY. In the same way that George Orwell was not writing an intended Constitution with his `1984' or `Animal Farm'.

But while on the subject of satirical or Jonathan Swift level biting satire or irony, here's one cooked up for this.

To get rid racism as a topic and similar divisive stoked up ills of the past, stop teaching all history. Especially the media and public chatter distorting it.

Leave that to a specialized group like monks in the Middle Ages when most everyone else was running around fighting, sexing, procreating, building, recreating, marrying, and commerce.

Each generation would no longer have embellished grievances because they deal only with their present. Thats all they know unless they join the group (not especially well paid were the monks) that make it a life-calling.

They could focus on an injustice in their work place at present, not second-guess those of 200 years ago or a 1,000 years ago.

With attention restored to the problems of the present and not ancestors that can't be undone anyway, more would get done.

But historical and political literacy would be a requirement for high office. So you don't have the problem of those in charge not learning from it.




aggiehawg
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When I was in college I read a lot of Vonnegut, Carlos Casteneda, Frank Herbert and of course Ayn Rand. But I could differentiate between what was sci-fi, what was mystical/philosophical, what was satire and what was a cautionary tale.

Our educational system has soo failed our youth.
aggiehawg
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Bump for the evening crowd.
agent-maroon
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The only part of that crap I was good with was the acronym DOA. The rest should be ridiculed and laughed at ad infinitum.
J.P. 03
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If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
57 STATES!
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Great author.
aggiehawg
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J.P. 03 said:

If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
Duly noted. I'll try to get a message though. (I'm Dagny BTW.)
titan
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aggiehawg said:

J.P. 03 said:

If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
Duly noted. I'll try to get a message though. (I'm Dagny BTW.)
Count me in. As someone nicked named one time, can be a walking Wikipedia.
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aggiehawg
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titan said:

aggiehawg said:

J.P. 03 said:

If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
Duly noted. I'll try to get a message though. (I'm Dagny BTW.)
Count me in. As someone nicked named one time, can be a walking Wikipedia.
The "Dagny" thing is a true story. I had a small (like 15 students) advanced American History class. On the first day I arrived early to find one other student already there. A guy, red hair, red beard. We got to talking and out of the blue he said, "You sound like Dagny Taggart." I was flattered and told him so.

And no, there was no hook-up after. Maybe he meant that as an insult?
titan
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aggiehawg said:

titan said:

aggiehawg said:

J.P. 03 said:

If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
Duly noted. I'll try to get a message though. (I'm Dagny BTW.)
Count me in. As someone nicked named one time, can be a walking Wikipedia.
The "Dagny" thing is a true story. I had a small (like 15 students) advanced American History class. On the first day I arrived early to find one other student already there. A guy, red hair, red beard. We got to talking and out of the blue he said, "You sound like Dagny Taggart." I was flattered and told him so.

And no, there was no hook-up after. Maybe he meant that as an insult?
Haha -that is a neat story, and can definitely see it.
aggiehawg
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titan said:

aggiehawg said:

titan said:

aggiehawg said:

J.P. 03 said:

If life really does imitate art, all I know is this: if any of y'all get invited to Galt's Gulch and don't send someone to come get me, too, there's gonna be hell to pay.
Duly noted. I'll try to get a message though. (I'm Dagny BTW.)
Count me in. As someone nicked named one time, can be a walking Wikipedia.
The "Dagny" thing is a true story. I had a small (like 15 students) advanced American History class. On the first day I arrived early to find one other student already there. A guy, red hair, red beard. We got to talking and out of the blue he said, "You sound like Dagny Taggart." I was flattered and told him so.

And no, there was no hook-up after. Maybe he meant that as an insult?
Haha -that is a neat story, and can definitely see it.
It was kind of surreal at the time. I had read Atlas Shrugged for the second time over the summer before that fall semester. Just seemed so odd. And I can't remember much more about the class itself, except when I watch Jeopardy and some random synapse fires.
mandevilleag
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57 STATES! said:

Great author.
Just don't hire him to write a book report, even if it's about his own novels.
Ag4coal
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Kendi is a crackpot. Listened to him enough (unfortunately) to see how skewed his view really is.
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