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Guadaloop474
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....While it’s not surprising that non-Christians or non-religious people might make such assessments, there’s evidence that more and more Christians are rejecting the ancient belief that Satan is a real, living being.

In his 1991 book, What Americans Believe (Regal Books; page 26), Evangelical pollster George Barna reported that a survey of 1005 Americans found that 60% of respondents, regardless of religious affiliation, believed that Satan was "only a symbol of evil," while 35% believed he is "a living being." Just over half of the respondents who described themselves as "born again Christians" believed Satan is a living being, while only 26% of Catholics agreed, with almost 7 out of10 Catholics saying Satan is only a symbol of evil.

In December 1993, Time magazine featured a story and an opinion poll on angels. The poll revealed that 69% of respondents believed in the existence of angels, but only 49% believed in the existence of fallen "angels or devils." Two years later, in 1995, another Barna survey revealed that about 58% of American adults believed that Satan is "not a living being but is a symbol of evil."

And, finally, an October 2002 study by the Barna Group ("Americans Draw Theological Beliefs From Diverse Points of View" found that 59% of Americans reject the existence of Satan, instead believing he is merely a symbol of evil. The study stated: "Catholics are much more likely than Protestants to hold this view – 75% compared to 55% – although a majority of both groups concur that Satan is symbolic." The study also noted that the rejection of Satan’s existence apparently conflicted with the fact that 54% of respondents believed that "a human being can be under the control or the influence of spiritual forces such as demons." The religious group with the highest percentage (59%) of members who believe that Satan is a living entity was Mormon. The group with the lowest percentage, at 17%, was Catholic.

More at http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2005/colson_satan_aug2005.asp

Liam
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Once Statan gets people to believe he's not real, it gets a lot easier for people to believe there's no evil in the world as well. Satan's a very smart guy.
SWOSU
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Every serious subject needs a little humor ...



Satan is very real. He lives at 740 Evergreen Terrace (right next door to Homer & Marge).
Guadaloop474
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Not sure how all of these so-called Christians can say they don't believe in the reality of the devil after reading Ephesians 6....


Ephesians 6:10: Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.
11: Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12: For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
13: Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14: Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
15: and having shod your feet with the equipment of the gospel of peace;
16: besides all these, taking the shield of faith, with which you can quench all the flaming darts of the evil one.
17: And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
BMX Bandit
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i have a hard time believing there is a devil with a pitchfork and horns running around.
BMX Bandit
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and i didn't realize belief in the devil was a requirement of being Christian. Guess the "so called Christians" had better call you next time they have a question about the Rules.
Guadaloop474
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BMX - How can you read Ephesians 6 and not believe in evil spirits? And how can you read about Jesus actually conversing with the devil in the desert, being tempted by him 3 times, and not believe he is real? This isn't my personal revelation, contrary to your snide remark, but it is all there in the Bible, that, evidently, few Christians read, or believe in.
ozarker
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Harry Potter is evil.
SiValleyAg68
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I am not surprised that Catholics are the most disbelievers because there are so many priests drowning in liberalism. I once heard a priest tell a confirmation class that there was no real Adam and Eve. When they look at challenging things they cave in to opinion and call them myths, then anything can be seen as a myth.

However, liberalism aside, one has to question whether the context of the poll questions was not confusing the issue. Often “Satan” or “the devil” is used as an overall entity of evil. Satan is synonymous with Lucifer, the head evil spirit. But “the devil” can mean Satan in particular or whatever evil spirit(s) involved in a situation.

If the question was posed in the latter context, the polled person might think the question was, “Do you believe the devil is an individual being?”, which is a different question.

I think that most people are confused or ignorant about evil spirits and see them as quasi-beings, not really individualized. And since their individuality is not really important, it’s hard to see them as beings. They become sort of an integral drag toward evil.
Guadaloop474
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In the Bible, the demons have names, like Asmodeus, Legion, and Beelzebul. Their boss is named Lucifer...That pretty much says that they are real.
Ishmael-Ag
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"The devil made me do it"-Geraldine

Just another way of humans not taking responsibility (what an evil word) for their own evil choices. The potential lives in us all and we all at one time or another make those kinds of choices. Asking for forgiveness is God's way of allowing us to atone. And I love the way Catholics say it BTW, Mea Culpa (my fault).
SWOSU
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Catholics say it BTW, Mea Culpa (my fault)
So now Catholics have a monopoly on Latin?
Windy City Ag
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LOL! I am pretty sure the Romans coined that phrase.
Guadaloop474
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Domini non sum dignus, ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tanctum dic verbo, et sanabitur anima mea....
Windy City Ag
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Corpus Domini nostri Jesu Christi custodiat animam tuam in vitam aeternam. Amen
Guadaloop474
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Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum, benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus. Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen.
3xranger
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Of course the devil exists. Dogmatic religion is the Devil's greatest achievement. In the guise of religion he has pulled off his most audacious coup. He has fragarantly masqueraded as God, He has had us bow down and worship him. He has had us commit every type of evil in the name of holiness. He has passed off his bigotry as God's opinion. He has had us segragate humanity into the 'ins' and the 'outs', believers and non-believers, the saved and the damned. He has conviced us that God likes us but not them. And convinced them that God likes them but not us. And then, in a stroke of dark brilliance, he warns his faithful flock of sheep: 'Be sure you do not pay heed to anyone but me, for the Devil is a a wily wolf and he will surely trick you'.

Those fanatics who follow dogma to the letter become inflated with feelings of speicalness, they willingly enlist into the Devil's elite group of martyrs and murderers, ready to die and kill for concepts and catchphrases. All for a promised pay cleverly put off until the afterlife.
Liam
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He has fragarantly.........


So you're Asian right....?
3xranger
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Liam,

I'm just one of "them".
Guadaloop474
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they willingly enlist into the Devil's elite group of martyrs and murderers


And these murderers are ???
3xranger
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.......blind to the truth.....or brainwashed....whichever you prefer.

[This message has been edited by 3xranger (edited 8/21/2005 9:19p).]
3xranger
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Texag73

They are those who fill the history books with nefareous acts done in the name of this or in the name of that.....You can look as far as history takes you and find those people. You find the blind who followed the powerful. You find Kings and Queens and Generals and Caesars who said whatever they needed to say to get thier peoples to believe...and many followed like sheep. I don't think I need to get specific as the examples are too numerous to mention. But I can say those acts happened then, and they continue to happen now.
Ishmael-Ag
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La Culpa es mia-Ok I like how the Latin Americans say it.
Guadaloop474
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3X - I would invite you to do a comparison between those killed by people claiming to be Christian, and those killed by atheists, like the Nazis and the Communists. Mao, Hitler and Stalin accounted for at least 100 million dead in the last century. I'll take Christians anyday.
BMX Bandit
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didn't Hitler claim to be Christian?

(even if he did, the numbers killed by Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot are still 100X higher)
Windy City Ag
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Are we really arguing who has committed mass murder on a less grand scale?
The Lone Stranger
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Corpus Domini nostri Jesu Christi custodiat animam tuam in vitam aeternam. Amen


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jkag89
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didn't Hitler claim to be Christian?

No. Hitler was hoping to set up a Neo-Norse type state religion.
BMX Bandit
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thanks.
Windy City Ag
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Strangely, the Swastika was a sacred symbol to Hindus at the time of the Nazi party adopting it as their symbol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
3xranger
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Texasag73,

Funny how you have to affirm that Christian belief (or the interpretation thereof) is the lesser of evils when compared to Naziism or Communism.

What I refer to is when you have text written by man with interpretable ideas, you risk people using this text for earthly gains. Did the Roman Church create strict dogma because it was the will of God? or was it to control freethinking "heretics"?
NonReg85
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It was to give us guidance because we are all subject to the evils of rationalizing that which our pride makes us believe is "rational or logical."
Notafraid
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Did you know that 46% of all statistics are simply made up?
Guadaloop474
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Funny how you have to affirm that Christian belief (or the interpretation thereof) is the lesser of evils when compared to Naziism or Communism


3x - Is this a serious question, or are you pulling my leg?????????
The Lone Stranger
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Statistics indicate that 50% of most statistics are inaccurrate, and the other half is just plain wrong.
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