Don't know who needs to read this (other than myself), but there is so much comfort in knowing that Jesus Christ is the rock of ages. Any life built in complete trust in HIM and his work upon the cross will stand strong and endure, even when this life seems overwhelming.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock

Matthew 7:23-24 KJV

I needed it this morning! Thank you for sharing!

Can't throw that OP Title out without the classic hymn to accompany it.

Love that hymn.

10andBOUNCE said:

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Can't throw that OP Title out without the classic hymn to accompany it.

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Man I need to pray about what makes so angry when I hear modern Christian Rock Band type music.

I think I hear the bad music first and it just seems so disingenuous or disrespectful to me.

I had to Google why this genre of music bothered me so much. Apparently it's intentional and simplified down to the lowest common denominator.

This acoustic arrangement of Rock of Ages relies on several core elements that give it that very basic, almost elementary school simplicity:

Extremely Narrow Melodic Range:

The entire vocal melody stays within a tight handful of adjacent notes (mostly stepwise motion up and down a major scale). There are virtually no large leaps, syncopations, or unexpected intervalsvery similar to traditional folk tunes or beginner recorder exercises like "Hot Cross Buns" or "Ode to Joy."
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing: The melody is divided into short, symmetrical, call-and-response phrases that start, peak, and resolve in the exact same rhythmic cadence verse after verse.

Basic Diatonic Harmony:

Underneath, the acoustic accompaniment sticks strictly to foundational primary chords (the standard I, IV, and V chords in a major key) with steady, straightforward strumming. There are no chromatic passing chords, key changes, or harmonic tension to add complexity.

Historic Purpose:

The hymn tune (traditionally known as "Toplady," written by Thomas Hastings in 1830) was deliberately designed so an entire congregation of everyday people, regardless of musical training, could learn it instantly and sing it by heart without accompaniment.

why is an acoustic guitar "modern" and offensive to you?

CrackerJackAg said:

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I had to Google why this genre of music bothered me so much. Apparently it's intentional and simplified down to the lowest common denominator.

This acoustic arrangement of Rock of Ages relies on several core elements that give it that very basic, almost elementary school simplicity:

Extremely Narrow Melodic Range:

The entire vocal melody stays within a tight handful of adjacent notes (mostly stepwise motion up and down a major scale). There are virtually no large leaps, syncopations, or unexpected intervalsvery similar to traditional folk tunes or beginner recorder exercises like "Hot Cross Buns" or "Ode to Joy."
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing: The melody is divided into short, symmetrical, call-and-response phrases that start, peak, and resolve in the exact same rhythmic cadence verse after verse.

Basic Diatonic Harmony:

Underneath, the acoustic accompaniment sticks strictly to foundational primary chords (the standard I, IV, and V chords in a major key) with steady, straightforward strumming. There are no chromatic passing chords, key changes, or harmonic tension to add complexity.

Historic Purpose:

The hymn tune (traditionally known as "Toplady," written by Thomas Hastings in 1830) was deliberately designed so an entire congregation of everyday people, regardless of musical training, could learn it instantly and sing it by heart without accompaniment.

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What you are describing are most hymns that are sung, albeit obviously in a protestant church. They are meant to be "easier" to catch on to.

10andBOUNCE said:

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why is an acoustic guitar "modern" and offensive to you?

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I suppose you did not read my full response or second post

10andBOUNCE said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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I had to Google why this genre of music bothered me so much. Apparently it's intentional and simplified down to the lowest common denominator.

This acoustic arrangement of Rock of Ages relies on several core elements that give it that very basic, almost elementary school simplicity:

Extremely Narrow Melodic Range:

The entire vocal melody stays within a tight handful of adjacent notes (mostly stepwise motion up and down a major scale). There are virtually no large leaps, syncopations, or unexpected intervalsvery similar to traditional folk tunes or beginner recorder exercises like "Hot Cross Buns" or "Ode to Joy."
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing: The melody is divided into short, symmetrical, call-and-response phrases that start, peak, and resolve in the exact same rhythmic cadence verse after verse.

Basic Diatonic Harmony:

Underneath, the acoustic accompaniment sticks strictly to foundational primary chords (the standard I, IV, and V chords in a major key) with steady, straightforward strumming. There are no chromatic passing chords, key changes, or harmonic tension to add complexity.

Historic Purpose:

The hymn tune (traditionally known as "Toplady," written by Thomas Hastings in 1830) was deliberately designed so an entire congregation of everyday people, regardless of musical training, could learn it instantly and sing it by heart without accompaniment.

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What you are describing are most hymns that are sung, albeit obviously in a protestant church. They are meant to be "easier" to catch on to.

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Yeah, I understand the purpose of it and I think when it's in basic congregational hymn form I think there's a lot to be said for that

When that same concept is applied to rock music. It just sounds so bad.

I just don't think it works.

That said, I know there are a lot of people that genuinely enjoy it and that's obviously a good thing.

CrackerJackAg said:

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10andBOUNCE said:

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why is an acoustic guitar "modern" and offensive to you?

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I suppose you did not read my full response or second post

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These are the words you described in your longer response. I don't understand why this makes it modern and disagreeable to you.

intentional
simplified down
basic
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing
short, symmetrical
exact same rhythmic cadence
foundational primary chords
steady, straightforward strumming

CrackerJackAg said:

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10andBOUNCE said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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I had to Google why this genre of music bothered me so much. Apparently it's intentional and simplified down to the lowest common denominator.

This acoustic arrangement of Rock of Ages relies on several core elements that give it that very basic, almost elementary school simplicity:

Extremely Narrow Melodic Range:

The entire vocal melody stays within a tight handful of adjacent notes (mostly stepwise motion up and down a major scale). There are virtually no large leaps, syncopations, or unexpected intervalsvery similar to traditional folk tunes or beginner recorder exercises like "Hot Cross Buns" or "Ode to Joy."
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing: The melody is divided into short, symmetrical, call-and-response phrases that start, peak, and resolve in the exact same rhythmic cadence verse after verse.

Basic Diatonic Harmony:

Underneath, the acoustic accompaniment sticks strictly to foundational primary chords (the standard I, IV, and V chords in a major key) with steady, straightforward strumming. There are no chromatic passing chords, key changes, or harmonic tension to add complexity.

Historic Purpose:

The hymn tune (traditionally known as "Toplady," written by Thomas Hastings in 1830) was deliberately designed so an entire congregation of everyday people, regardless of musical training, could learn it instantly and sing it by heart without accompaniment.

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What you are describing are most hymns that are sung, albeit obviously in a protestant church. They are meant to be "easier" to catch on to.

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When that same concept is applied to rock music. It just sounds so bad.

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Are you saying you would categorize the song I linked as "rock music?" How old are you?

10andBOUNCE said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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10andBOUNCE said:

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why is an acoustic guitar "modern" and offensive to you?

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I suppose you did not read my full response or second post

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These are the words you described in your longer response. I don't understand why this makes it modern and disagreeable to you.

intentional
simplified down
basic
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing
short, symmetrical
exact same rhythmic cadence
foundational primary chords
steady, straightforward strumming

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Like I said, it just sounds really bad in rock form.

I mean, I'm not wrong. It is a statement of opinion.

10andBOUNCE said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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10andBOUNCE said:

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CrackerJackAg said:

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I had to Google why this genre of music bothered me so much. Apparently it's intentional and simplified down to the lowest common denominator.

This acoustic arrangement of Rock of Ages relies on several core elements that give it that very basic, almost elementary school simplicity:

Extremely Narrow Melodic Range:

The entire vocal melody stays within a tight handful of adjacent notes (mostly stepwise motion up and down a major scale). There are virtually no large leaps, syncopations, or unexpected intervalsvery similar to traditional folk tunes or beginner recorder exercises like "Hot Cross Buns" or "Ode to Joy."
Predictable, Repetitive Phrasing: The melody is divided into short, symmetrical, call-and-response phrases that start, peak, and resolve in the exact same rhythmic cadence verse after verse.

Basic Diatonic Harmony:

Underneath, the acoustic accompaniment sticks strictly to foundational primary chords (the standard I, IV, and V chords in a major key) with steady, straightforward strumming. There are no chromatic passing chords, key changes, or harmonic tension to add complexity.

Historic Purpose:

The hymn tune (traditionally known as "Toplady," written by Thomas Hastings in 1830) was deliberately designed so an entire congregation of everyday people, regardless of musical training, could learn it instantly and sing it by heart without accompaniment.

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What you are describing are most hymns that are sung, albeit obviously in a protestant church. They are meant to be "easier" to catch on to.

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When that same concept is applied to rock music. It just sounds so bad.

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Are you saying you would categorize the song I linked as "rock music?" How old are you?

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40's.

I honestly don't know what you call that music.

I've typically heard it referred to as Christian Rock or Christian Alternative Rock.

It's not good rock. I'm just using the term that the industry applies to it. I didn't define the genre personally or anything if that's what you're implying.

You do seem rather combative and I'm not sure why. This doesn't feel like a topic worth fighting for.

Apparently, by definition, it falls under a Christian rock alternative known as Acoustic Rock Worship / Contemporary Hymn with a sprinkling of folk/indie acoustic.

I mean, that's pretty obvious to everyone who never listens to the music genre.

That's probably the second song of that genre. I've heard in the last 20 years so you'll have to forgive me for misunderstanding the nuances of the genre.

Nah, just a funny take to lump it into a "rock music" category. But the point is taken that it may not be someone's favorite to hear an older hymn in a more modern sense like that is. I can respect that. Being that we are both in our 40's our baseline for rock music should be all that junk from the 90s that still plays in my head way too much.

One day you'll have to share what an Eastern Orthodox guy in his 40's listens to while he smokes his stogies.

10andBOUNCE said:

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Nah, just a funny take to lump it into a "rock music" category. But the point is taken that it may not be someone's favorite to hear an older hymn in a more modern sense like that is. I can respect that. Being that we are both in our 40's our baseline for rock music should be all that junk from the 90s that still plays in my head way too much.

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The 90s are gold sir

CrackerJackAg said:

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10andBOUNCE said:

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Nah, just a funny take to lump it into a "rock music" category. But the point is taken that it may not be someone's favorite to hear an older hymn in a more modern sense like that is. I can respect that. Being that we are both in our 40's our baseline for rock music should be all that junk from the 90s that still plays in my head way too much.

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The 90s are gold sir

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80s. Nothing beats the 80s.

The 60s and 70s blow them all away. Beatles, Eagles, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Beach boys, Lynerd Skynerd, Elvis, Elton John, Doobie Brothers, Chicago, Sinatra, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, Aretha Franklin, Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Michael Jackson, and too many more to name.

CrackerJackAg said:

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Apparently, by definition, it falls under a Christian rock alternative known as Acoustic Rock Worship / Contemporary Hymn with a sprinkling of folk/indie acoustic.

I mean, that's pretty obvious to everyone who never listens to the music genre.

That's probably the second song of that genre. I've heard in the last 20 years so you'll have to forgive me for misunderstanding the nuances of the genre.

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Y'all would hate our praise band at our church.

dermdoc said:

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The 60s and 70s blow them all away. Beatles, Eagles, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Beach boys, Lynerd Skynerd, Elvis, Elton John, Doobie Brothers, Chicago, Sinatra, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, Aretha Franklin, Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Michael Jackson, and too many more to name.

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Agree, that era is the best, and if I had to listen to secular music, that would be it.

10andBOUNCE said:

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dermdoc said:

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The 60s and 70s blow them all away. Beatles, Eagles, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Beach boys, Lynerd Skynerd, Elvis, Elton John, Doobie Brothers, Chicago, Sinatra, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, Aretha Franklin, Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Michael Jackson, and too many more to name.

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Agree, that era is the best, and if I had to listen to secular music, that would be it.

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You don't listen to secular music? I think all those artists are inspired by God even if they don't know it. But whatever works for you.

No, I do occasionally. Just meant to say if I could only listen to one genre that would probably be it.

10andBOUNCE said:

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No, I do occasionally. Just meant to say if I could only listen to one genre that would probably be it.

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Got it my friend.