The Rejection of Atheism is Turning Boys Into Men

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KentK93
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This is well worth a watch. It will give you a more global view of a shift back to Jesus Christ.


Rocag
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Care to provide a summary?

It's odd to me that Christians would want to align themselves with the "manosphere". At least for me, that term is associated with things like Andrew Tate, incels, Gamergate, the so called pick up artist influencers, misogyny in general, and a bunch of other broadly negative things. The question I would have is do these manosphere influencers push a healthy version of masculinity? Because from what I've seen, I'd say no.
Silent For Too Long
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Maybe actually take the time to learn more about them instead of painting a lot of different people with a wide variety or perspectives with the same broad brush.

Wes Huff is no misogynist

Shawn Ryan. Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, PBD, Theo Von, are all generally considered part of the Manosphere, and none of them are remotely misogynists.

Unless you consider anything remotely echoing traditional biblical gender roles to be misogynistic, in which case, most Christians aren't going to have a problem with that, even if you do.


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Rocag said:

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It's odd to me that Christians would want to align themselves with the "manosphere". At least for me, that term is associated with things like Andrew Tate, incels, Gamergate, the so called pick up artist influencers, misogyny in general, and a bunch of other broadly negative things. The question I would have is do these manosphere influencers push a healthy version of masculinity? Because from what I've seen, I'd say no.

This is best I can do because I was doing other things while listening to it. Definitely not Andrew Tate orientated



Summary of the Video: "The Rejection Of Atheism Is Turning Boys Into Men | Wes Huff and Dan Paterson"
In this episode of John Anderson's podcast (published February 6, 2026), former Australian Deputy Prime Minister John Anderson interviews Canadian apologist Wes Huff and Australian Christian speaker Dan Paterson about a perceived cultural shift among younger generations, particularly young men, away from atheism and secularism toward Christianity and traditional values. The discussion explores disillusionment with materialistic worldviews, the search for meaning, and the role of online platforms in shaping beliefs.
Key Discussion Points:
Wes Huff's Joe Rogan Appearance: Huff recounts his viral interview on The Joe Rogan Experience (over 7 million views), attributing its success to public demand for balanced, orthodox Christian perspectives on history, science, and philosophy. He notes Rogan's eclectic audience and how podcasts like his have eclipsed legacy media (e.g., CNN, ABC) as primary sources for education, entertainment, and news.
Cultural Vibe Shift: Both guests highlight a post-pandemic rejection of "hard materialism" among 18-30-year-olds, driven by mental health crises, eroded trust in authorities, and a hunger for transcendence, tradition, and moral grounding. Paterson cites data from Pew Research and Australian studies showing increased interest in spirituality, with young people reacting against their atheist parents by exploring the Bible and church. Huff describes this as the "rotten fruit" of new atheism (post-9/11 figures like Richard Dawkins) failing to provide purpose, leading to a "Goldilocks zone" where people question experts and seek alternatives.
Online Influences and Young Men: The conversation emphasizes how figures like Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and even controversial ones like Andrew Tate influence young men seeking role models. Paterson notes events he co-hosted with Huff in Australia sold out to mostly under-30 males, drawn by questions like "Is Christianity true? Is God good? Does it work?" They discuss the need for parents to guide children toward a "healthy online diet" amid toxic influences, promoting authenticity over ideology.
Broader Societal Implications: Topics include the decline of mainstream media's relevance due to bias and lack of diversity; the rise of "new theists" (e.g., Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Russell Brand, Tom Holland); and comparisons to other worldviews like Islam. They critique secularism's inability to sustain justice or equality without Judeo-Christian foundations, referencing events like COVID-19 and 9/11 as catalysts for worldview reevaluation.
Christlike Responses and Media Trends: On responding to injustice (e.g., a hypothetical assassination scenario, possibly a transcription error for a real event), they advocate sacrifice over vengeance, drawing from Christ's example. They discuss Hollywood's "woke" missteps (e.g., Disney's course correction) and express concern over Netflix's upcoming Narnia adaptation potentially straying from C.S. Lewis's authentic spiritual themes for modern ideologies, contrasting it with successful faithful adaptations like recent Frankenstein or Lord of the Rings films.
Final Thoughts: Huff promotes his "Can I Trust the Bible?" series on Apologetics Canada, while Paterson encourages exploring Jesus through the Gospels for intellectual credibility and existential fulfillment, directing viewers to Questioning Christianity resources.
The video (1 hour, 10 minutes) has garnered 1,906 views, 139 likes, and 25 comments, with viewers praising the insightful dialogue on Christianity's resurgence while some critique atheism or express skepticism. Overall, it's an optimistic take on cultural renewal, urging authenticity and faith amid secular decline.
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But it's telling that you're not objecting to my classifying those people and general elements as being a part of the manosphere, merely objecting that the term is broad enough to include people that might not share those objectionable traits. Perhaps the term is too broad to be useful seeing as how you seem to be linking the manosphere with traditional biblical beliefs which is not a connection I would make.

Based off Kent's provided summary, there is plenty there I would criticize but I think the most fundamental one is questioning whether Gen Z has really made the rightward swing that this assumes. Statistically speaking, I'm not convinced that is the case as it relates to either conservative politics or to Christianity. As a percentage of the population, the religiously unaffiliated continues to grow.
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It's telling, is it? Do tell. What does it tell you, Rocag?

I'm cognizant how people use terms. The vast majority of what is often described as "The Manosphere" openly condemns Andrew Tate.

Your inability to use nuance is you a problem.
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Based off Kent's provided summary, there is plenty there I would criticize but I think the most fundamental one is questioning whether Gen Z has really made the rightward swing that this assumes. Statistically speaking, I'm not convinced that is the case as it relates to either conservative politics or to Christianity. As a percentage of the population, the religiously unaffiliated continues to grow.


General Z men have absolutely made a rightward and religious swing.

Google it.
Cynic
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Calling it a "manosphere" is intolerant and offensive.
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Not all Christians gravitate to that version of masculinity. Being Christlike, Jesus of Nazareth, is quite different. Spiritual formation is key.
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Rocag said:

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It's odd to me that Christians would want to align themselves with the "manosphere". At least for me, that term is associated with things like Andrew Tate, incels, Gamergate, the so called pick up artist influencers, misogyny in general, and a bunch of other broadly negative things. The question I would have is do these manosphere influencers push a healthy version of masculinity? Because from what I've seen, I'd say no.

You're equating Wes Huff with those things you listed? Good lord.
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AozorAg said:

Rocag said:

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It's odd to me that Christians would want to align themselves with the "manosphere". At least for me, that term is associated with things like Andrew Tate, incels, Gamergate, the so called pick up artist influencers, misogyny in general, and a bunch of other broadly negative things. The question I would have is do these manosphere influencers push a healthy version of masculinity? Because from what I've seen, I'd say no.

You're equating Wes Huff with those things you listed? Good lord, that is a shocking level of ignorance.


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Rocag said:

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It's odd to me that Christians would want to align themselves with the "manosphere". At least for me, that term is associated with things like Andrew Tate, incels, Gamergate, the so called pick up artist influencers, misogyny in general, and a bunch of other broadly negative things. The question I would have is do these manosphere influencers push a healthy version of masculinity? Because from what I've seen, I'd say no.


My guess it that they have a common enemy in the form of left-wing feminism, although for different reasons.
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