Everything we are seeing happen right now has been prophesied in Scripture

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This could be an extremely long post. I could post hundreds of biblical passages that foretell what is happening in our nation and actually around the world at this time. I will not do that. I am only going to use one passage from Matt 24.

Matt 24:3-14

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

4 And Jesus answered and said to them:
1.) "Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

2,) 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

3.) 7 For nation -- (ethos- ethnic group, tribe or race based culture) will rise against nation -- (ethos- ethnic group, tribe or race based culture) , and kingdom -- (basileia = realm or government, king or prince -- could be both spiritual or secluar, root word is baselious a sovereign nation) , against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

What is interesting to note here is the word Nation is actually 'ethnos', this is race or culture. Race will rise up against race, tribe verse tribe. Well we sure see that here in our country and actually around the world! The vast amount of conflicts are race, culture or tribal in nature. The Lord is not saying this is good thing, He is just stating what is going to happen!

The second note is Kingdom vs Kingdom, is the geopolitical government or realms or dominions and can be the Kingdom of God verse Satan and his Kingdom and can also be sovereign governmental nations, China vs US, etc!
We are clearly here, seeing both of these, right now in ways like never before in our history and surely our life time. So, let's look at the next scripture (vs 9 -14), the next phase, and this is where we are heading to quickly if DJT loses this election! For it's not really DJT the Antichrist Global "beast" hate, (the elites, Masons or Illuminati's or whatever you want to call them) , It's really those self righteous, hypocritical moral, Christians that represent the moral foundations of family, freedom of choice with reasonable rules pf law and order to have civil society! One that is not based on race or any specific people group, that they the cabal or beast or Satan really hate.

They want division and choas and hatred and discord and they really don't care what causes it, race, or sex preference, nationalism, anything to divide and create hatred, suspicion and discord and war!

9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
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This is where we are heading, the question is WHEN!?

I truly believe that we are clearly in Isaiah 59 and that God has and desires to raise a standard against the enemies flood of wickedness and give us a season of peace and prosperity (Isaiah 60). However he clearly wanted the children of Israel to cross over and take the promise land as well (Numbers 13), AND THEY REFUSED TO BELIEVE AND OBEY and thus they died in the wilderness, feeling the wrath of God instead! We also see that even though Joshua and Caleb were obedient and believed God and did EVENTUALLY inherit their promise to enter, The received it only after 40 years of tromping around the desert with the disobedient and faithless ones!The point being the actions and decisions of people, and specifically God's people, does have a massive impact on what happens, regardless of the Lord's wants and desires to bless. We see Jesus COULD NOT do many miracles in his home town because of their unbelief! This had nothing to do with His ability to do miracles, even marveling at their unbelief! (Matt 13:58) Bottom line, it has everything to do with the truth, that we as a people have a vote in what does or does not happen to us concerning God and His desires to do good, to save us, to deliver us, and intervene. He simply will not force His grace, mercy or goodness upon us or anyone else!

We would do well to remember that Jesus himself in Matt 23 (just before this passage) had gone on an impassioned, pain filled rant against the Jews, HIs own people, because of their hard heart and corruption. Pronouncing 7 woes on them ending with this frustrated declaration and cry!

Matt 23:37-39

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, BUT YOU WERE NOT WILLING! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
NKJV

These were his last public words that He proclaimed and appropriately so, He said this in the same temple that He declared that there would "no stone left upon another" (which happened exactly as He said in 70 AD), immediately afterwards to His disciples (who were memorized with the physical beauty of the buildings) as He was leaving! In fact it was this impassioned statement that caused the disciples to approach and ask Him the above question, after He had cooled down and they were in a private place.

My point is, these are the proclamations and prophecies of Jesus Christ, they will and are happening.And If he allowed severe judgement to come on His own people because of their hardness of heart and rebellion. Why would we believe that He would not allow the same thing for us!? (Romans 9-11)

Persecution will happen for those of us who declare Jesus as Lord, The question is when? I belive we have an opportunity to gain a reprieve for a season. Will we take it? Will we God's people truly do 2 Chron, 7:14 and Daniel 9? Or will we seek to placate and appease, bowing to the pressures from the world and be silent seeking to be 'politically correct' in the name of peace!

As it did not work with Neville Chamberlain with Hitler, It will not work now. Yet the power to choose is in our hands. What are you going to do!
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Soooooo.does that mean he is returning?




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OPAG said:

This could be an extremely long post. I could post hundreds of biblical passages that foretell what is happening in our nation and actually around the world at this time. I will not do that. I am only going to use one passage from Matt 24.

Matt 24:3-14

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

4 And Jesus answered and said to them:
1.) "Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.

2,) 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

3.) 7 For nation -- (ethos- ethnic group, tribe or race based culture) will rise against nation -- (ethos- ethnic group, tribe or race based culture) , and kingdom -- (basileia = realm or government, king or prince -- could be both spiritual or secluar, root word is baselious a sovereign nation) , against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

What is interesting to note here is the word Nation is actually 'ethnos', this is race or culture. Race will rise up against race, tribe verse tribe. Well we sure see that here in our country and actually around the world! The vast amount of conflicts are race, culture or tribal in nature. The Lord is not saying this is good thing, He is just stating what is going to happen!

The second note is Kingdom vs Kingdom, is the geopolitical government or realms or dominions and can be the Kingdom of God verse Satan and his Kingdom and can also be sovereign governmental nations, China vs US, etc!
We are clearly here, seeing both of these, right now in ways like never before in our history and surely our life time. So, let's look at the next scripture (vs 9 -14), the next phase, and this is where we are heading to quickly if DJT loses this election! For it's not really DJT the Antichrist Global "beast" hate, (the elites, Masons or Illuminati's or whatever you want to call them) , It's really those self righteous, hypocritical moral, Christians that represent the moral foundations of family, freedom of choice with reasonable rules pf law and order to have civil society! One that is not based on race or any specific people group, that they the cabal or beast or Satan really hate.

They want division and choas and hatred and discord and they really don't care what causes it, race, or sex preference, nationalism, anything to divide and create hatred, suspicion and discord and war!

9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
NKJV
This is where we are heading, the question is WHEN!?

I truly believe that we are clearly in Isaiah 59 and that God has and desires to raise a standard against the enemies flood of wickedness and give us a season of peace and prosperity (Isaiah 60). However he clearly wanted the children of Israel to cross over and take the promise land as well (Numbers 13), AND THEY REFUSED TO BELIEVE AND OBEY and thus they died in the wilderness, feeling the wrath of God instead! We also see that even though Joshua and Caleb were obedient and believed God and did EVENTUALLY inherit their promise to enter, The received it only after 40 years of tromping around the desert with the disobedient and faithless ones!The point being the actions and decisions of people, and specifically God's people, does have a massive impact on what happens, regardless of the Lord's wants and desires to bless. We see Jesus COULD NOT do many miracles in his home town because of their unbelief! This had nothing to do with His ability to do miracles, even marveling at their unbelief! (Matt 13:58) Bottom line, it has everything to do with the truth, that we as a people have a vote in what does or does not happen to us concerning God and His desires to do good, to save us, to deliver us, and intervene. He simply will not force His grace, mercy or goodness upon us or anyone else!

We would do well to remember that Jesus himself in Matt 23 (just before this passage) had gone on an impassioned, pain filled rant against the Jews, HIs own people, because of their hard heart and corruption. Pronouncing 7 woes on them ending with this frustrated declaration and cry!

Matt 23:37-39

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, BUT YOU WERE NOT WILLING! 38 See! Your house is left to you desolate; 39 for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
NKJV

These were his last public words that He proclaimed and appropriately so, He said this in the same temple that He declared that there would "no stone left upon another" (which happened exactly as He said in 70 AD), immediately afterwards to His disciples (who were memorized with the physical beauty of the buildings) as He was leaving! In fact it was this impassioned statement that caused the disciples to approach and ask Him the above question, after He had cooled down and they were in a private place.

My point is, these are the proclamations and prophecies of Jesus Christ, they will and are happening.And If he allowed severe judgement to come on His own people because of their hardness of heart and rebellion. Why would we believe that He would not allow the same thing for us!? (Romans 9-11)

Persecution will happen for those of us who declare Jesus as Lord, The question is when? I belive we have an opportunity to gain a reprieve for a season. Will we take it? Will we God's people truly do 2 Chron, 7:14 and Daniel 9? Or will we seek to placate and appease, bowing to the pressures from the world and be silent seeking to be 'politically correct' in the name of peace!

As it did not work with Neville Chamberlain with Hitler, It will not work now. Yet the power to choose is in our hands. What are you going to do!



What complete bollocks
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TL;DR
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It is history repeating itself.
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I think there is honest justification for asking, " Is this the right board for this"
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Love your use of facts, historical context, and sources to refute this, as always.
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OverSeas AG
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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OP, c'mon man/woman/them. Really? Nations have been fighting against other nations since the beginning of ****ing time. This may come across as blasphemous to you but how can you be so narrow minded to think that what is in the Bible, that was written thousands of years before the discovery of North America and then chosen to be included in the Bible by a counsel of dudes looking to produce peace, in any shape form or fashion has anything to do with what is happening in North America today?

And yes, I'm a Christian but I have real issues with taking literal the so called words of fallen MEN that were supposedly divinely inspired.

The world has been a hell of a lot closer to ending MANY times in the past than it is right now.

And if you're right I will double poop slap with my mouth open.
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OP ain't wrong IMHO
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Yawn...

People have been drawing closer parallels between contemporary events and scripture pointing to the second coming of Christ for centuries.

I will poop slap if current events turn out to actually be signaling Jesus' return.
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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Spotted Ag said:

OP, c'mon man/woman/them. Really? Nations have been fighting against other nations since the beginning of ****ing time. This may come across as blasphemous to you but how can you be so narrow minded to think that what is in the Bible, that was written thousands of years before the discovery of North America and then chosen to be included in the Bible by a counsel of dudes looking to produce peace, in any shape form or fashion has anything to do with what is happening in North America today?

And yes, I'm a Christian but I have real issues with taking literal the so called words of fallen MEN that were supposedly divinely inspired.


OP is a q follower, which means he can take a bunch of information and apply it to things that don't apply and convince himself it's a prophecy.
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I'm shocked a Godless liberal thinks Bible verses are "bollocks"
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HarryBJatm33 said:

I'm shocked a Godless liberal thinks Bible verses are "bollocks"
As a liberal that has a church, I think his OP is nuts. It is just stupid
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Dr. Nefario said:

Yawn...

People have been drawing closer parallels between contemporary events and scripture pointing to the second coming of Christ for centuries.

I will poop slap if current events turn out to actually be signaling Jesus' return.



POOOOOOOOOP SLAPPPPP
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Tanya 93 said:

HarryBJatm33 said:

I'm shocked a Godless liberal thinks Bible verses are "bollocks"
As a liberal that has a church, I think his OP is nuts. It is just stupid
Calling people stupid gets me banned every time.
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mazag08 said:

Tanya 93 said:

HarryBJatm33 said:

I'm shocked a Godless liberal thinks Bible verses are "bollocks"
As a liberal that has a church, I think his OP is nuts. It is just stupid
Calling people stupid gets me banned every time.
I didn't call him stupid
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Or, you know, the sinful nature of man.... and fall from grace.... eternal damnation and separation from God....

Doesn't have to be prophesied. Humans will always be at war with another.


Quote:

Genesis 3

17
To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat from it,'
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return."
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At the very least this is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"We're racist!"

"No, we really aren't"

"Okay, come on everybody, let's attack the white people!!!"

Then people become racist.
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". . .and this is where we are heading to quickly if DJT loses this election!"

So, on November 4th after the election on November 3rd, if Trump loses, do I need to start going back to church? Or does the fact that I've been baptized in three different Protestant denominations have me covered for the end times? I'm a backslider. . .but

As Paul has stated, we are saved by God's grace through our faith (but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do godly work).

As the Baptist contend,"Once saved, always saved."

I know only God will make the ultimate decision, but in your wise opinion?

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I myself am not religious, but understand why people are and support anything that makes you happy or makes it easier to get through this life. I'm glad people get that peace. I wish I could, but my brain doesn't work that way.

That said... It seems pretty easy to interpret the bible to anything you would like it to. Maybe i'm wrong.
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Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess
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This is a joke of a post. You could go back in time to any decade and recite this drivel as proof that the world was nearing an end
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I'd just like to say that this is the same guy that was posting 5G corona virus theories as if they had any credibility.
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As I Christian I think the OP is stretching. There have been generations of Christians who think they are living in the times described in biblical prophesy. It also seems silly try to determine the end days.
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HossAg said:

I'd just like to say that this is the same guy that was posting 5G corona virus theories as if they had any credibility.


I don't think he's ever encountered a conspiracy theory he didn't believe.
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My interpretation is that we as mortals will not know when the time is.

The references in the OP can be interpreted in several ways. Only one is actually right. We have specifically not been given all the tools to fully determine which one is right until it is happening.

Bottom line: Is it possible? Yes. Ok so we agree its happening now? No.

Only God the father can confirm.

We are flawed and make mistakes. For my two cents we are better served serving His purpose to the best of our ability. In love. With boldness. Regardless if He is coming today, tomorrow, or next millennium.

It's hard to remember anxiety is for the wicked. Trust in Him.
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OP. Be careful with these predictions. They rarely work out. He'll come back when He comes back. Be prepared. Good news is I would honestly pretty jacked up if He chose to come right now. It's a heck of a lot better than the nonsense we're bombarded with daily.
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Ecclesiastes 1:9

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.
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You're missing the whole point of Jesus teachings.

There will be wars, famines, all of the things described and they ARE NOT associated with the end of times. Don't be like the world who is always looking for a sign that isn't there. The end of times will come like a thief in the night.
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