Catholics accusing pope of heresy

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Bulldog73
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https://thehill.com/policy/international/441558-catholic-conservatives-say-pope-francis-is-a-heretic-causing-one-of-the

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A coalition of conservative Catholic clergy and academics have accused Pope Francis of heresy, citing what they call overly liberal positions on topics like religious diversity, homosexuality and communion for divorced Catholics.


Seems like this bishop of Rome has embraced political correctness over Biblical adherence, at least in the view of these faithful. Wonder what our TexAgs Catholics have to say on the subject.

Redstone
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Waters here are very deep, including demonic influence in the priesthood since the early 20th Century, anti-papacy (there have been about 30 over 2,000 years), and prophecy (Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich and St. Malachy in particular, not to mention Our Lady at Fatima, Lourdes, and Akita).

Concerning demonic influence, I recommend videos of Father Ripperger, such as
and

Priestly formation has been very bad, with much willful subjugation of the human will. This is tied to the 3rd secret of Fatima, unrevealed - massive unfaithfulness in the hierarchy.
Seamaster
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Agree with the signatories of the letter.

Pope Francis, at the very least, is not a good teaching shepherd of the faithful. He loves being ambiguous and he clearly surrounds himself with really bad actors (McCarrick etc.)

He also punished the orthodox.

He's a bad Pope.

Redstone
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Bl. Emmerich has detailed her visions in transcription (she didn't write) over 7 heavy volumes, 2 of which are most relevant to the question here, and may be of interest (TAN publishing).
Point, again, is willful subjugation to the demonic. It's bad, but obviously Christ wins in the end.
Problem with St. Malachy prophecy (it's terrifying, FYI) is length of time between his life and their initial release.
Redstone
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Anti-papacy:
There have been about 30, including an extremely bad crisis about 1,000 years ago when St. Catherine of Siena was arguing with St. Vincent Ferrer (she was correct).

Remember, also, that St. Peter, as an ordained priest and as Pope, denied Christ thrice. In those moments, the Church (Sacraments protected by the Spirit) and the anti-Church existed in the same space. This can happen.

Ann Barnhardt argues we are in a time of papacy (Benedict) and anti-papacy (Francis).
Her argument in video:
Redstone
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Let us assume Francis is an anti-pope, demons are running rampant in the Curia (I definitely believe this one), and the physical destruction of Rome by earthquake will happen.

If so - this to me speaks to the truth and power of the Catholic faith, which is what

LOGOS relating to His creation by Sacrament.
Seamaster
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I'm not sure that he's an "anti-Pope."

He's the true Pope but maybe a heretic and at the very least a really bad shepherd of the faithful.

Seems more concerned with "climate change" and photo ops with celebrities than providing a clear and concise and orthodox defense of marriage, for example.
Redstone
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I'll lay my cards on the table:
Read the Vigano letters.
Read E. Michael Jones and Randy Engel and Richard Sipe and about Bella Dodd, and then those references from there :

We know the names.

These names are priests who cooperated with the demonic, very deliberately, and including at least one Black Mass in the Pauline Chapel in 1963.

This is our particular spiritual battle - personally, as always, and against a heavily compromised Curia (primarily, homosexuality).

Christ will win.
Redstone
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We dunno, but the arguments are not weak.

Redstone
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The Apostolic Church (Catholic / Orthodox) "thinks" in centuries, meaning that our current mess (how many priests truly fear God? Certainly not the "lavender mafia," which exists, and whose names we know) cannot be easily understood now.

It is a trial. We must fight.
God will write straight with these crooked lines, and he will use priestly evil to seek out demons for humiliations, exactly as Fr. Ripperger details.
Tramp96
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Let us know when a pope actually adheres to the Bible.

Sincerely,
Us Lutherans



It's. A joke. Relax.
Aggrad08
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So if this pope declares anything ex cathedra is it still infallible?
Win At Life
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Quote:

Waters here are very deep, including demonic influence in the priesthood since the early 20th Century, anti-papacy (there have been about 30 over 2,000 years), and prophecy (Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich and St. Malachy in particular, not to mention Our Lady at Fatima, Lourdes, and Akita).
Priestly formation has been very bad, with much willful subjugation of the human will. This is tied to the 3rd secret of Fatima, unrevealed - massive unfaithfulness in the hierarchy.
Bl. Emmerich has detailed her visions in transcription (she didn't write) over 7 heavy volumes, 2 of which are most relevant to the question here, and may be of interest (TAN publishing).
Point, again, is willful subjugation to the demonic. It's bad, but obviously Christ wins in the end.
Problem with St. Malachy prophecy (it's terrifying, FYI) is length of time between his life and their initial release.
There have been about 30, including an extremely bad crisis about 1,000 years ago when St. Catherine of Siena was arguing with St. Vincent Ferrer (she was correct).
Ann Barnhardt argues we are in a time of papacy (Benedict) and anti-papacy (Francis).
Let us assume Francis is an anti-pope, demons are running rampant in the Curia (I definitely believe this one), and the physical destruction of Rome by earthquake will happen.
LOGOS relating to His creation by Sacrament.
Read the Vigano letters.
Read E. Michael Jones and Randy Engel and Richard Sipe and about Bella Dodd, and then those references from there :
These names are priests who cooperated with the demonic, very deliberately, and including at least one Black Mass in the Pauline Chapel in 1963.

I'm not sure what is exactly going on here, but this seem like a shocking amount of people, places, writings, thoughts and code words without one scripture reference.
Redstone
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- Scripture is a product of the Apostolic Church, negotiated from the Council of Jerusalem through the end of the 3rd Century, frequently from Rome
- Logos is the Reason and Order of all creation, and His literal Word of God, Jesus Christ
- No reference above contradicts the Gospel in the slightest - in fact, there is affirmation, as demons exist, although they are slaves to Christ as we are...with the obvious major difference being that they exist in rebellion
jkag89
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Is the Pope a heretic? The danger of asking the wrong question
By Phil Lawler - Catholic Culture
Stros Schadenfreude
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Damn, I wish I could follow Redstone like on Twitter
FTACo88-FDT24dad
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I think it is a different question to ask if a pope is a heretic vs if a pope has said something heretical.
Seamaster
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"I'm not sure what is exactly going on here, but this seem like a shocking amount of people, places, writings, thoughts and code words without one scripture reference."

Great idea. Let's jettison all history and context and tradition and what the fathers passed to us and go with the Bible only, then we can be like every other church.

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