Near death / heaven hell experiences

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bmks270
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I heard a freaky death story today that I want to share because it is important.

My friend drives Uber sometimes and she told me about a passenger she had this week. It was a woman who sat in the back of her car and in the course of the drive the passenger began telling her about her sister who died recently. So the passenger began spilling her heart out and sobbing. Long story short a few months ago her sister was diagnosed with a terminal heart condition. After this her sister had a heart attack and EMTs and 3 days in the hospital were able to save her. Two weeks after this heart attack the sister has another heart attack, and the passenger is sobbing telling this to my friend from the back seat.

So she is watching the passenger in the mirror, since she sat in the back, and she begins to get a kinda scared fearful look in her eyes as she is sobbing telling her about how her sister died.

Here is what she told my friend: Her sister died in her arms with the EMTs there. But as she was dying from the heart attack she flat lined for a few moments but then she came back to briefly. When her sister came to she had a look a terror on her face and grasped her arms tightly and was struggling to speak and with her last dying breath she uttered:

"Don't let me die, I'm going... it's Hell."

And then she flat lined again and didn't come back.

And the passenger is sobbing this whole time telling my friend this story and says she is the first person she has told (it happened two months ago). She said she was scared for where her sister is now (referring to hell obviously) and basically hasn't been able to focus on anything else since.

My friend said the passenger was clearly disturbed by this experience and believes her sister saw hell before uttering her last words.

This makes the 3rd after life experience I have heard from trusted close friends or family. Of the other two I heard, both were given a message, one from an angel, and one from a wife who had died years earlier.
Human
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When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
vacating FL410
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Steve Jobs' last words: 'Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow'

Were these the words of someone who had a vision of beings greeting him as he died or just the last gasp of a dying brain? Jobs' had accepted Christ as a child and later rejected Him in his late teens.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/31/steve-jobs-last-words

http://www.christianitytoday.com/pastors/2012/winter/soulsteve.html
Sinvacation
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Classic FOAF format
Friend of a friend
bmks270
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Sinvacation said:

Classic FOAF format
Friend of a friend


Yeah, this my friends uber passenger. Other two accounts I have were directly from the person who experienced them to me. These experiences are real.
schmendeler
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I had a dream I could fly. I think that means human flight is real.
Martin Q. Blank
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Jesus flew after his resurrection.
schmendeler
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Martin Q. Blank said:

Jesus flew after his resurrection.
FOAF
Amazing Moves
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Human said:

When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
Unsubstantiated truth claims.
Amazing Moves
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I bet all 3 were Christians too.

If you actually research near-death experiences, you'll find many different outcomes. Like each main religion has NDE's that claim to see their version of deities, heaven and, hell. Some see nothing or, have no awareness. You can also mix in some pretty crazy stories. Elaborate stories are most likely lies. People who tell the truth are normally short and to the point with less info. You have quite a bit of religious propaganda also.

and then there is this...


http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/aware-results-finally-published-no-evidence-of-nde/

Fabrice Muamba died for 72 minutes. Nothingness. Still religious btw.

Sara Brautigam- Died 36 times in a year. Everything goes black.- Video included.

And..

A doctor's many false accounts of operating table NDE's as a manipulation to save the readers from Hell. He was a fundamentalist christian. Link

So who are we to believe with so many different accounts? It's funny how nearly all of these stories came out "after" the bestseller Life After Life by Raymond Moody flew off the shelves in the mid 70's. That created a market and a trend used countless times by debunked story tellers..
mesocosm
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Human said:

When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
I believe that you believe that. How do you distinguish that belief from wishful thinking?
Beer Baron
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Those accounts don't count.
Texaggie7nine
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DMT. Look it up people. It's pretty simple.
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Gomer95
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My Aunt was a strong Christian but was dying of cancer at a young age in her 40's and was near the end of her life and as my Dad was talking to her as she was sitting in a chair she said "I see Heaven". My Dad said "What did you say?" and she said "I see Heaven; I see Jesus" and then she died.

I've read of a few instances like that but that's the first time I have first hand knowledge of who was saying that and I totally believe she saw that too. That's what having Faith is all about and she is in Heaven right now and we would have thought that anyway, but it was cool to hear her say that.
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Gomer95 said:

My Aunt was a strong Christian but was dying of cancer at a young age in her 40's and was near the end of her life and as my Dad was talking to her as she was sitting in a chair she said "I see Heaven". My Dad said "What did you say?" and she said "I see Heaven; I see Jesus" and then she died.

I've read of a few instances like that but that's the first time I have first hand knowledge of who was saying that and I totally believe she saw that too. That's what having Faith is all about and she is in Heaven right now and we would have thought that anyway, but it was cool to hear her say that.

I think most would say that they probably believe she saw that. However, the point is that when Muslims die, they don't see Jesus. When Jews die, they don't see Jesus. The NDE curiously follows directly in line with the belief system that person was exposed to in their life.
schmendeler
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Macarthur said:

Gomer95 said:

My Aunt was a strong Christian but was dying of cancer at a young age in her 40's and was near the end of her life and as my Dad was talking to her as she was sitting in a chair she said "I see Heaven". My Dad said "What did you say?" and she said "I see Heaven; I see Jesus" and then she died.

I've read of a few instances like that but that's the first time I have first hand knowledge of who was saying that and I totally believe she saw that too. That's what having Faith is all about and she is in Heaven right now and we would have thought that anyway, but it was cool to hear her say that.

I think most would say that they probably believe she saw that. However, the point is that when Muslims die, they don't see Jesus. When Jews die, they don't see Jesus. The NDE curiously follows directly in line with the belief system that person was exposed to in their life.
well of course muslims and jews wouldn't see jesus! unless it was the bottom of his sandal on their foreheads as they got stomped down into hell!
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I think most would say that they probably believe she saw that. However, the point is that when Muslims die, they don't see Jesus. When Jews die, they don't see Jesus. The NDE curiously follows directly in line with the belief system that person was exposed to in their life.

This is what gets me. If one religion was correct, you'd expect to see people from the incorrect religions describing the bad afterlife instead of the "good" one they're expecting.
FlyFish95
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Amazing Moves said:

Human said:

When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
Unsubstantiated truth claims.
Unless you can provide unsubstantiated proof that life doesn't continue after death then you're both in the same boat.
FlyFish95
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I think most would say that they probably believe she saw that. However, the point is that when Muslims die, they don't see Jesus. When Jews die, they don't see Jesus. The NDE curiously follows directly in line with the belief system that person was exposed to in their life.

Spend a little time researching and you'll find out your point isn't valid. I'm not saying it's all true, but that point you must made was pulled directly from your rear end.
kurt vonnegut
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DryFly said:

Amazing Moves said:

Human said:

When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
Unsubstantiated truth claims.
Unless you can provide unsubstantiated proof that life doesn't continue after death then you're both in the same boat.

I imagine you meant to ask for substantiated proof that life doesn't continue. And I think that the same boat they would be in is one of uncertainty where the most honest position to take is one of agnosticism.
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DryFly said:

Quote:

I think most would say that they probably believe she saw that. However, the point is that when Muslims die, they don't see Jesus. When Jews die, they don't see Jesus. The NDE curiously follows directly in line with the belief system that person was exposed to in their life.

Spend a little time researching and you'll find out your point isn't valid. I'm not saying it's all true, but that point you must made was pulled directly from your rear end.

lol. So what is this hard hitting 'research' that I obviously haven't seen?
Amazing Moves
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DryFly said:

Amazing Moves said:

Human said:

When we die, our souls move on to eternity.
Hell is real. There are many accounts by doctors with stories of patients who had similar experiences on the operating table. It is as real as spending eternity with God and those you love.
Unsubstantiated truth claims.
Unless you can provide unsubstantiated proof that life doesn't continue after death then you're both in the same boat.
Agreed. However, I wasn't trying to prove that life doesn't exist after we die. So why make the point?
Guadaloop474
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An Army in Heaven

Hospice nurses hear, and see occasionally, these stories of the reality of the afterlife...
Duncan Idaho
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It might just be sloppy writing on your part or poor reading comprehension on my part but your post reads as if it changes from a second hand account to a first hand account.
Gomer95
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It might just be sloppy writing on your part or poor reading comprehension on my part but your post reads as if it changes from a second hand account to a first hand account.
I don't totally understand what you mean and so I reread my post. At the beginning yes I told a story but then the 2nd part was about my thoughts and opinions. When I said I (Gomer95) have first hand knowledge of knowing someone that happened to, I mean I knew my Aunt well and then I knew my Dad very well (duh) and he's the one who heard it. I wasn't there but that was my "first hand knowledge" because I trusted what my Dad would tell me. Is that what you were referring to? Or was it something else? So I don't know if that would be considering "sloppy writing" LOL but you may be correct that I went from a second hand account to a first hand opinion.
Amazing Moves
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Guadaloop474 said:

An Army in Heaven

Hospice nurses hear, and see occasionally, these stories of the reality of the afterlife...
I looked into the hospice thing a bit... Found a nurses forum that has a couple of threads dedicated to this. They have different opinions on their experiences. Some claim divine intervention for sure. A few claim its the brain. There are hellish stories from the obvious fundies. We even have the preachy ones including a hindu that confirms the demons who come to your bed side are very real (his faith's of course). There is a spiritualist who says she's seen 1000's die and not one was negative. We have a couple who have never seen anything. Also a guy who asked 3 of his flat-lined patients if they saw anything while the thread was active...No.

One thing I noticed is that they only mention a few nde stories for the most part. Rarely do they reference the others who died without incident. Still it's interesting to read the accounts. The different posters remind me of the R & P but, don't let that deter you.

allnurses - The short thread
allnurses.com - The longer one

Since we are getting so many views.. here's a skeptics forum thread that has their takes and experiences.

ISF

Speaking of DMT..

The God Helmet which stimulates parts of the brain creating symptoms described in nde's.



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