Comments on John 9:31 - God does not listen to sinners....

613 Views | 13 Replies | Last: 13 yr ago by Skubalon
Guadaloop474
How long do you want to ignore this user?
John 9:31: We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if any one is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.


Thoughts?
Worlds Foremost Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
That is a quote by the Pharisees. Throughout the NT, they are shown to be misguided.

[This message has been edited by Anwasa (edited 1/8/2012 10:38a).]
EVA3
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Actually the Pharisees don't answer until v. 34. The speaker here is the man born blind, whom Jesus healed. He is telling the Pharisees, "Look, I don't know who He is or how He did it. I don't care that He broke your precious legalistic Sabbath rules. I was blind. Now I can see. I think He is of God. How else can you explain it Mr. Pharisee?"

I'm no scholar and haven't looked this up, but there are similar passages throughout the NT where the word in the Greek connotes those practicing ongoing, habitual sin as opposed to those who have sinned/still sin (which obviously would include all of us). See, e.g., 1 John 3:9-10.
Go Aggies!
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
John 9:31: We know that God does not listen to sinners,


Perhaps the word "sinners" here refers to Unbelievers. God does not listen to Unbelievers, but he does hear the prayers of Believers??? What do you think?
jlb2957
How long do you want to ignore this user?
We are all sinners and are therefore not worthy to be in the presence of God the Father (as in prayer).

That is why we pray through Jesus, his son. At least I know protestants do. Our sins are relinquished through the blood of His Son, and it is through that atonement that we, as inherently sinful, can pray to the Father.

"In Jesus' name we pray" or some variant.
Mrs. Lovelight
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Here the verse in context read the whole thing then decide how to interpret that verse. Thad why don't you do your homework before posting this kind of stuff?!?!?!

quote:
John 9:1 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3 Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.” 6 Having said these things, he spit on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man's eyes with the mud 7 and said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which means Sent). So he went and washed and came back seeing.
8 The neighbors and those who had seen him before as a beggar were saying, “Is this not the man who used to sit and beg?” 9 Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the man.” 10 So they said to him, “Then how were your eyes opened?” 11 He answered, “The man called Jesus made mud and anointed my eyes and said to me, ‘Go to Siloam and wash.’ So I went and washed and received my sight.” 12 They said to him, “Where is he?” He said, “I do not know.”

13 They brought to the Pharisees the man who had formerly been blind. 14 Now it was a Sabbath day when Jesus made the mud and opened his eyes. 15 So the Pharisees again asked him how he had received his sight. And he said to them, “He put mud on my eyes, and I washed, and I see.” 16 Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” But others said, “How can a man who is a sinner do such signs?” And there was a division among them. 17 So they said again to the blind man, “What do you say about him, since he has opened your eyes?” He said, “He is a prophet.”

18 The Jews did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight, until they called the parents of the man who had received his sight 19 and asked them, “Is this your son, who you say was born blind? How then does he now see?” 20 His parents answered, “We know that this is our son and that he was born blind. 21 But how he now sees we do not know, nor do we know who opened his eyes. Ask him; he is of age. He will speak for himself.” 22 (His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had already agreed that if anyone should confess Jesus to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue.) 23 Therefore his parents said, “He is of age; ask him.”

24 So for the second time they called the man who had been blind and said to him, “Give glory to God. We know that this man is a sinner.” 25 He answered, “Whether he is a sinner I do not know. One thing I do know, that though I was blind, now I see.” 26 They said to him, “What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?” 27 He answered them, “I have told you already, and you would not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you also want to become his disciples?” 28 And they reviled him, saying, “You are his disciple, but we are disciples of Moses. 29 We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where he comes from.” 30 The man answered, “Why, this is an amazing thing! You do not know where he comes from, and yet he opened my eyes. 31 We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him. 32 Never since the world began has it been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a man born blind. 33 If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.” 34 They answered him, “You were born in utter sin, and would you teach us?” And they cast him out.

35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 He answered, “And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?” 37 Jesus said to him, “You have seen him, and it is he who is speaking to you.” 38 He said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him. 39 Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.” 40 Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?” 41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.
yesno
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Here the verse in context read the whole thing then decide how to interpret that verse. Thad why don't you do your homework before posting this kind of stuff?!?!?!
*****************
Homework might require original thinking instead of repeating Catholic stuff.
Daniel Kaffee
How long do you want to ignore this user?
So what exactly is "Catholic stuff"?
Guadaloop474
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I know the answer Mrs. Lovelight, and I have done more homework on scripture than you and your husband combined....You protestants are the ones who keep posting John 3:16 out of context over and over and over again....

[This message has been edited by Thaddeus73 (edited 1/10/2012 3:48p).]
gordo97
How long do you want to ignore this user?
and I have done more homework on scripture
*****************

anyone ever do some scripture homework after a few beers?
RingOfive
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
You protestants are the ones who keep posting John 3:16 out of context over and over and over again....

I would like to know what exactly you mean by this. How exactly should one interpret this passage?
watty
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
You protestants are the ones who keep posting John 3:16 out of context over and over and over again....


And what incorrect context is that?
mch4970
How long do you want to ignore this user?
from Notafriad

quote:
I know what is true, and yall are wrong on that one


from Thaddeus73

quote:
I know the answer Mrs. Lovelight, and I have done more homework on scripture than you and your husband combined


This is why I hang on every word everyone says here.
EVA3
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Someone's a little proud of himself.
Skubalon
How long do you want to ignore this user?
... and someone's a little full of skubala.
Refresh
Page 1 of 1
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.